Senior White House Offical: Treasury expected to announce measure to combat rising energy prices, includes using oil futures | Metals Mine
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dchristi
Mar 5, 2026 2:24pm
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Well gee, here's an idea: why not restore the Biden-era incentives for (much cheaper) renewable energy, so we don't have to worry about the price of oil?

And while you're at it, make it easy for households to generate as much of their own electricity (and store it in batteries) as possible, so we'll have a resilient energy infrastructure that doesn't fail every time the centralized power grid has a hiccup. But I digress...
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Nordling
Mar 5, 2026 3:23pm
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Quoting JeffEsptein2
I dont why people keep calling me Ferna, But the kind of response I am getting I am sure Ferna is a sane guy on this channel More strength to you Ferna, let the losers cry!!
Get a room guys, we don't wanna watch you two drain each other
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ffghost
Mar 5, 2026 2:35pm
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Quoting JeffEsptein2
I simply love this administration!! Thank you sir Under the kind leadership of Mr. Trump we all will thrive!! Lots of love!! And respect
Ferna got himself a second login? ;-)


I see the move was short lived though in various areas. Gold gave back most of the move. Oil is starting to climb back. Equities are trying...but...

The big question(s): 1) is it real? 2) if so, and China is asked for ANYTHING, the US would need to give something....so maybe that is where the "chip export restrictions" came into play this week? Those can now be "lifted" if China agrees? lol.
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Ferna
Mar 5, 2026 2:44pm
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I bow down for my great and Holy god leader Trump!!!
Using futures gives us all a better future!

We will sell the oil to China at a fair price! just stay out of our way!!!
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FlyingTurtle
Mar 5, 2026 6:08pm
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Quoting Ahmedskaf
The Trump administration is incompetent. You are the worst administration in the history of the United States. 1- Interfering with federal independence. 2- Intentionally weakening the dollar. 3- A trade war. 4- A costly political war. Aren't the American people more deserving of these costs? Why this chaos caused by the Trump administration? May God help the American people.
4 out of 10 americans like him. Usually they are the old, poor, uneducated, unhealthy ones.
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OnlineAddict
Mar 5, 2026 2:19pm
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This is RED news and not YELLOW.


EDIT: Now upgraded one level, as I see.
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ffghost
Mar 5, 2026 2:43pm
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Quoting future911
This is a retaliation from the US, this post comes 10 minutes after the report "China in talks with Iran to allow safe oil and gas passage through Hormuz, according to reports"
Ah, I didn't see that article. Though, upon searching, I do see many similar articles written 2 days ago with titles like: "China is pressuring Iranian officials to keep the Strait of Hormuz open, allow the passage of oil and LNG cargoes, and not attack tankers"

.....so, obviously, that had a positive effect
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cco1569474
Mar 5, 2026 2:48pm
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Quoting Ferna
I bow down for my great and Holy god leader Trump!!! Using futures gives us all a better future! We will sell the oil to China at a fair price! just stay out of our way!!!
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dchristi
Mar 5, 2026 3:17pm
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Quoting Trader#2500
{quote} The entire reason renewables need incentives is because they are not cost effective. Otherwise, there would be no need for incentives. We should've invested in nuclear energy decades ago. 'Infrastructure' spending should go to actually upgrading infrastructure not pushing ideological agendas.
Well, by your logic we shouldn't have to provide billions of dollars in subsidies to the oil and gas industry. But we do.

Nuclear energy is is clearly better than oil and gas, but it's very expensive, and planning, permitting and construction take many years.

Geothermal, wind and solar come online much more quickly, and with battery storage can replace much of our oil and gas dependency at a lower cost.

As for reliability, I don't call a power source (like oil and gas) where you can't predict the price from day to day reliable. With renewable energy, once you've made the initial capital investment, the cost is negligible.

