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  • Jun 26, 2020 12:43am Jun 26, 2020 12:43am
  •  MoneyZilla
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{quote} Wow!! it's so much harder than i thought before Thanks anyway MZ!
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50/50 is only at one of the prices. We used the bid one. Spread is not taken into a consideration. It reality is probably below 40/60. Due to spread a sl can come at the 48th pips, which is exactly the 50th pip on the other price. A tp comes at the 52nd pip on the other price, too. Now we are not talking 50/50 anymore...
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  • Jun 26, 2020 4:32am Jun 26, 2020 4:32am
  •  MoneyZilla
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Think of 10/10 now?
it is 8sl and 12tp in reality, if the measurements take place at one of the prices only? That is 50% divination already? It is not 10/10 anymore. It is tp12/sl8 and that is more close to 25%/75%, my guess is.
It is no coincidence the brokers have this message the 65% are losers, or 70% are the losers, ext?
The puzzle is getting finished...

If, at any given moment, winners vs losers is around 1/3 (33%/67%)? What this means?

My 17y son gave the answer in less than 15 seconds...
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  • Jun 26, 2020 4:59am Jun 26, 2020 4:59am
  •  mav3n
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Think of 10/10 now? it is 8sl and 12tp in reality, if the measurements take place at one of the prices only? That is 50% divination already? It is not 10/10 anymore. It is tp12/sl8 and that is more close to 25%/75%, my guess is. It is no coincidence the brokers have this message the 65% are losers, or 70% are the losers, ext? The puzzle is getting finished... If, at any given moment, winners vs losers is around 1/3 (33%/67%)? What this means? My 17y son gave the answer in less than 15 seconds......
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What is the answer? Stop trading all together?
I am really cannot think about anything after imagining how hard it is
 
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  • Jun 26, 2020 5:12am Jun 26, 2020 5:12am
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{quote} What is the answer? Stop trading all together? I am really cannot think about anything after imagining how hard it is
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The answer is, we, the retail traders are all losers. There are solid exemptions. 1 out of every 2000-3000 retail traders makes money and is able to spend more time in the winning 30% side and significantly less time in the losing 70% side.

It also means, the game is not 50/50, as advertised. It is 30/70...
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  •  farukh
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Sell @1765-1768 or @1773-1775 or if h1 closes below 1753. Manage your stop losses following risk management and money management.

https://youtu.be/y76i580n76o
 
 
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Sell @1765-1768 or @1773-1775 or if h1 closes below 1753. Manage your stop losses following risk management and money management. https://youtu.be/y76i580n76o
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Thanks. I have sold the house to follow your advice, All in.
 
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{quote} Thanks. I have sold the house to follow your advice, All in.
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wait for the 2nd option:
or @1773-1775
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{quote} Thanks. I have sold the house to follow your advice, All in.
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If you heard the video, I also mentioned firth TP target which was neckline of inverse HnS i.e. 1444-1448 area and price hit the first target on Friday then bounced back. Many of my fellow traders on other threads banked their profit and some of them banked partial profit and put sl to breakeven as per their trading style.
First session on Monday would give new findings.
If you are an experienced trader you must already know or if you are new in this business then I must tell you that this is a market no body can tell exactly where it goes. We keep looking and follow the high probability.
 
 
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Quoting MoneyZilla
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Think of 10/10 now? it is 8sl and 12tp in reality, if the measurements take place at one of the prices only? That is 50% divination already? It is not 10/10 anymore. It is tp12/sl8 and that is more close to 25%/75%, my guess is. It is no coincidence the brokers have this message the 65% are losers, or 70% are the losers, ext? The puzzle is getting finished... If, at any given moment, winners vs losers is around 1/3 (33%/67%)? What this means? My 17y son gave the answer in less than 15 seconds......
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17y? Is he learning the ways of the hobby trader?

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The choppy pips are usually (not a rule, just usually or more often) equal to the stretched in the following movement, naturally.
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The only way around I see to flow with that equilibrium is increasing exposure...
It's like they force us to pay to see their bluffs (like in poker). But they keep raising their bets (aka Fake signals) until we have no money to keep paying to see.

