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  • #61
  • Feb 24, 2010 1:00am Feb 24, 2010 1:00am
Quoting TC East
Yah I think slow execution is not due to too much liquidity It would actually be the opposite. And 70 banks? Huh? I think there are only about 25 large investment banks in the world that even provide any real forex liquidity. That number of 70 doesn't sound right.

And if they are "fighting" for anything, it's NOT to give the trader the best price possible, that much is for sure. Anyway, it sounds like Go Markets is pretty good at marketing, but these claims are a stretch I'd say...
Check this picture out..It's from there website...they have 70 liquidity providers..
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  • #62
  • Feb 24, 2010 1:08am Feb 24, 2010 1:08am
Quoting Gamma76
Check this picture out..It's from there website...they have 70 liquidity providers..
Gamma, see my previous post on this subject just before you posted these lines.
  • #63
  • Feb 24, 2010 1:18am Feb 24, 2010 1:18am
Quoting PipStar
Gamma, see my previous post on this subject just before you posted these lines.
I'm not arguing with anything your saying. i agree with you 100%

Just wanted to post that picture... Everyone knows a single picture means 1000 words..

This meanings of this picture are infinite

1. Go markets considers customers that trade over 10, million + volume a month a liquidity providers.

2.
  • #64
  • Feb 24, 2010 1:26am Feb 24, 2010 1:26am
Quoting Gamma76
Check this picture out..It's from there website...they have 70 liquidity providers..
I wasn't doubting what it is they are claiming, but I hope you are not just taking their word for it because they pasted some picture on their website. That thing is utterly meaningless; they can claim whatever they want to claim; doesn't mean it's true.

My only point was that if they really had that much liquidity, the last thing you would ever experience would be slow execution...it would instead be lightening quick.

But no big deal; if you are happy trading there, then that's what matters...

Peace...
  • #65
  • Feb 24, 2010 5:40am Feb 24, 2010 5:40am
Here are my ping duration statistics that I just ran minutes ago from Boston to GoMarkets real server (123-100-98-185.maxnet.co.nz), which is actually in New Zealand and not Australia:

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>ping 123-100-98-185.maxnet.co.nz

Pinging 123-100-98-185.maxnet.co.nz [210.55.230.196] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 210.55.230.196: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=50
Reply from 210.55.230.196: bytes=32 time=219ms TTL=50
Reply from 210.55.230.196: bytes=32 time=218ms TTL=50
Reply from 210.55.230.196: bytes=32 time=219ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 210.55.230.196:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 218ms, Maximum = 220ms, Average = 219ms
So US to NZ round trip ping duration is 219ms. That means at least 400 to 500ms of execution time would be taken up by network latency (if we assume orders must also be passed off to liquidity providers in US). So Chris' comments about network latency just don't add up if you guys are experiencing 4 to 6 seconds execution durations. There must be bottlenecks in GoMarkets server and/or the liquidity providers' servers.
  • #66
  • Edited 9:07am Feb 24, 2010 7:19am | Edited 9:07am
you know what... about middle of last year my orders began turning to crap and being seriously lag'd. personally i figured it was something to do with my internet connection.

nowadays it is still the same. sometimes it is perfect, then a few minutes later it takes forever (forever = anywhere from 5 to 20 seconds, and i've had one or two even longer i'm sure). i still suspect it's some bs happening not with me or go but somewhere in between. maybe some cleaning lady in nz is bumping the servers or something with a vacuum.

regardless, i just had another (aka regular) lag'd communication from mt4 of about 3 to 5 seconds. keep in mind i'm in brisbane and not on the other side of the world. checking the mt4 'journal' shows no irregularities and the laggy order all shows as processing within the same second. complete bs.

it appears this is what happens... mt4 sends some instruction, lag, lag, lag, oh hi mt4 let me execute your instructions, mt4 please timestamp each transaction as right now, thank you goodbye. so your mt4 journal shows an instant order execution which is complete nonsense. not necessarily anything to do with the broker, but relying on the journal for any facts is misguided in the least.

maybe i'm mistaken?

further checking shows this to be true for adding pending orders, however when deleting a pending order the timestamps are correct... and i have the 18 second lag'd deletion in the journal as clear as day showing this.

either way it doesn't particularly affect the strategy i use so although it p's me off that it happens and it shouldn't happen, but since i always assumed it was something on my end i've just put up with it. seems it's not just me. at some point i will speak with go if it doesn't resolve and these threads don't disappear, as clearly it's not just 1 or 2 customers as i've heard ppl quote go as saying :S

seems like sales-talk to me.

