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  • #841
  • May 13, 2022 9:51am May 13, 2022 9:51am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Heh, previous drop was -85%, so we can see {image}
You are anticipating 10k for btc? I sure want that too and trust me, lots of buys are waiting there
  • #842
  • May 13, 2022 4:02pm May 13, 2022 4:02pm
Quoting Nd10
{quote} You are anticipating 10k for btc? I sure want that too and trust me, lots of buys are waiting there
I'm not long-term trader, so I don't wait for 10k. In fact I don't care. All I need is volume, because I just scalp perpetual futures.

But I'll buy some BTC, ETH and XRP when BTC price will be 10k and hodl it till next pump. It always drops at 85% and then rise 20x (ETH rise more).

So why not. But who knows. May be we have the deep already...
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  • #843
  • May 13, 2022 5:20pm May 13, 2022 5:20pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} I'm not long-term trader, so I don't wait for 10k. In fact I don't care. All I need is volume, because I just scalp perpetual futures. But I'll buy some BTC, ETH and XRP when BTC price will be 10k and hodl it till next pump. It always drops at 85% and then rise 20x (ETH rise more). So why not. But who knows. May be we have the deep already...
Fantastic comments. Would want that too. Fingers crossed. Kindly help me explain this 20x stuff. It's abit confusing to me please. If you can, explain in terms of the trades using lot size. Cheers
  • #844
  • May 13, 2022 6:07pm May 13, 2022 6:07pm
Quoting Nd10
{quote} Fantastic comments. Would want that too. Fingers crossed. Kindly help me explain this 20x stuff. It's abit confusing to me please. If you can, explain in terms of the trades using lot size. Cheers
The best time to buy shit coins is by watching the ratio of money sitting in Bitcoin over all other coins. At the bottom, you often see 65% of all money in crypto sitting in Bitcoin. At present, it sits at 43% in bitcoin, 57% in shitcoin.

I would wait till more shit coins collapse and the masses flee back to Bitcoin to save their arse.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #845
  • May 14, 2022 4:41am May 14, 2022 4:41am
Quoting Nd10
{quote} Fantastic comments. Would want that too. Fingers crossed. Kindly help me explain this 20x stuff. It's abit confusing to me please. If you can, explain in terms of the trades using lot size. Cheers
Last cycle it was 20k -> 3.3k, it is -85%, then 3.3k - 67k, it is 20x

To trade crypto long-term (long position) you don't have to use any exchange. Because you are long 1x by default. So much less risk.
For short you can use 1x short on inverse perpetual. Then you will ear funding every 8 hours and protect your $ (lock it), because 1x btc short has no liquidation price.
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  • #846
  • May 15, 2022 5:00pm May 15, 2022 5:00pm
The "Why?" approach.

I don't know how it is called, and may be (for sure) I'm not the first who use it.

How it works? Do not use anything if you can't explain it.

For example. They say: Use RSI 14. Why 14? Why not 138? Or 12?
Or. Price (or traders) respect EMA 200. Why? How price (or traders) can "respect" moving average? Why 200? Why not 180 or 222?

Or. Average your trade every 100 points. Why 100? Why not 99?
Or. I set take profit at 150 pips distance. Okay. Sure. Why?

Why? Why? Why? Ask yourself. Question all claims.
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  • #847
  • May 16, 2022 8:40am May 16, 2022 8:40am
Let's talk about magical thinking issue. Its the belief that one's ideas, thoughts, actions, words, or use of symbols can influence the course of events in the material world.

For example one trader thinks that price hit EMA200 because banks use it and there are a lot of youtube videos about it. But it is not because of that. It is because moving average is average. You can set EMA 183 and surprise that price will hit it too. Moreover - the shorter the period, the more touches and crosses will be.

Magical thinking is a disorder of thought content. Like "It is raining because I lost all on LUNA and UST". But it is not. It is raining because of physics conditions.

