"AUSSI" my thread and anything I want to put here

the missie says its blocking up the vacuum cleaner mate

Life Aint meant to be easy mate

I have made a start to the day but need to go out for a couple of hours Aussi so will attack to-night

jr , Ive been told thats why alcohol was invented , also been told its never noticeable if one never stops drinking , , A Mr Ced pop quiz

jr ,oyy if ya done your "normal little bit of litigating ,and left a gumpy , well grins and chuckles abound , just as "under some sh-t " took hold and that final straw on the camels back done its job ,eeech probably not just the week end altho not often , but when those come along they have been peeked at , I waited till after rollover tho ,

jr , sure if it was the qst one ya ever took ya knew what was in the process of failure , right ?Not that it would be strange or anything new . Your stoch tool a bit different than mine , but the old J hook , (aka named after Jp1 association )
which leads to gumpy targets bout right there

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I would give up drinking for that Vision Digger or perhaps drink more and she may appear in my Dreams

[quote=Ced74;14345629] jr , ha , too funny Mr Ced , I have gotton advice on that matter too , but from the test it is obvious , you not drinking enough , the other advice was show me a woman like that and Ill show you the guy tired of dealing with it , (sure that works both ways ) and the other was any amount of time involved , whats the point of chamging , the only change that will be made is trading one set of problems for another set , so whats the point , get the blank over it work thru and get on with it, and above all , no one made anyone crazy , it was just ignored when things 1st started , and whn it becomes a issue , welp back to why alcohol was invented , the line was drawn tho at attempted murder

Gold is dead so lets hope Frankfurt brings more action

jr , it has been a bit listless for sure , boys just gearing up for quarter end , should perk up a bit fore long
gearing up for a little love tap , the line that caused Mr S dislike for valintines day

I've been thinking about this the last several weeks and decided to write it down to get it out of my brain. I hope it's entertaining, but also helpful.

The Loneliness of Trading

I think trading is one of the loneliest things to try to do. There's no mom or dad or guru or friend to do it with. Not that people aren't around. My office is in the loft and my wife is typically home with me, but it's still lonely for me as a trader. I mentored someone in the office last year from 2:30am to 11am, five days a week for four months and it was still lonely. (Don't ask, nope, not doing that again.) We can go on a trading forum and "interact" with other traders. There's a lot of that going on. Millions of wanna-be traders and a few successful traders are in forums like this one, in trading rooms, on discord, in prop firm rooms, guru rooms, mentoring rooms, etc, but there's still that trader loneliness. I think loneliness in trading may be that last hurdle causing a lot of people to not make it as a trader.

Trader loneliness is an emotional part of trading that's beyond mental.

Why is this? I don't know all the answers on this one. We all start out running from strategy to strategy and "guru" to "guru" thinking this one didn't work for the week I tried it, but the next one will. This goes on for a while. It was fourteen years of this for me and then there's the "fourteen year sudden" realization that nothing anyone else is doing works...for me. It seems to work great for the guru. Why doesn't it work great for me? During this step in a trader's progress one starts to understand that each of us have things that we can see on a chart or that we can grasp about fundamentals and there are things our minds will never grasp no matter how many times a guy name Ray says, "It's simple" (insert Scottish accent here - love you Ray!). Things on a guru's chart are typically historical after the fact trades that make indicators look like they work great and make you think trading this system is easy, but then we look at a live chart and the brain just freezes and looks at that dark lonely right side of the chart called THE FUTURE and wants to take that leap and suddenly that same brain screams, "NO ONE WILL BE WITH ME INTO THAT UNKNOWN!".

No one does things how I do them, no one sees things how I see them. Therefore no one can do it for me, NO ONE CAN BE IN MY BRAIN DOING THIS ACT that is risky, dangerous, mystifying and so unknown...jumping off the last candle cliff into the right side of the chart. This truly IS the definition of trader loneliness to me. No one gets it. No one can get it. It's just me against the future, that next millisecond!

That realization that NO ONE IS ABLE TO BABYSIT MY BRAIN AND PUSH THE BUTTON FROM IN THERE FOR OR WITH ME is at the same time terrifying and freeing.

It's lonely as a trader. There's nothing you can do to change this. Being in this forum or room won't change it. Having a "guru" won't change it. Having another trader with you won't change it. Your wife being around won't change it. Being alone in a room won't change it (lol).