edit : hmm, seems i'm in the mood to be cranky about all this crap... just watched a trade get stopped out, or rather, i should say i just saw a trade vanish and then a few moments later the chart finally update to show the movement that took out the stop. then again the next trade was a similar deal.... suddenly vanishes and then about a second later the chart updates to show the movement that took the trade out. now this kinda crap just doesn't sit right with me. bed time!
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #67
  • Feb 24, 2010 10:58am Feb 24, 2010 10:58am
I noticed on demo that the swap was +5 points on AUD/USD. Can someone verify this on a live account?
  • #68
  • Feb 25, 2010 3:52am Feb 25, 2010 3:52am
interesting to see what has come of Gomarkets in here.

I must say that i have not had any issues at all with fill time over. I really do laugh at some of the idiots that come on FF hence I am not here that much anymore.

Pipstar you're an idiot. the second people have issue you call it manipulation. Yeh I am sure go gives a shit about 1k accounts trading minis and nanos.

i see aussies and us clients have had issues, well call them in BO to solve it. why post up on here and have it turn into a circus, that feeds rumor mongering plus it gives new members total misinformation?

sorry to hear some are having issues but that's why providers have telephone numbers. I advise you call them.

well I am not having any issues so nah nah (joke).

I just wish some members on here would get a little education. I have actually felt the quality of FF has dropped in the last 4 months. some of the posts in this thread are perfect examples.
  • #69
  • Feb 25, 2010 3:54am Feb 25, 2010 3:54am
Quoting Gamma76
Check this picture out..It's from there website...they have 70 liquidity providers..
do you understand where that pic comes from?

that's the currenx logo............go use it cuz they have a currenx feed. if you have issue with that talk to Currenex
  • #70
  • Feb 25, 2010 4:36am Feb 25, 2010 4:36am
well then you are one of the fortunate ones. something has been most definitely screwy with my connection to them for a year, but such is the internet. i wonder how kiwi's find the service since they are as close as you can get to the server.

some of the stuff i have read does not inspire confidence regardless so here's hoping it's not true... but i have no reason to think it wouldn't be :S
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #71
  • Feb 25, 2010 4:57am Feb 25, 2010 4:57am
Quoting >Apocalypto<
interesting to see what has come of Gomarkets in here.

I must say that i have not had any issues at all with fill time over. I really do laugh at some of the idiots that come on FF hence I am not here that much anymore.

Pipstar you're an idiot. the second people have issue you call it manipulation. Yeh I am sure go gives a shit about 1k accounts trading minis and nanos.

i see aussies and us clients have had issues, well call them in BO to solve it. why post up on here and have it turn into a circus, that feeds rumor mongering plus it...

Apocalypto, you are stupid and your post above proves it.

Many people from different parts of the world have experienced execution delays with this broker in the last few weeks or months and you admit it yourself. That never used to happen before so we have the right to ask what is happening and we don't need to keep this issue a secret. We have all read about the virtual dealer plugin so there's reason to be suspicious when all of a sudden a broker's execution time deteriorates. This is what forums are all about - people sharing experiences and interacting with each other. What is your issue here? If you don't like it, don't bother to come in here or post as we can do without your wisdom

And also we don't need any education from you, some of us here have been trading for a long time and we know what we are doing. Go back to trading your nano lots and good luck!
  • #72
  • Feb 25, 2010 5:12am Feb 25, 2010 5:12am
Quoting PipStar
Apocalypto, you are stupid and your post above proves it.

Many people from different parts of the world have experienced execution delays with this broker in the last few weeks or months and you admit it yourself. That never used to happen before so we have the right to ask what is happening and we don't need to keep this issue a secret. We have all read about the virtual dealer plugin so there's reason to be suspicious when all of a sudden a broker's execution time deteriorates. This is what forums are all about - people sharing experiences...
nice reply child, just proved my point about FF degenerating due to idiots......

hats off to you what a perfect example..... if you had ever worked in the industry as well as been a trader you would not post the type of dribble you do.

clap clap to the moron.