Why it happens and why people believe in all that shit? That is because of laziness. It is easy to say that price hit some line drawn on the chart because of some magic instead of study math, psychology, money management and other stuff.

Stay green!
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  • #848
  • Edited 4:54pm May 17, 2022 4:32pm | Edited 4:54pm
+3.8% today full auto with delta entries on 3 pairs.

But. I want to talk about VOLUME.

Do you know what I learned today? That volume is the amount of asks and bids in the orderbook!

In

the

order

book

aaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

So, if you have a warehouse full of tomatoes then your sells are equal to the amount of that tomatoes??? Who said that 100% will be sold out?

I never thought about it. But how much Forex is mired in lies, it's just beyond the mind. Or they say that RSI show oversold areas, or they say volume is the sum of all ask and bid, or they say that previous high is support or resistance (never mind)...

That is really weird. Now I have only one advice. If you want to succeed in trading - @#$%^ everything you ever read.
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  • #849
  • Edited 9:59am May 18, 2022 9:10am | Edited 9:59am
People asking me in another threads and in pms how I trade, what I trade and so on.

I'm trading only crypto these days. Why? Because I have direct access to the real-time live data using API.

How I prepare my day? First, I'm taking a list of crypto that has 50x leverage. I'm not interested in 25x and 12,5x, because I don't want to increase my risk.
So, after I've got the list I sort it by TP distance and max gain/loss.

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For example that coin has 1.38% TP distance and it dropped by 20.83% already. Why not to trade it long? It is perfect.

Then I choose 2-5 coins from that list and run bots to collect and calculate volume/delta data and start trading.
After 10-12 hours of trading I stop them and go sleep. Also I like to sleep at siesta, but it is not a very good idea to sleep while bots are working

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While bots are working we are chatting with three amigos in my discord trading room. There are a lot of ideas to check, so we share charts, thoughts and so on.
I'm coding every day, so the bots, scripts and indicators are always up-to-date and new features are tested almost every day.

Also people asking how much bots earn. Last few days it was like that:
+3.79%
+1.22%
+1.08%
+2.09%
+3.8%

Yes the profits are not crazy, but you must understand that max risk there is about 0.2x

Why I'm not trading forex? Because there are no asset with 0.5-1% take profit. If we have 0.5%-1% with 50x, then it must be 0.05%-0.1% with 500. But EU, for example, is 0.025% only, so or I can earn 2-4 times less, or I have to increase my risk 2-4 times.

Last but not the least. Some people say that they don't believe in volume and so on. You must understand that I don't care what you all believe in. You can trade as you like. Draw as many lines as you want. Dream that they are support or resistance. Think that volume is sum of orderbook data. Say with very serious faces that stochastic and rsi shows oversold and overbought areas and that moving average is lagging indicator - I don't care. Remember: more idiots around - more money I earn.

Stay green!
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  • #850
  • May 20, 2022 1:06am May 20, 2022 1:06am
Is it possible to earn > 10% daily?

With Volume Delta approach it is POSSIBLE for SURE!

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Crystal CLEAR hard-coded rules!
4 entries.
100% winrate!

No magic "support" or "resistance" lines. No colored rectangles. No prediction. No "million hours of screen time". No "feel the market" thing. No bullshit. Just PURE math!
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  • #851
  • May 21, 2022 6:16am May 21, 2022 6:16am
Quoting ryuryu
Is it possible to earn > 10% daily? With Volume Delta approach it is POSSIBLE for SURE! {image} Crystal CLEAR hard-coded rules! 4 entries. 100% winrate! No magic "support" or "resistance" lines. No colored rectangles. No prediction. No "million hours of screen time". No "feel the market" thing. No bullshit. Just PURE math!
Well done @ryuryu
You are showing for sometime that your approach is working nicely.
Don't listen to trolls and keep making money.
Cheers
  • #852
  • May 21, 2022 2:08pm May 21, 2022 2:08pm
Quoting Merka
{quote} Well done @ryuryu You are showing for sometime that your approach is working nicely. Don't listen to trolls and keep making money. Cheers
Thank you Merka for your kind words!