In responding to you, I'm assuming you are not a shill for the oil and gas industry, nor a complete idiot. Please don't prove me wrong. Just inform yourself of the facts.
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future911
Mar 5, 2026 2:40pm
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This is a retaliation from the US, this post comes 10 minutes after the report "China in talks with Iran to allow safe oil and gas passage through Hormuz, according to reports"
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milicentfx
Mar 5, 2026 7:19pm
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Start by firing all the stupid govt a-holes in Washington State
JeffEsptein2
Mar 5, 2026 2:20pm
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I simply love this administration!! Thank you sir
Under the kind leadership of Mr. Trump we all will thrive!!
Lots of love!! And respect
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Trader#C259
Mar 5, 2026 2:24pm
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So Bessent mulls asking adversary reduce oil purchases from other adversaries, sounds fair enough
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Ferna
Mar 5, 2026 3:28pm
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Quoting dchristi
{quote} Well, by your logic we shouldn't have to provide billions of dollars in subsidies to the oil and gas industry. But we do. Nuclear energy is is clearly better than oil and gas, but it's very expensive, and planning, permitting and construction take many years. Geothermal, wind and solar come online much more quickly, and with battery storage can replace much of our oil and gas dependency at a lower cost. As for reliability, I don't call a power source (like oil and gas) where you can't predict the price from day to day reliable. With renewable...
Lol.
Meanwhile: the Dow just hit 50000!!!
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afevir
Mar 6, 2026 1:59am
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If a government wants to curb a sharp rise in prices, intervening in futures markets can be faster and less costly than tapping into physical reserves. The Treasury or the CFTC can: Increase margin requirements; Limit speculative positions; Intensify surveillance of anomalous movements. Effect: Reduces speculation; Cools the market without the need to spend public money
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ffghost
Mar 5, 2026 2:56pm
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Quoting JeffEsptein2
{quote} On that note, I can say STFU
Hehe.

It wasn't a criticism, just more of a friendly jab at very similar comments by an account established within the past 5 days. Ferna would have a sense of humor about it :-P
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Ahmedskaf
Mar 5, 2026 5:51pm
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The Trump administration is incompetent.
You are the worst administration in the history of the United States.
1- Interfering with federal independence.
2- Intentionally weakening the dollar.
3- A trade war.
4- A costly political war.
Aren't the American people more deserving of these costs? Why this chaos caused by the Trump administration? May God help the American people.
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future911
Mar 5, 2026 3:02pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} Ah, I didn't see that article. Though, upon searching, I do see many similar articles written 2 days ago with titles like: "China is pressuring Iranian officials to keep the Strait of Hormuz open, allow the passage of oil and LNG cargoes, and not attack tankers" .....so, obviously, that had a positive effect
articles are too much & regurgitative to keep up with, squawk
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noza
Mar 5, 2026 9:16pm
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Trump must put aside his ego to stop war with Iran and back to negotiation table for the sake of Us citizens, prolong war with Iran more than a week is not good for US economy and pressure from other middle east country will be high.
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FlyingTurtle
Mar 5, 2026 3:13pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} Hehe. It wasn't a criticism, just more of a friendly jab at very similar comments by an account established within the past 5 days. Ferna would have a sense of humor about it :-P
It is obviously Ferna playing dumb. Ok maybe he's not playing lol
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FlyingTurtle
Mar 5, 2026 3:17pm
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Quoting Trader#2500
{quote} The entire reason renewables need incentives is because they are not cost effective. Otherwise, there would be no need for incentives. We should've invested in nuclear energy decades ago. 'Infrastructure' spending should go to actually upgrading infrastructure not pushing ideological agendas.
Well thank good government for incentives because I LOVE my battery powered tools and wouldn't take gas tools if they were free with a lifetime of free gas delivered to my door.

Every time I use my battery powered chainsaw, weedeater, pole saw, hedge trimmer, etc, etc I thank Al Gore et al for the climate hoax!