When you close a batch at a desired profit, do you reset the signals sequence? (Like the button in the trendline indicator) ?

Well, about the sequence of losses ... YES!
I've been testing it around and... well... let's say usually we have very distributed streaks of winners. For example: 1 loss, 2 wins. 2 loss, 3 wins.
Then suddenly comes a hard sequence of losses. And the comeback is always slower.

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Missing something on the movement is easier to handle, when not much hits were taken while the massacre is ends.
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Seems easy. But it's definitely not.
 
 
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{quote} 17y? Is he learning the ways of the hobby trader?
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As of now - no. But his nickname, from quite sometime, in the family, is called Charty. Might be just a coincidence...

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The only way around I see to flow with that equilibrium is increasing exposure... It's like they force us to pay to see their bluffs (like in poker). But they keep raising their bets (aka Fake signals) until we have no money to keep paying to see.

Fantastic example! And yes, at the end it is exactly like that! Brilliant !🦾

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When you close a batch at a desired profit, do you reset the signals sequence? (Like the button in the trendline indicator) ?

I don’t. My dev guy asked that question and I have picked closure not to reset anything with the signals. But this does not mean I have chosen the best way? Maybe resetting the counters alongside with the closure of a batch is the better solution? Let me know, if you find something in that way of syncing it? Very good question, btw!

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Well, about the sequence of losses ... YES! I've been testing it around and... well... let's say usually we have very distributed streaks of winners. For example: 1 loss, 2 wins. 2 loss, 3 wins. Then suddenly comes a hard sequence of losses. And the comeback is always slower.

It is good I am not the only person here who shares details on that topic...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
 
 
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  • Jun 28, 2020 4:10pm Jun 28, 2020 4:10pm
  •  Offujimori
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{quote} As of now - no. But his nickname, from quite sometime, in the family, is called Charty. Might be just a coincidence...
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HAHAHA NO WAY... I MEAN... IF IT CAME NATURALLY, THAT'S SO MUCH COINCIDENCE

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It is good I am not the only person here who shares details on that topic...

I actually would like to share more in a hope someone come with something that might help me... like an idea or question just to trigger a catharsis ... maybe?
But I don't know where is the border to stop, so I remain quiet. Considering that much I've learned with your posts/infos, maybe It would be not fair to you and your effort to share more here...!

I'll keep you informed about my ultra turtle steps. !
 
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  • Jun 28, 2020 4:13pm Jun 28, 2020 4:13pm
  •  MoneyZilla
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Seems easy. But it's definitely not.
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A set of a tl is Level 1 trading. Cannot be anything else. My last final check on their time sequence, which is not always synced with the last direction taken, unfortunately, is using a tl or another indicator delivering 99% similar output as the tls. Their all fake tricks are gone...

Entering the massacre zone, is not so dangerous, if one can dance around and change positions every few hours or around.

If you find ways, to build up signals? Not too many and not too little? You might skip most of hard to get knowledge and still be as profitable as hell? This is very serious. The final signals gotta be with at least 50% quality. And not many per day. This is the key. Not too many and not too little.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
 
 
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  • Jun 28, 2020 4:15pm Jun 28, 2020 4:15pm
  •  Offujimori
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{quote} If you find ways, to build up signals? Not too many and not too little? You might skip most of hard to get knowledge and still be as profitable as hell? This is very serious. The final signals gotta be with at least 50% quality. And not many per day. This is the key. Not too many and not too little.
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Hum.. that's a very valuable info. I think I'am not advancing because I'm trying to find a better rough diamond instead of working with what I have in hands and try to polish it...

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"A set of a tl is Level 1 trading"

Oh okay. This is Lv 1. !
Till today I'm kind lost of what are the concepts of levels that you usually say!
 
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  • Jun 28, 2020 4:22pm Jun 28, 2020 4:22pm
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Considering that much I've learned with your posts/infos, maybe It would be not fair to you and your effort to share more here...! I'll keep you informed about my ultra turtle steps. !
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Yep, even his mother is calling him like that. She hates forex as she is already happy with all we have and no need for more money. Especially in the quantities I want them... It did came all naturally. Anyways.

