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  • #46,221
  • Mar 27, 2018 6:20pm Mar 27, 2018 6:20pm
Quoting Visionary
{quote} The Bears are in charge at the moment with 1329.xx target in mine. 1336.xx break is key to that so Bulls will defend that for now. The MID TERM weekly trend i am referring to is still Bullish with a flip at 1331.xx that is why i buy at 1341.xx RISK 1336.xx for a position trade now, but the same time it all depends on the roll at the end of the day. Which is 1348.xx is the key at the moment. We trading below the week open as well and we entering into Wednesday for overnight rates. So a pull back from here is possible. to load shorts against...
We roll below 1348.xx but a buy scalp form at 1345.xx against yesterday low at 1339.xx so a interesting day ahead of us. BEARS will try to keep Bulls below 1348.xx going into GDP i will move my stops to BE before i go off to bed with my 1341.xx my buy order. I really looking 1348.xx sell that is what my eyes is on for now.
  • #46,222
  • Mar 27, 2018 6:20pm Mar 27, 2018 6:20pm
Quoting Visionary
{quote} Twee have contacted me and have given be permission to be tough with all the clones on the forums. So here goes let me analysis a good trader since you are not in that league or i should say my league. You know why most can complain so much and never have nothing to show for their DD is possible at -95% or just jealousy So here goes. First and foremost lets measure up if i really am a good trader as i claim according to your views. I started this account with $350 with 3 investor in the waiting and few others watching on. They requested...
Visionary,

I learnt a while back not to bother with the trolls on here and have moved to private discussion groups with people on this forum and externally, rather than posting actively on the thread. I've also pulled my TE, however show it to people on request, even though its far more profitable than it was previously in February when I was having people challenge my integrity. I am not here to seek status, I am here to discuss trading and find like minded traders to network with.

Drawdown is the first thing that people attack when trying to critique traders. Don't get me wrong, it is a very important metric and something investors will be drawn to as they seek 'low risk, modest return' investment opportunities. From personal experience, I have had my highest drawdowns in my opening trades on a new account, or when I return to trading after a break. This is the most psychological time for a trader, and if I look at your account.. your highest drawdowns were also in this period (first month of trading). In saying that, since that time you seem to be on a consistent trend of being profitable and not increasing your exposure to the market as you build a bigger equity account - this is exactly my strategy too. I have a level I am comfortable trading (in lots), and am not increasing above that limit even though my account has grown.

Interested in your thoughts here?

I skim 90% of peoples posts on here but I do like to compare my trades to yours in the metals.. we are very much aligned and I most appreciate your non-bias view to the metals beyond the short term, and simply trade the PA in front of you. That to me is key to success, and being willing to trade both long and short with confidence.

All the best with your trading.
  • #46,223
  • Mar 27, 2018 6:33pm Mar 27, 2018 6:33pm
Quoting Mitchoss
{quote} Visionary, I learnt a while back not to bother with the trolls on here and have moved to private discussion groups with people on this forum and externally, rather than posting actively on the thread. I've also pulled my TE, however show it to people on request, even though its far more profitable than it was previously in February when I was having people challenge my integrity. I am not here to seek status, I am here to discuss trading and find like minded traders to network with. I skim 90% of peoples posts on here but I do like to compare...
"I skim 90% of peoples posts on here but I do like to compare my trades to yours in the metals.. we are very much aligned and I most appreciate your non-bias view to the metals beyond the short term, and simply trade the PA in front of you."

A pleasure to meet you mate. Yes the flow in front of me each day is what matter most for weekly profit.

"February when I was having people challenge my integrity." Yes i saw that and in fact that is why i show up posting again to knock few of them in there face for you. For i knew it was just a matter of time they show up.

All the best and we will stay intune and best wishes to your continues success.

Drawdown is the first thing that people attack when trying to critique traders. Don't get me wrong, it is a very important metric and something investors will be drawn to as they seek 'low risk, modest return' investment opportunities. From personal experience, I have had my highest drawdowns in my opening trades on a new account, or when I return to trading after a break. This is the most psychological time for a trader, and if I look at your account.. your highest drawdowns were also in this period (first month of trading). In saying that, since that time you seem to be on a consistent trend of being profitable and not increasing your exposure to the market as you build a bigger equity account - this is exactly my strategy too. I have a level I am comfortable trading (in lots), and am not increasing above that limit even though my account has grown. Interested in your thoughts here?