The thing is that you have an ability to check all my trades - you know that I post them in my discord trading room in real time.
No "hey, check that historical charts, I made my entry here and there". That is bullshit. They cheat. Open your trade - you don't know the future.

Meanwhile we earn day by day. With no scam charts, with no predictions.

I want to say THANK YOU to one guy. Oh no. To two guys and one girl. Oh now. To all my trading FRIENDS.
Why? Because they made it available! They, not me. The TEAM. Team matter. When we share, when we learn. When we research.

RYURYU POWER!!!


BWT, remember I told that there is VIP group called "Tree Amigos"? And that I have another group for all. And that if you share something interesting or you have so skills you can join the VIP group?

Yeah, you all remember that.

SO. Today one guy from main group was invited to the famous "Thee Amigos". Why? Because HE IS F COOL! HE IS AWESOME!
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  • #853
  • May 22, 2022 2:32pm May 22, 2022 2:32pm
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Thank you Merka for your kind words! The thing is that you have an ability to check all my trades - you know that I post them in my discord trading room in real time. No "hey, check that historical charts, I made my entry here and there". That is bullshit. They cheat. Open your trade - you don't know the future. Meanwhile we earn day by day. With no scam charts, with no predictions. I want to say THANK YOU to one guy. Oh no. To two guys and one girl. Oh now. To all my trading FRIENDS. Why? Because they made it available! They, not me. The...
I've been in your discord group for weeks, I haven't seen you post a single live entry ? It seems to me that you criticise other for no posting live trades and yet all you do is post 'results' and no live trades.........
  • #854
  • May 22, 2022 3:48pm May 22, 2022 3:48pm
Quoting rogerha
{quote} I've been in your discord group for weeks, I haven't seen you post a single live entry ? It seems to me that you criticise other for no posting live trades and yet all you do is post 'results' and no live trades.........
Your’e got to be joking, didn’t you hear ryu and me trading SANDUSDT and FTMUSDT last night. I made several live calls including one on PEOPLEUSDT that moved up 60% in a few hours then suddenly dropped 30% in a hour.

Bloody crazy

I stopped after midnight leaving ryu to trade on by himself. You saw my trading result for a Sunday evening, not bad while most traders were having a lazy day doing sweet fuck all.

More the point, why do you guys even join groups when you never even bother to say ”hello”, but hide in the background secretly watching and add nothing to the team effort.

I expect to hear from you tonight, just a simple “Good morning” would be a start.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #855
  • May 23, 2022 2:43am May 23, 2022 2:43am
Quoting rogerha
{quote} I've been in your discord group for weeks, I haven't seen you post a single live entry ? It seems to me that you criticise other for no posting live trades and yet all you do is post 'results' and no live trades.........
Average trade last 1-10 seconds. What is the purpose to post live entry and how it is possible to do manually? I can create a bot that will post my entries to discord. But how you will follow it?

Also. Rules for entry are known. Rules are hard coded. There are no "secret" sauce. If you can't understand "for weeks" how to trade it... may be this is your problem?
We are trading live every day even on weekends. And guess what? When we are trading live with RickM our entries are equal. Know why? Because the rules for entry are the same, because the data is equal. But you can't understand and follow simple approach and blame me for that? Blame yourself.

That is why I have created second group. It is the filter for such a lazy arses like rogerha. Who for months can't understand how much 2+2 is but ready to blame everyone except himself.

p.s. And you, rogerha, can always start to draw lines and rectangles on your charts and follow successful fancy line drawers threads. No one keeps you here and does not force you to trade according to our rules. Just don't forget to make serious face when you will post another batch of bullshit.
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  • #856
  • May 23, 2022 3:19am May 23, 2022 3:19am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Average trade last 1-10 seconds. What is the purpose to post live entry and how it is possible to do manually? I can create a bot that will post my entries to discord. But how you will follow it? Also. Rules for entry are known. Rules are hard coded. There are no "secret" sauce. If you can't understand "for weeks" how to trade it... may be this is your problem? We are trading live every day even on weekends. And guess what? When we are trading live with RickM our entries are equal. Know why? Because the rules for entry are the same, because...