Better email me with your progress. If you come up to something good, no need to show it to the world. Will be happy for you, as you made it by yourself. Entirely. This is very important: DIY. Do It Yourself.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
 
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  • Jun 28, 2020 4:30pm Jun 28, 2020 4:30pm
  •  MoneyZilla
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Here is a good clue. Systems that provide sequences of every second signal are no better than a tl set... or maybe even worse in some situations?

Here is and example. Buy-sell-buy-sell-ext.

Good systems are those who offer imbalanced signals like: buy-buy-buy-sell-buy-sel-buy-buy-sel-sell-buy-sell-sell-sell-ext.

These imbalanced L1 are the diamond you need to polish...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
 
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  • Jun 28, 2020 4:36pm Jun 28, 2020 4:36pm
  •  MoneyZilla
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There is a difference in between the signals and the dominance we are simultaneously discussing here.

Both are doing better when their base is an imbalanced L1 system.

Every second (flip) is hard on providing good filtering, as you cannot get out of the L1 sequence. Staying around, not taking in the action in the middle is important and if you cant do it, you can still dance around and they will have problems to square you...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
 
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  • Jun 28, 2020 4:40pm Jun 28, 2020 4:40pm
  •  MoneyZilla
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Just think of how big cats hunt?

Any predator actually?

If the prey does not zig zag? hahaha Imagine that?

And there are escapes like this one:
https://twitter.com/super70ssports/s...165512706?s=21
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  •  Offujimori
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Here is a good clue. Systems that provide sequences of every second signal are no better than a tl set... or maybe even worse in some situations? Here is and example. Buy-sell-buy-sell-ext. Good systems are those who offer imbalanced signals like: buy-buy-buy-sell-buy-sel-buy-buy-sel-sell-buy-sell-sell-sell-ext. These imbalanced L1 are the diamond you need to polish...
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Damn... can you believe I had that kind on imbalanced L1 signals, but then I've changed it to generate only second signal mode? (buy-sell-buy-sell)...
That's a hell of a clue!
I remmember a post that you were suggesting an offset filter to some guys talking about SMA crosses... You said that usually buy movements will only trigger buy trades when offset by pips. Now I guess It makes sense if I can take something like that to generate signal...

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Both are doing better when their base is an imbalanced L1 system.
Well this L1 system I'm pretty sure I have. I have to erase some modifications I did and re-study it...!

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Better email me with your progress. If you come up to something good, no need to show it to the world. Will be happy for you, as you made it by yourself. Entirely. This is very important: DIY. Do It Yourself.

I will! It's the minimum I can do in retribution! (Maybe I don't know how to put that in english... but I think you got it!)
Thank you for all. Hope I can share something soon. - turtle mode
 
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  •  DemandSupply
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Hi MoneyZilla,

"""""""Good systems are those who offer imbalanced signals like: buy-buy-buy-sell-buy-sel-buy-buy-sel-sell-buy-sell-sell-sell-ext.

These imbalanced L1 are the diamond you need to polish.."""""

I always understood this is the ONLY way to be profitable. And after reading your thread and the clues you provided through PMs and all the posts in this thread about the above method confirms and reaffirms that this is the only way to be profitable even though many people would start at various starting points but the end FINAL destination would be the same (CONSIDERABLE BIG PROFITS AND ONLY PROFITS with small losses, WHICH WILL BE OFFSET BY THE PROFITS GAINED)

The problem that I face is where should be starting point be and any starting point I chose on the chart, I ended up with a disadvantage and that itself works against the basis of the imbalanced signals as you term it.

I have infact started to demo with various pairs and Gold to see if there is any difference. But I am sure and infact know, that irrespective of the currency pair, gold or stocks or anything else, infact any trading chart ( the imbalance is level l1 ) is just the same and therefore does not make any difference.

Awaiting for your comments and suggestions to overcome the starting point disadvantage.

Regards
 
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  • Jun 29, 2020 6:07am Jun 29, 2020 6:07am
  •  DemandSupply
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Just think of how big cats hunt? Any predator actually? If the prey does not zig zag? hahaha Imagine that? And there are escapes like this one: https://twitter.com/super70ssports/s...165512706?s=21
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That one seems too good to be true....... like the Fakey


Regards
 
 
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