The closest you can get to making it better is taking everything you yourself can "see", can understand and putting it all on a chart. Trade that stuff on your chart for months. Figure out what doesn't help you. Figure out how to simplify it. Figure out what you're missing and find it and then, again, trade what you can "see" for months until you have your own rendition, your own system, your own written rules of what will help you take that leap off that last candle cliff into the right side of the chart. That truly is the nearest a trader can get to shedding some light on their loneliness of trading into that next millisecond called the future.

jr , boys trying to take another poke at er , almost got the "halfway there mark cleared again
wouldnt quite be the "line" but in the neighborhood, bit of a "flaggy thing " off last quarters low there,(probably should include the L in that word )
pretty much a normal state of mind for the time , they live they die , dont give a sh=t , for grins and chuckles , Ive been payed ,

Feeling Shame

My lowest point in trading was when I didn't follow the rules of an ea. I had made over $20k the first day using it and I went against the rules and lost the $20,000 plus $140,000...real $. It's on my tax return for 2009. My wife and I had to dip into our home equity line. I mention my wife because she was sitting there with me when this happened...somebody was being a little too cocky.

The second lowest point was believing someone, who I still consider a friend to this day, who told me that I could trust the guy he referred me to on investing in a start up that was using this guy's trading system. Lost $250,000...real $, it's also on my tax returns. I don't know if his trading system worked or not...the money disappeared before we got to that point. Another time we had to dip into the home equity line. (We soon closed the home equity line because we determined it was a danger to our future financial well-being.)

The biggest thing I've been forced to learn is to NEVER let a loss become shame. Stay with me while I explain this.

This realization of what shame did to me was probably my biggest leap in maturity as a person, as a husband, as a father, as a business owner and as a trader...and, not so surprisingly, I'm so stubborn and dense that I only figured this out a few years ago.

When I had losses, not just in trading, but in life/business, I would get so upset about it, so embarrassed (even though no one else even knew I was embarrassed), and then I would get angry which led to feeling ashamed of myself and getting stuck in that mode. Feeling upset is fine for a little while and being embarrassed about it when you're the only one who knows you feel embarrassed is just stupid, but allowing a loss to make you feel ashamed is VERY damaging.

Feeling ashamed shows in your face and controls your actions. It destroys your ability to bounce back. It destroys people around you. It destroys your ability to think straight and makes it difficult to let go of the loss and move on to the next "one good trade" or decision you need to make. It slows your progress and growth. It's debilitating to the point of mental paralysis. It disqualifies you from being a great trader.

NEVER allow a loss to make you feel ashamed.

It took me a long time in life to get to this place.

Now, when I have a loss, I remind myself of a saying I heard: "Don't be angry at or about the game. Just be happy you got to play."

When I heard that the first time and every time I say it to myself, it's like a light switch in my brain that releases the loss and allows me to move on quickly.

well put mate , when i was teaching it did come to light after a while it was not going to work because they could not se what i saw on a chart , nobody i taught was able to acheive it but some did go on to find there own way and make dollars others gave up because greed ran there heads , god bless mate

jr , a its just a job attitude maybe , its just the same sh=t over and over , can see tho where if one tried to go with the circus sh=t , unlearning that crap would be quite a process , from the 1st time one ever looked at a chart that is all that got shoved down their throat , I didnt have to go thru that process, take the circus crap out and see it for it it should be to one , just the means , thats it, means absolutly blank all round here besides that , just the means

The closest you can get to making it better is taking everything you yourself can "see", can understand and putting it all on a chart. Trade that stuff on your chart for months. Figure out what doesn't help you. Figure out how to simplify it. Figure out what you're missing and find it and then, again, trade what you can "see" for months until you have your own rendition, your own system, your own written rules of what will help you take that leap off that last candle cliff into the right side of the chart. That truly is the nearest a trader can get to shedding some light on their loneliness of trading into that next millisecond called the futu

Well written

Boredom is my problem so I keep making new templates and testing them which can take many hours/days/weeks with some.

One needs to find their own way.

R

jr , any way , wish all good collecting , and a great week end , supposed to be weather coming , blank radar aint showing much , close anyway yet , but aint a gonna wait , storm warning and sh-t , the big boys are here , trucks loaded , week end road trip starts now , have fun all

even then Jr most can let go its like a noose around they neck every time you showed them live trades following a indie they still went back to the hard slog , i used to come home and say i thing he got it a few days later i went back and looked at his chart and fukme he was onto a different indie and a ea , i said to him good luck mate , never saw him again and thats just one

jr , oooy after the oold man thumped my noggin on the stait and narrow I would look at some different things , if he seen it it was always mentioned , ah climbing in the stupid tree ayyy , the blank a matter with you boy , you got shown , it aint gonna change ,