You are spot on with this. It's very much important for it will determine your recovery time reaching back in profit. Which is what we trade for to be in profit. I am not afraid of DD with small account, it really don't matter the account size thou for it should really be respected the same way in comparison to larger account, however it don't affect me and my psychology much in this case with $350 plus my own money. But once a account grow, plus you managing others account then DD become the top priority. Usually i gauge $10 in gold for 10% for high DD and lower step down as the account grown base on position sizing to fit the account size keeping it at 5% Max for recovery. So over time $10 move in gold can be 1% or even 0.5% base on the account size. Same approach for currency with 100 pips. It only take 0.5% each day to make 10% each month and 310% each year which if you can maintain this you have no problem in the world when it come to money. Only women problem
  • #46,224
  • Mar 27, 2018 7:50pm Mar 27, 2018 7:50pm
Personally I just have a feeling that the Korean, Chinese, and Russian drama won't play out nicely. I remember reading an article recently that the Russians are also stockpiling gold at record rates. Then again maybe I have watched too many spy movies
  • #46,225
  • Mar 27, 2018 8:01pm Mar 27, 2018 8:01pm
Quoting 3in1coffee
Personally I just have a feeling that the Korean, Chinese, and Russian drama won't play out nicely. I remember reading an article recently that the Russians are also stockpiling gold at record rates. Then again maybe I have watched too many spy movies
Probably feel its the best hedge against there currency as they probably don't want to buy USD
  • #46,226
  • Edited 10:35pm Mar 27, 2018 10:25pm | Edited 10:35pm
Quoting RondaRousey
{quote} Posted for FF noobs to go long at around 1260, 3 days ago. Now it's 1275 It was your christmas present noobs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtuVP8Mj4o
Before:
Posted just before Xmas
long at around 1260

After:
today
xau @ 1347

How many pips noobs?



Quoting Visionary
{quote} since you are not in that league or i should say my league. https://www.fibogroup.com/investors/...ANAGEUS#profit I Buying gold at 1310.xx rather than 1320.xx and seeing 1355.xx to close and return was better trade for me i am intraday breed very few and very few can do that.
You are in the pro noob league. All you have shown is a 200k deposit and a 42% drawdown. NOT 200K in trading profits

Your agenda is to get noobs to deposit funds in your PAMM account! Start depositing noobs and experience the thrill of a 40% drawdown


You came here for the truth and let me unveil it for you
  • #46,227
  • Mar 27, 2018 10:45pm Mar 27, 2018 10:45pm
Two big traders here. Talking. Thinking. Speaking out loud.

Both are Managers. Money Managers.

Both are an exceptional traders. An Amazing ones. Trading your money. For a fee.

Both are turning everything they touch into a gold. The One is turning $350 into 10Mil. The Other 26k into 600k. For a couple of months. Still they are looking for your money. For a fee.

Both are trading high lots. For tiny, short distances. Under 10 pips?!? Excited? Everyone?

Here is Visionary's heroic sell at 1355. One would think, as I did, wow, the guy is holding it since 1355 to 1342, but... I expected too much! Well, I am jealous... Jealous does not even describe me. It is something more than jealousy.
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And the other one? $0.10 is like his maximum distance on silver. With a broker spread of $0.01?!?
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #46,228
  • Mar 27, 2018 10:50pm Mar 27, 2018 10:50pm
Quoting MoneyZilla
Two big traders here. Talking. Thinking. Speaking out loud. Both are Managers. Money Managers. Both are an exceptional traders. An Amazing ones. Trading your money. For a fee. Both are turning everything they touch into a gold. The One is turning $350 into 10Mil. The Other 26k into 600k. For a couple of months. Still they are looking for your money. For a fee. Both are trading high lots. For tiny, short distances. Under 10 pips?!? Excited? Everyone? Here is Visionary's heroic sell at 1355. One would think, as I did, wow, the guy is...
For the record my Australian broker which is different from Mitchoss also offers spread of 0.008 to 0.011 for XAG.

Edit: 0.08 to 0.008
  • #46,229
  • Mar 27, 2018 10:55pm Mar 27, 2018 10:55pm
Quoting Visionary
{quote} I was wondering when you will show up. Time for some fun will you all want to be traders First i outline trade that MoneyZilla for the week not the month. If was for month i would just mention that $10 extra i just gain from 1355.xx to 1345.. or many other pips gain over the period.
You lying noob.

Your TE shows:
You shorted at 1355.3 and closed your trade at 1355.1
You went long at 1341.5 and closed at 1341.7

You are no pro trader. But a noob pretending to be a pro. You are in the pro noob league: a con, a charlatan.
Your trading skills are piss weak

You came here for the truth and let me unveil it for you
  • #46,230
  • Mar 27, 2018 11:01pm Mar 27, 2018 11:01pm
Ronda
you blasting someone about a TE is a funny as it gets
such a sad mofo
no charts
no entries
no exits
deleted or forgotten calls
what have I forgotten?????
OH YEAH NEVER A TE for you
so will you delete your post now like you have done more than once when my post is under yours
I will get my head around this, but always can be wrong
  • #46,231
  • Mar 27, 2018 11:07pm Mar 27, 2018 11:07pm
Quoting nimtrader
Ronda you blasting someone about a TE is a funny as it gets such a sad mofo no charts no entries no exits deleted or forgotten calls what have I forgotten????? OH YEAH NEVER A TE for you so will you delete your post now like you have done more than once when my post is under yours
Still can't make any money using Davit's noob trading system? Aren't you following his rules? Read it a million times and then a million more
Are you stupid or something?

