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  • #42,021
  • Jun 14, 2017 2:56pm Jun 14, 2017 2:56pm
Quoting Daaimali1512
{quote} Hi... what do u think at current situation as everyone and most professional people said about news that usd is bullish... will u still wait for usd short or change ur decision about buying gold...
1254.xx is the key for the bulls holding things together within this current Bank Settlement Period, once that continue to hold, i am bullish gold, for now with FEDs in the news USD remain bullish for months now with expected rate increase, but i will not following that train. PA has remain over 1220.xx with this year MID holding, so far and it suggest to me that last year Highs is the target rather than it's lows. But for me as i have stated i trade expectation with Bank Settlement dates with my risk against the Fix for a 3 months period. So if i can see PA trading consistently with a break of 1220.xx then that suggest Technically and Fundamental the chart is align for full Bearish move. That is my input my friend.
  • #42,022
  • Jun 14, 2017 3:03pm Jun 14, 2017 3:03pm
Quoting IPMan
{quote} forget that you ignore him... maybe I would put him on the list too
But it usually shows her name if not her post. I guess it is new now that nothing shows at all. That's even better.
  • #42,023
  • Jun 14, 2017 3:04pm Jun 14, 2017 3:04pm
Quoting SunTrader
{quote} You are responding but obviously not agreeing with what I said - especially the part to each his own.
Yes i will leave everyone to there own method. I just don't like to see a colorful chart with so much indicator for they don't decide market direction and they will never do. But can be good profitable tools if you know how to follow them with RISK, But as you say to everyone there own.
  • #42,024
  • Jun 14, 2017 3:20pm Jun 14, 2017 3:20pm
Quoting Visionary
{quote} 1254.xx is the key for the bulls holding things together within this current Bank Settlement Period, once that continue to hold, i am bullish gold, for now with FEDs in the news USD remain bullish for months now with expected rate increase, but i will not following that train. PA has remain over 1220.xx with this year MID holding, so far and it suggest to me that last year Highs is the target rather than it's lows. But for me as i have stated i trade expectation with Bank Settlement dates with my risk against the Fix for a 3 months period....
So means! Gold is again short term bearish???
  • #42,025
  • Jun 14, 2017 3:22pm Jun 14, 2017 3:22pm
Quoting Visionary
{quote} 1254.xx is the key for the bulls holding things together within this current Bank Settlement Period, once that continue to hold, i am bullish gold, for now with FEDs in the news USD remain bullish for months now with expected rate increase, but i will not following that train. PA has remain over 1220.xx with this year MID holding, so far and it suggest to me that last year Highs is the target rather than it's lows. But for me as i have stated i trade expectation with Bank Settlement dates with my risk against the Fix for a 3 months period....
one more thing i am very confused regarding Gold's move i.e. all the major currencies moved for 50 to 80 pips but Gold moved 220pips... Can u tell me the reason if you know???
or it will retrace 80 to 100 pips back 8 to 10$???
  • #42,026
  • Jun 14, 2017 3:44pm Jun 14, 2017 3:44pm
Quoting nesta
H1 Over===>1270.5====>1291 Below==@1270====>1265====>1260====>1255 {image}
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  • #42,027
  • Jun 14, 2017 3:50pm Jun 14, 2017 3:50pm
Quoting james1254
{quote} It's too early for shorts, Gold could rally up to $1,280 - $1,290 again.
garbage

Quoting Visionary
{quote} Current market update. Short Term Bullish flip 1274.xx Mid Term Bullish flip 1271.xx Long Term Bullish flip 1255.xx The fix will remain Bullish going into FED with risk set at 1259.xx for this play moving my 1217.xx and 1218.xx longs stops to 1259.xx now. Already close my short cover at 1260.xx from 1280.xx. Will look to add another buy against 1259.xx risk
more garbage

Quoting IPMan
{quote} 1282.10 or more. {image}
complete garbage

Quoting SunTrader
{quote} You are responding but obviously not agreeing with what I said - especially the part to each his own.
useless


A spike up to suck you in and then a spike down to pull your pants down. GOLD is not for beginners
You came here for the truth and let me unveil it for you
  • #42,028
  • Jun 14, 2017 4:04pm Jun 14, 2017 4:04pm
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1264====>1255====>1245.xx
to get down below 1260/59 in order to test the 1254.50 support level.If this support is broken, then the 1250.70-1249 area will be the next stop.
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  • #42,029
  • Jun 14, 2017 4:44pm Jun 14, 2017 4:44pm
Quoting Visionary
{quote} Yes i will leave everyone to there own method. I just don't like to see ...
Try harder. You're replying with your 2 cents - again - while agreeing to leave everyone to themselves.
  • #42,030
  • Jun 14, 2017 7:00pm Jun 14, 2017 7:00pm
Quoting SunTrader
{quote} Try harder. You're replying with your 2 cents - again - while agreeing to leave everyone to themselves.
I don't need to try harder my friend, The market can be played in many ways when it come to using different tools, but to be successful at it depends only on Two things RISK and Directions. Direction can vary base on a individual preference and intended time in a trade, which is always base on RISK. But is that Direction? Market orders make up direction, market sentiments create such flow. So knowing where these order are and the flow of them will help to point to the intended direction. This is the reason why i point out the three current direction base on 3 month flow for this forum when i do a review.

Current Market Condition Base on Three Month Flow (Spoon Feed)

Short Term Bearish flip 1273.xx
Mid Term Bearish flip 1271.xx
Long Term Bullish flip 1255.xx

What do you do with this data? If you are Bullish your risk is against 1255.xx If you are Bearish your risk is against 1273.xx Why?

