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  • #1
  • First Post: Edited Jun 11, 2020 1:08am Jul 10, 2019 5:08pm | Edited Jun 11, 2020 1:08am
Trading is as similar as nailing an enthusiastic woman or women...
If one cannot hold it?
Capish?
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #2
  • Jul 11, 2019 1:15am Jul 11, 2019 1:15am
Lets start from somewhere. This is for those who like to make few cents on sells versus few buy dollars in an uptrend.
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Gold had accumulated heavy buy pressure during the last 5-6 hours. Not visible on the chart though. Looks more like a small range. But this is the zone where the direction gets decided.
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Today, the time spent on sell dominance is just minutes, compared to the time spent on buy dominance (over 5 hours so far). Time seems to matter a lot.
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Try to enter with low buy(s) for the day. Lowest lows would be ideal. It seems 1435/7 will be penetrated. When? I dont know. It is a buy trend and it should not take long.

edit: Enter with very small lots. The idea is to build up a buy basket. 1-2 trades a day max. Lower buys will make the eventual draw-down smaller. Since we are in an uptrend, the draw-down wont last long.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #3
  • Jul 11, 2019 10:08am Jul 11, 2019 10:08am
Do you do this trading via ETFs? Such as IAU, GLD, or UGLD?

I heard about them in another thread and it interested me.
If you have faith in our leaders of commerce, don't buy gold.
  • #4
  • Jul 11, 2019 10:33am Jul 11, 2019 10:33am
No, that is just mt4 chart data from a retail broker mt4 feed.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #5
  • Jul 11, 2019 10:51am Jul 11, 2019 10:51am
Quoting MoneyZilla
...I share nothing here. Strategies. Indicators. EAs. Don't even ask. My goal is to help you, to hold your Trend trades.
Accepted...how about definitions? Can you define "a trend"? Please don't give the tired old explanation...higher highs...higher lows...etc. Those are all retrospective and have very little if any use on the right hand edge of the chart.

I ask this because I gave up "trend trading" years ago simply because by the time a "trend" (by definition) is found its already too late. My question is simple. Can you detect a "new trend" either as it is forming or just slightly after, so as to take full advantage of the "trend move"?
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  • #6
  • Jul 11, 2019 10:57am Jul 11, 2019 10:57am
Today we had a TIME flip from a buy at 1398.60 to a sell at 1418.72. +200 pips for the buy vs... lets see how many pips the time flip will give to the sell?
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Time is the second most important factor. It comes immediately after the buy/sell pair’s balance. There are no more factors beyond those two.

Believe it or not, but the buy dominance was announced at the 2nd half of 4 July. Despite of the time sell, today is still dominated by the buys... 5+ biz days in a row of a total buy dominance.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #7
  • Jul 11, 2019 11:21am Jul 11, 2019 11:21am
Quoting DonPato
Can you define "a trend"?
Here are 3 basic examples, among over nearly probably hundred ways, I can think of, of detecting the annual trend. Not really keen on sharing them. They are no secret. Not at all. Everyone can find them. But it takes hard work to spot them. Plus, they are very expensive, money-wise. Everything in trading is expensive. Lesson=mistake=money lost. I hope you understand.

That I can afford to share.
1. Horizontal (or not) white line. One is more than enough. Above it / Below it? Clear.
2. Blue (Buy) and Orange (Sell) reclined trend lines. Same as above.
3. W1 candles. 10 sells vs 17 buys (now). In May’19 there used to be 10 Sells vs 10 Buys before the 2019 trend. This one is a little bit more complicated, but it is crystal clear, still. The rate cant do buy trend while making sell weekly candles, can it? I do not even have to prove that statement...

One can use just one out of those three, two or three all together?
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Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #8
  • Jul 11, 2019 11:55am Jul 11, 2019 11:55am
Hi moneyzilla..... i like your thread
  • #9
  • Jul 11, 2019 12:37pm Jul 11, 2019 12:37pm
Quoting peace1234
Hi moneyzilla..... i like your thread
The thing is, all strategies do work. But traders were brainwashed with some stupid RR ratios. This is ridiculous. And they fail. Always. And it does make sense to fail. They have been chopped by the up to 50/60 pips SL chopping machine. Nothing can survive it, in a long run.