We need moar hoaxes to incentivize moar great technological advances.
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FlyingTurtle
Mar 5, 2026 9:17pm
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Quoting milicentfx
{quote} Wish I was a smart pointless foreigner like you
Well, you can start by learning proper grammar: it is "I wish I were....", not "was"

AI says:

"Were" is used for hypothetical, contrary-to-fact, or highly unlikely situations, particularly in "if" clauses (e.g., "If I were you, I'd go"). This is the "subjunctive mood," which applies to all subjects (I, he, she, it) in formal English, distinguishing it from "was," which indicates a real, past event.
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FlyingTurtle
Mar 5, 2026 9:22pm
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Quoting Trader#70DE
{quote} Did you make that up like the left does with genders?
Well no, most polls indicate <40% approval rating so I was being generous with 4 out of 10. And I live in MAGAland (PVI 9) and I'm here to tell ya those hillbillies are a sorry sight.
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FlyingTurtle
Mar 5, 2026 10:23pm
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Quoting Trader#70DE
{quote} I apologize if I misgender the lefts cackling wordsald president meant to be, but all the polls said it was "her turn", as Trump managed to turn the entire country red and won the popular vote at the same time. If you don't mind me asking, what do you identity as so I don't mistakenly misgender you? The sane lefts pronouns and infinite genders can get quite confusing to mental people like myself who align with biology.
It funny that someone with no name (Trader#70DE) wishes to know how to address me properly lol. Dude, you should be able to tell I ain't no skirt from my swagger! And who cares anyway? Address the topic and whether I'm M, F, or AI shouldn't matter.

Polls indicate traders are predominantly male, but maybe it's a conspiracy and we're all a bunch of broads. Ok fair point: polls can be wrong. But when Epstein's good buddy in the white house tells us he's taxing other countries when he's actually taxing us after campaigning on lowering prices, and sends the gestapo to herd people into concentration camps on the basis of race, threatens to seize other countries (Greenland), acts like a whiny brat wanting a peace prize while starting wars everywhere, levels the East Wing, explicitly admits to market manipulation (move it like a yo-yo), etc, etc then I'm surprised that even 40% of the confederate's finest still support him.

And if he can't even get some love on zerohedge then I suspect the polls may be overstating the 40%.
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FlyingTurtle
Mar 5, 2026 10:32pm
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Quoting Trader#BD17
{quote} Hillbillies know the difference between man and woman. Democrats are still trying to figure that out. lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=JgU7TX3EgXw
When the hillbillies figure out the difference in cousins and not-cousins when deciding who to marry then they may have enough sense to know that just because someone doesn't like the orange conman doesn't mean they like democrats
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milicentfx
Mar 5, 2026 7:23pm
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Quoting Ahmedskaf
The Trump administration is incompetent. You are the worst administration in the history of the United States. 1- Interfering with federal independence. 2- Intentionally weakening the dollar. 3- A trade war. 4- A costly political war. Aren't the American people more deserving of these costs? Why this chaos caused by the Trump administration? May God help the American people.
Wish I was a smart pointless foreigner like you
ww3361
Mar 6, 2026 2:07am
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Quoting afevir
If a government wants to curb a sharp rise in prices, intervening in futures markets can be faster and less costly than tapping into physical reserves. The Treasury or the CFTC can: Increase margin requirements; Limit speculative positions; Intensify surveillance of anomalous movements. Effect: Reduces speculation; Cools the market without the need to spend public money
In theory at least. Can backfire also, from unintended side effects on liquidity. Margin requirements?: Yes makes sense, but will impact liquidity. Anything else regulatory gets you into horrible legal precedents and ambiguously meaningless text (e.g. "hedge only purchases"). I can see margin, yes. And jaw boning.

But regulatory intervention, for me, doesn't fit the headline "using oil futures". That headline sounds knee jerk and desperate.

I smell blood in the water.
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ww3361
Mar 6, 2026 2:13am
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Quoting afevir
Protecting consumers and businesses from sudden price increases {image}
"To protect", the problem needs first be computable and future predictable. It isn't. Otherwise we would all be living in a real version of Brave New World.

Heavy intervention in a non computable regime, is like struggling in quick sand.

Then the consumer ends up even more f****d. You can learn from recent history or just ignore it. Most of the pains of the modern western world come from action/intervention under the delusion of knowing.

Again, I smell blood.
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dchristi
Mar 5, 2026 3:33pm
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Quoting Ferna
{quote} Lol. Meanwhile: the Dow just hit 50000!!!
I know! Praise our glorious leader!