Don't pick top and Bottom, pick direction against your risk. Anything after that is about management of your trades, when to keep them and when to cover them or get out of them or base on your intended R:R
  • #42,031
  • Jun 14, 2017 7:08pm Jun 14, 2017 7:08pm
Quoting RondaRousey
{quote} garbage {quote} more garbage {quote} complete garbage {quote} useless A spike up to suck you in and then a spike down to pull your pants down. GOLD is not for beginners
Since it's not for beginners you should stop trading it. You obviously have nothing to contribute to a public forum. And your ego tell me such much. You are not a Trader and still is not mentally ready to be one.
  • #42,032
  • Jun 14, 2017 7:13pm Jun 14, 2017 7:13pm
Quoting Visionary
{quote} I don't need to ...
It's all about you huh.
  • #42,033
  • Jun 14, 2017 7:16pm Jun 14, 2017 7:16pm
Quoting Daaimali1512
{quote} one more thing i am very confused regarding Gold's move i.e. all the major currencies moved for 50 to 80 pips but Gold moved 220pips... Can u tell me the reason if you know??? or it will retrace 80 to 100 pips back 8 to 10$???
My friend RISK is your friend do that make sense? Highlight your risk before you trade determine your direction from that trade. Become market sentimental to your direction or find a tool that fits you.

Think about this carefully.
  • #42,034
  • Jun 14, 2017 7:21pm Jun 14, 2017 7:21pm
Quoting SunTrader
{quote} It's all about you huh.
Maybe we are not fully understanding each other. Why you think it is all about me?
  • #42,035
  • Jun 14, 2017 8:02pm Jun 14, 2017 8:02pm
Quoting Visionary
{quote} Maybe we are not fully understanding each other. Why you think it is all about me?
You responded twice agreeing to each their own while each time criticizing. Which is it? You have made it plain you don't believe in to each their own. Lastly you responded unsolicited by anyone, especially me, with your latest analysis.

Each of us can decide for ourselves what is valuable and what isn't. Period.
  • #42,036
  • Jun 14, 2017 8:02pm Jun 14, 2017 8:02pm
Quoting Visionary
{quote} Since it's not for beginners you should stop trading it. You obviously have nothing to contribute to a public forum. And your ego tell me such much. You are not a Trader and still is not mentally ready to be one.
Hi Visionary. What advice (generally) can you give beginners? Become a wave guru? A FIB master? Study this that ?
Cheers
  • #42,037
  • Jun 14, 2017 8:35pm Jun 14, 2017 8:35pm
Quoting SunTrader
{quote} You responded twice agreeing to each their own while each time criticizing. Which is it? You have made it plain you don't believe in to each their own. Lastly you responded unsolicited by anyone, especially me, with your latest analysis. Each of us can decide for ourselves what is valuable and what isn't. Period.
This is so funny, just a matter of misunderstand. It all started with me commenting on IPMan chart, which he reacted out of defence. I was not insulting him, just reminding of his decision what he made couple months ago when i was more active on this forum. He had decided to remove indicators from his chart and stick to just his wave analysis. So when i saw he posted a chart with so much indicators, i was just saying his chart was getting colorful again as a hint not to go back there. Not criticizing, but just a reminder to keep him in check on his previous decision to remove them. You reply to everyone his own. So i back off and said no problem, which is true to everyone his own. And at the same time stated my position.

This is a public forum and i am wrong to try to solicit someone else view as inferior to mine, but i do have the same rights to share my experience and view as well. I had couple both post in the conversation and it came off wrongly to you. Please forgive if it had offended you in anyway. I was just trying to save on time rather than posting twice. You and others are entitle to your own learning curve, views and analysis. So i can see why the post seem over insulting, but it was just a matter of misunderstand.
  • #42,038
  • Jun 14, 2017 8:38pm Jun 14, 2017 8:38pm
Quoting ajacid
{quote} Hi Visionary. What advice (generally) can you give beginners? Become a wave guru? A FIB master? Study this that ? Cheers
My first advice to anyone who want to become trader is understand RISK. I have undertake to communicate with two prospective person who desire to become a traders from this forum since i have join and without calling names that as been my advice to them and without a shadow of doubt i know they can vow for me that it has turn their trading around.
  • #42,039
  • Edited 9:13pm Jun 14, 2017 8:54pm | Edited 9:13pm
Quoting Visionary
{quote} I don't need to try harder my friend, The market can be played in many ways when it come to using different tools, but to be successful at it depends only on Two things RISK and Directions. Direction can vary base on a individual preference and intended time in a trade, which is always base on RISK. But is that Direction? Market orders make up direction, market sentiments create such flow. So knowing where these order are and the flow of them will help to point to the intended direction. This is the reason why i point out the three current...
Hello brother, I now know more clearly your analysis than ever before. However can you please explain how you define a bearish / bullish flip level as the maximum RISK ?
I only trade XAU/USD. Based on USD news & Fib SR & BB20
  • #42,040
  • Edited 10:57pm Jun 14, 2017 9:05pm | Edited 10:57pm
Quoting IPMan
{quote} Let me make this clear for you, those indicators are still part of wave analysis and not for trade. Wave analysis are tough without some proper guides and I use those indis for that purpose. That's why SunTrader tells you "To each on their own".
I hear you and i could try to tell you that you are wrong as well, with those indicator being apart of wave analyst, for you might interpret me as trying to insult you. But using a tool in a none tradition way is not wrong as long as it compliment your trading style.

You don't need to state you need to be clear to me or defensive, i fully understand. I was thinking i was helping to tell you not to use so much indicators, which i was wrong. It's important that everyone fine their own way.
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