With respect, on my thread post 1439 in reply to Pete you said...

'Regarding to your answer. I repeat. Please SHOW ME the ENTRY. When the future is unknown. I don't need your historical cheat charts. Then we can talk'.

Now you are asking for an entry before the future is known, I would assume that is a live entry.

Rogerha asks you for a live entry and you have the audacity to ask for what purpose!

Perhaps he doesn't want to see your historical cheat charts.
  • #857
  • May 23, 2022 4:55am May 23, 2022 4:55am
Quoting moodybot
{quote} With respect, on my thread post 1439 in reply to Pete you said... 'Regarding to your answer. I repeat. Please SHOW ME the ENTRY. When the future is unknown. I don't need your historical cheat charts. Then we can talk'. Now you are asking for an entry before the future is known, I would assume that is a live entry. Rogerha asks you for a live entry and you have the audacity to ask for what purpose! Perhaps he doesn't want to see your historical cheat charts.
I didn't get what you want from me? If he doesn't want to see my charts no one force him to do it.
In my discord trading room we discuss all the things related to volume trading. If some can't understand "for weeks" what is goin on - better to go and draw few magic lines and think they are support or resistance.

And of course I don't need your charts and your entries. I know that your trading approach is pure bullshit. I just wanted to see how you will draw your magic entries.

Remember: I don't care how you trade. I'm not interested. Please do not show me your entries, charts. Do not explain the magic of your trading style. I saw all that another-one-holy-grail-never-ever-seen-strategy million times. Not interested.

2all: if you want to learn volume trading you are welcome to follow my thread or join my discord group. If you want to trade using rectangles and other drawing tools - no one keeps you here. Do what you want. I have no time to feed you with a spoon.


P.S.
Bot on GAL made 1.73% profit overnight. Using only delta. No shit, no predictions, no guesswork, no magic, no feelings. Just a common sense and the "secret sauce" called math. But you keep jumping from one thread to another talking how you good in drawing lines.
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  • #858
  • May 23, 2022 5:21am May 23, 2022 5:21am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} I didn't get what you want from me? If he doesn't want to see my charts no one force him to do it. In my discord trading room we discuss all the things related to volume trading. If some can't understand "for weeks" what is goin on - better to go and draw few magic lines and think they are support or resistance. And of course I don't need your charts and your entries. I know that your trading approach is pure bullshit. I just wanted to see how you will draw your magic entries. Remember: I don't care how you trade. I'm not interested. Please...
Just reading back through your post and it’s one contradiction after another. That’s fine, it’s expected.
But don’t post on my thread asking people to show entries when you yourself are refusing to do so.
Just post some before the event trades for Roger, I’m sure he’ll report back here the 100% win rate.
Not too much to ask!
Anyway toodle pip….
Oops, not allowed to say pip.
  • #859
  • May 23, 2022 7:15am May 23, 2022 7:15am
Quoting moodybot
But don’t post on my thread asking people to show entries when you yourself are refusing to do so.
But you said that your approach is magic thing and the entries are extremely good. I asked you to show your entries. And where are they? Again blah-blah-blah only and lines on historical charts. And other things you say about timeframes, pips and other things make me think you just don't understand what you are talking about. Because it is impossible to "trade" for 10+ years and don't know the basics.
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  • #860
  • May 23, 2022 12:46pm May 23, 2022 12:46pm
Dear Mr. Ryuryu and Mr. RickM,

Is there any books you would recommend reading regarding (volume) trading?

Thank you in advance.

Mihajlou
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