But when they hold it?
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #10
  • Jul 11, 2019 1:58pm Jul 11, 2019 1:58pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} The thing is, all strategies do work. But traders were brainwashed with some stupid RR ratios. This is ridiculous. And they fail. Always. And it does make sense to fail. They have been chopped by the up to 50/60 pips SL chopping machine. Nothing can survive it, in a long run. But when they hold it?
Man, I replied to this last quote of yours, but they are all very good or at least funny I have a strong feeling for people I believe... and I sense that you are a very funny guy although you try as f... to be serious I think you know what you I'm talking about

However I strongly agree with this RR brainwash thesis of yours.. I tried to explain to many traders many times about the probability of such R:R 1:1...
They seem to be lost in the forest or so to speak.. seeing trees but not the forest.. They are happily to lose "ONLY" not more than certain amount, ussualy far bellow the expected TP.... at 1:1 it is an alarm for them.. So with that being said, they are limiting themselves quite a trades.... In fact... If this TP:SL 1:1 would really be working... as I am explaining in one of my threads on FF.... AND not for very long, just some 10-20trades, although in a row... (yeah I know you hate that... we would have so many billies.... or even the first trilly

Still not quite sure what are you trying to contribute to people with this thread, aside of this valuable (limitless/fearless) R:R lessons...
To hold the position or trade certain direction with the help of D1? Tnx
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #11
  • Jul 11, 2019 2:02pm Jul 11, 2019 2:02pm
Hi guys, can someone please tell me what indicator this is,I saw someone using it with high gains but he refuses to tell.You can provide its download link if you know it.
Thanks in advance
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  • #12
  • Jul 11, 2019 2:58pm Jul 11, 2019 2:58pm
Quoting auricforecas
what are you trying to contribute to people with this thread, aside of this valuable (limitless/fearless) R:R lessons... To hold the position or trade certain direction with the help of D1? Tnx
This will be a very long journey.

I just got back from a holiday and next week will fly to Japan for 3.5 weeks. I hope to run some live setups, to demonstrate how it is done.

Catching some 300 to 600 pips on a single trade and having like 10-20-30+ similar trades in the portfolio, will definitely change the way people see things and will make them think, at least, how they can adapt their trading style in a similar way?

My ultimate goal is to show them how to catch the 2020 trend. With a delta of 2000 pips and an average 1,000 per trade. Some 100-150 trades included in the portfolio.

Everyone can do it. Trust me. It does involve thinking. A lot of thinking. But when you see it done?
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #13
  • Jul 11, 2019 3:14pm Jul 11, 2019 3:14pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} This will be a very long journey. I just got back from a holiday and next week will fly to Japan for 3.5 weeks. I hope to run some live setups, to demonstrate how it is done. Catching some 300 to 600 pips on a single trade and having like 10-20-30+ similar trades in the portfolio, will definitely change the way people see things and will make them think, at least, how they can adapt their trading style in a similar way? My ultimate goal is to show them how to catch the 2020 trend. With a delta of 2000 pips and an average 1,000 per trade....
I do trust you, but would like to verify.. as you know the saying goes
Should you need any USD side expertise.. as I have dedicated great portion of my... to it... let me know, here... The shorter the timeframe, sooner can you see if it works... Hope you can get/verify out out of this... My price prediction of 10+years predicts... although it might see laugh(s) or counter-intuitive atm... stronger USD by the day, for the next 3months or so.... In particular deflating eurusd, slowly ( i hope, predict).... you can derive GOLD (prices) out of it also.. if it helps...

But we seem to (already) agree on the glorified RR ratio being bullshit I also surfed trends in the past, quite successfully so... just glad I knew the power of "burners" that you seem to hate aka rags to riches or my tp20 sl20 thread.... yeah (I) could not do it with SL20 for long ((for) now), but still... do not underestimate the power of burners... I got factor x22 out of it in the past.. real account, withdrawn without problems... and that with 50:1 leverage... and some massive underharvested trades.... due to fixed TP...

ok diz it man, talk/type to you when u're back from JP or something... I think you are (one of) my (favourite) type of guy(s) You know what I mean by that, out of the box, nutcase (out of the box - far beyond) addict mind IN A POSITIVE WAY!... just channeled to something glorious... Amarite That is the price you have to pay to find something much beyond/out of the box... This is why some of the most clever people in other, more institutionalised areas... fail at fx miserably... they just can not crack the matrix

Only two types of speeds... STALL/OFF or FULL-POWER-BURN (THRUST for real magic as you describe...