btw My calls have made hundreds and thousands of pips. Yours haven't

do I need a TE to make calls? to promote brokers? NO

You came here for the truth and let me unveil it for you
  • #46,232
  • Mar 27, 2018 11:09pm Mar 27, 2018 11:09pm
Quoting RondaRousey
{quote} You lying noob. Your TE shows: You shorted at 1355.3 and closed your trade at 1355.1 You went long at 1341.5 and closed at 1341.7 You are no pro trader. But a noob pretending to be a pro. You are in the pro noob league: a con, a charlatan. Your trading skills are piss weak
Yeah! He really is a charlatanin my opinion, too. I thought he made 10+ bucks. But it was just tiny, little 2 pips! Ha ha ha!

Our Mr. Charlatan, loves the 2.0-2.5 pips area so much... But fights battles here he holds for 10 bucks. Or more...

I can tell you he is busy! That is why he is here.Just passing by. According his words.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #46,233
  • Mar 27, 2018 11:11pm Mar 27, 2018 11:11pm
Quoting Mitchoss
{quote} Visionary, I learnt a while back not to bother with the trolls on here and have moved to private discussion groups with people on this forum and externally, rather than posting actively on the thread.
I so miss your posts Mitchoss, sadly I don't whatapp or skype but if there's another option please Pm me
TBH atm I'm not really looking at silver but I really do miss the way your posts made me think about that market
it's sad the amount of traders who now avoid this forum due to a few
I will get my head around this, but always can be wrong
  • #46,234
  • Mar 27, 2018 11:18pm Mar 27, 2018 11:18pm
Quoting RondaRousey
{quote} Still can't make any money using Davit's noob trading system? Aren't you following his rules? Read it a million times and then a million more Are you stupid or something? btw My calls have made hundreds and thousands of pips. Yours haven't do I need a TE to make calls? to promote brokers? NO
sadly pure black comedy
I'd love you to place an equity curve up that gets close to Davits
esp when his actually has some of the trades within his thread
yes parts of davits system are now part of how I'm looking at some trades
and you can find some recent examples if you can be bothered to look
I will get my head around this, but always can be wrong
  • #46,235
  • Mar 27, 2018 11:22pm Mar 27, 2018 11:22pm
Quoting nimtrader
{quote} I so miss your posts Mitchoss, sadly I don't whatapp or skype but if there's another option please Pm me TBH atm I'm not really looking at silver but I really do miss the way your posts made me think about that market it's sad the amount of traders who now avoid this forum due to a few
I also miss his 3 to 5 cents calls on silver, too. When in a good mood, he gives us 10 cents. But that is a rare animal...
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #46,236
  • Mar 27, 2018 11:26pm Mar 27, 2018 11:26pm
Quoting nimtrader
{quote} sadly pure black comedy I'd love you to place an equity curve up that gets close to Davits esp when his actually has some of the trades within his thread yes parts of davits system are now part of how I'm looking at some trades and you can find some recent examples if you can be bothered to look
Get that idiot to post before and after trades. Not just trades that no one knows about and then suddenly after a move he posts a chart showing he made hundreds of pips.

If you cannot trade cheerlead and photoshop just like your noob guru

You came here for the truth and let me unveil it for you
  • #46,237
  • Edited Mar 28, 2018 1:12am Mar 27, 2018 11:35pm | Edited Mar 28, 2018 1:12am
Quoting nimtrader
{quote} sadly pure black comedy I'd love you to place an equity curve up that gets close to Davits esp when his actually has some of the trades within his thread yes parts of davits system are now part of how I'm looking at some trades and you can find some recent examples if you can be bothered to look
right now I'm looking at lots of green numbers and seeing more and thinking differently
crossing some of the philosophies of Alien, Copernicus and Davit
these people have helped me as a trader
edit oh I forgot Anil in the very begining
I will get my head around this, but always can be wrong
  • #46,238
  • Edited Mar 28, 2018 12:19am Mar 27, 2018 11:46pm | Edited Mar 28, 2018 12:19am
Guys, i am sick of these charlatans here. Charlatan No.1 Visionary is not accepting to live trade side by side with me.

This clown, wasted my whole day yesterday. I have shits to do. Quite some many.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
  • #46,239
  • Mar 28, 2018 12:07am Mar 28, 2018 12:07am
Quoting RondaRousey
Here is a chart noobs can have a look at: {image} From 2010 to today March 28th 2018 Over 1275 trades. No martingale, No grids. Just an edge
Very impressive. But not as much gains in last 500 trades. But still on the way up.
  • #46,240
  • Mar 28, 2018 12:18am Mar 28, 2018 12:18am
Quoting RondaRousey
Over 1275 trades. No martingale, No grids. Just an edge
3 years to get rid of martingale. 4 years to find the edge.

I guess this is just one of her accounts... Probably the least important one.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
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