Like I said, it's Muppet's like you that keep me out of here. don't bother replying (I know you will, you need the last word) I am not really coming around here much.
  • #73
  • Feb 25, 2010 5:46am Feb 25, 2010 5:46am
Just to let you guys know I have spoken to the fello at GO and he says that he is trying to fix the problem, will let you know further when I know.
  • #74
  • Feb 25, 2010 5:59am Feb 25, 2010 5:59am
Quoting >Apocalypto<
nice reply child, just proved my point about FF degenerating due to idiots......

hats off to you what a perfect example..... if you had ever worked in the industry as well as been a trader you would not post the type of dribble you do.

clap clap to the moron.

Like I said, it's Muppet's like you that keep me out of here. don't bother replying (I know you will, you need the last word) I am not really coming around here much.
You've worked in the industry, so what? I have been trading full time for longer than you can imagine and I doubt you ever will.

If you think that FF is degenerating you should look at your own posts.
And I don't need the last word but you should learn not to go around forums calling anybody names. If you do like you've just done, you should expect to get some mud thrown at you in return you boof head. You take the high moral ground but you are the one who continually uses insulting language. You should follow your own advice and not come back. Then the rest of us can have a very civil discussion on this forum.
  • #75
  • Feb 25, 2010 6:01am Feb 25, 2010 6:01am
Quoting sutters
Just to let you guys know I have spoken to the fello at GO and he says that he is trying to fix the problem, will let you know further when I know.
but, what IS the damn problem!? without something substantial mentioned then it's all just words without meaning. sales talk ftw.

what p's me off the most about these delays, whatever the cause, is that once it occurs you are essentially locked-out of everything. you can't delete an order. you can't modify an order. you can't add an order. all you can do is sit there and wait for mt4 to give you the finger and then you can try again. not cool.

*cries a river* (would i be doing this if i was profitable lately? RAAAGE!)
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #76
  • Feb 25, 2010 10:32am Feb 25, 2010 10:32am
Quoting >Apocalypto<
interesting to see what has come of Gomarkets in here.

I must say that i have not had any issues at all with fill time over. I really do laugh at some of the idiots that come on FF hence I am not here that much anymore.

Pipstar you're an idiot. the second people have issue you call it manipulation. Yeh I am sure go gives a shit about 1k accounts trading minis and nanos.

i see aussies and us clients have had issues, well call them in BO to solve it. why post up on here and have it turn into a circus, that feeds rumor mongering plus it gives...
I think it would be better to refrain from personal attacks and/or calling people idiots please...
  • #77
  • Feb 25, 2010 7:25pm Feb 25, 2010 7:25pm
  •  onu
  • | Joined Feb 2006 | Status: superior senior member | 746 Posts
"System Update

Dear Client,

We have seen a handful of clients experiencing technical difficulties with their MetaTrader4 platform over the past couple of weeks. In an effort to diagnose any potential problems we have run system scans which have shown no errors.

However, in an effort to eradicate any lingering issues and ensure a seamless service with regards to trade execution and connectivity we have decided to perform a full system rebuild this weekend.

Clients will not be able to conenct to the server for approximately 3 hours from 2pm AEDT on Saturday 27th February.

If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to call.

Regards,
Go Markets "

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http://www.myfxbook.com/members/pc8multifx
  • #78
  • Edited Feb 26, 2010 6:14am Feb 25, 2010 10:54pm | Edited Feb 26, 2010 6:14am
Quoting >Apocalypto<
nice reply child, just proved my point about FF degenerating due to idiots......

hats off to you what a perfect example..... if you had ever worked in the industry as well as been a trader you would not post the type of dribble you do.

clap clap to the moron.

Like I said, it's Muppet's like you that keep me out of here. don't bother replying (I know you will, you need the last word) I am not really coming around here much.
Thanks you sir for choosing not to visit this place more frequently., as it limits us having to read your worthless posts.

Apparently this thread is not worthless, as our voices were heard...It looks like the gomarkets team is finally going to deal with the Issues we've been having this coming weekend..
  • #79
  • Edited 1:44am Feb 26, 2010 1:31am | Edited 1:44am
Quoting Gamma76
Thanks you sir for choosing not to visit this place more frequently., as it limits us having to read your worthless posts.

Apparently this thread is not worthless, as our voices were heard...It looks like the gomarkets team is finally going to deal with the Issues we have been having this coming weekend..
if you reread the post you will see I was directly talking to a select few members. made no reference to you, why take it personally?
  • #80
  • Feb 26, 2010 1:34am Feb 26, 2010 1:34am
Quoting TC East
I think it would be better to refrain from personal attacks and/or calling people idiots please...
Sorry, ment no offence to you just frustrated by a few.

cheers
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