Hope Im right, talk to you soon, I hope.
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #14
  • Jul 11, 2019 3:17pm Jul 11, 2019 3:17pm
Look at this. What do you think will happen?

When at ranging years, like the last 5-6, the average delta is nearly $200 (2,000 pips), one can play it safe at 80% reached.

This means, the 2019 trend, according to this better play it safe than sorry rule is over. We have like 1,700 pips delta already.

But 2019 is a special year. We have a breakout. Is it fake? Who cares, if it is? Not me. Load up a new setup every week. Catch 20% at their max. Some will get blown. Not much. Maybe another 20%. The rest will generate some profits and some losses. In general the RR floats in between 20:1 and 40:1.

Shall the strategy make money, despite of the 20% of the batches being blown away?

People fear these blown ups, in precise. Hold it and it won’t matter.
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Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #15
  • Jul 11, 2019 3:29pm Jul 11, 2019 3:29pm
Quoting auricforecas
... just glad I knew the power of "burners" that you seem to hate aka rags to riches or my tp20 sl20 thread.... yeah (I) could not do it with SL20 for long ((for) now), but still...
Well, i hate the r2r idea they way it is presented here. Otherwise I DO LOVE THE IDEA.

How about anyone has the qualities to do r2r? Maybe, not to a million. But 500 to 10k. 10-12 weeks out of 52 does that? Hmmm that is interesting. One can get down to once a month? 2 months guaranteed. 500->10,000. 2 blown ups. 8 are over the water line.

Do it with ma crosses, if you like? No worries.

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do not underestimate the power of burners...
Exactly. The trade and the money management is totally different, however. It is for everyone, unlike r2r.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #16
  • Jul 11, 2019 3:41pm Jul 11, 2019 3:41pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} Well, i hate the r2r idea they way it is presented here. Otherwise I DO LOVE THE IDEA. How about anyone has the qualities to do r2r? Maybe, not to a million. But 500 to 10k. 10-12 weeks out of 52 does that? Hmmm that is interesting. One can get down to once a month? 2 months guaranteed. 500->10,000. 2 blown ups. 8 are over the water line. Do it with ma crosses, if you like? No worries. {quote} Exactly. The trade and the money management is totally different, however. It is for everyone, unlike r2r.
Totally get you! I personally believe that true r2r (with massive return) could be done (almost) only with one of the following: some sort of FIX (insides, technical advantage or manipulation) on the game, being wizard or yeah... getting divine/stat (anomaly/fluke/glitch) luck aka (serial) lottery winner
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #17
  • Jul 11, 2019 4:42pm Jul 11, 2019 4:42pm
Guys something weird has been happening on my trades since Monday and do not know what causes that.

I have placed my SELLS ON FOUR PAIRS AND WHEN THE PRICE WENT DOWN(DROPPED) there on the profit/loss column it shows negative instead of being in profit, why is it doing this, is this normal in the other way round?
  • #18
  • Jul 11, 2019 4:59pm Jul 11, 2019 4:59pm
Quoting Mmase12
Guys something weird has been happening on my trades since Monday and do not know what causes that. I have placed my SELLS ON FOUR PAIRS AND WHEN THE PRICE WENT DOWN(DROPPED) there on the profit/loss column it shows negative instead of being in profit, why is it doing this, is this normal in the other way round?
If you've had the trades open since Monday then it's probably swap? What do those columns say?
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  • #19
  • Jul 11, 2019 5:39pm Jul 11, 2019 5:39pm
Quoting auricforecas
{quote} Totally get you! I personally believe that true r2r (with massive return) could be done (almost) only with one of the following: some sort of FIX (insides, technical advantage or manipulation) on the game, being wizard or yeah... getting divine/stat (anomaly/fluke/glitch) luck aka (serial) lottery winner
Well, outside trading, i have already done r2r. It wasnt fast. And it was not lottery. It was not magic. It was time+some skills. Trading is no different. Except the part where Gold offers gigantic returns. Only, if you hold it. For the annual trend. Every year.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #20
  • Jul 11, 2019 11:38pm Jul 11, 2019 11:38pm
This is some $=GOLD=$
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