DJIA 47954.74 -1.61%

S&P 500 6830.71 -0.56%

Nasdaq - 22748.99 -0.26%
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afevir
Mar 6, 2026 2:08am
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Protecting consumers and businesses from sudden price increases
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Ahmedskaf
Mar 5, 2026 7:31pm
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Quoting milicentfx
{quote} Wish I was a smart pointless foreigner like you
Can you explain what you mean by "detail"?
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Polimini
Mar 5, 2026 5:18pm
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Quoting Trader#E6DD
{quote} Those are still great numbers. What's the problem again?
usually that "-" sing before a number doesn't equal great mate
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future911
Mar 5, 2026 2:32pm
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All of a sudden terrorists turn their likings and interest towards saudi arabia in the name of Mohammed
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FlyingTurtle
Mar 5, 2026 3:11pm
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Quoting Trader#8CF4
{quote} Yes lets start incentivizing less reliable energy sources, what could go wrong?
Umm... nothing.
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ww3361
Mar 6, 2026 1:06am
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"includes using oil futures"

hahahahha. Thank you so much for "using oil futures" to give me the right to receive lots of scarce oil!

I guess the US ran out of paper with which to print money?
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Trader#8CF4
Mar 5, 2026 2:27pm
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Quoting dchristi
Well gee, here's an idea: why not restore the Biden-era incentives for (much cheaper) renewable energy, so we don't have to worry about the price of oil? And while you're at it, make it easy for households to generate as much of their own electricity (and store it in batteries) as possible, so we'll have a resilient energy infrastructure that doesn't fail every time the centralized power grid has a hiccup. But I digress...
Yes lets start incentivizing less reliable energy sources, what could go wrong?
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JeffEsptein2
Mar 5, 2026 2:51pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} Ferna got himself a second login? ;-) I see the move was short lived though in various areas. Gold gave back most of the move. Oil is starting to climb back. Equities are trying...but... The big question(s): 1) is it real? 2) if so, and China is asked for ANYTHING, the US would need to give something....so maybe that is where the "chip export restrictions" came into play this week? Those can now be "lifted" if China agrees? lol.
On that note, I can say STFU
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JeffEsptein2
Mar 5, 2026 2:50pm
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I dont why people keep calling me Ferna,
But the kind of response I am getting I am sure Ferna is a sane guy on this channel
More strength to you Ferna, let the losers cry!!
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Trader#BD17
Mar 5, 2026 3:50pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} Ferna got himself a second login? ;-) I see the move was short lived though in various areas. Gold gave back most of the move. Oil is starting to climb back. Equities are trying...but... The big question(s): 1) is it real? 2) if so, and China is asked for ANYTHING, the US would need to give something....so maybe that is where the "chip export restrictions" came into play this week? Those can now be "lifted" if China agrees? lol.
What is a troll account?
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Trader#E6DD
Mar 5, 2026 4:10pm
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Quoting dchristi
{quote} I know! Praise our glorious leader! DJIA 47954.74 -1.61% S&P 500 6830.71 -0.56% Nasdaq - 22748.99 -0.26%
Those are still great numbers. What's the problem again?
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Trader#70DE
Mar 5, 2026 9:40pm
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Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote} Well no, most polls indicate <40% approval rating so I was being generous with 4 out of 10. And I live in MAGAland (PVI 9) and I'm here to tell ya those hillbillies are a sorry sight.
I apologize if I misgender the lefts cackling wordsald president meant to be, but all the polls said it was "her turn", as Trump managed to turn the entire country red and won the popular vote at the same time. If you don't mind me asking, what do you identity as so I don't mistakenly misgender you? The sane lefts pronouns and infinite genders can get quite confusing to mental people like myself who align with biology.
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Trader#BD17
Mar 5, 2026 10:19pm
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Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote} Well no, most polls indicate <40% approval rating so I was being generous with 4 out of 10. And I live in MAGAland (PVI 9) and I'm here to tell ya those hillbillies are a sorry sight.
Hillbillies know the difference between man and woman. Democrats are still trying to figure that out. lol

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Trader#70DE
Mar 5, 2026 10:42pm
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Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote}Dude, you should be able to tell I ain't no skirt from my swagger!
Only women complain as much as you do. How was I supposed to know you were developed with low testosterone levels?
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Trader#2500
Mar 5, 2026 2:59pm
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Quoting dchristi
Well gee, here's an idea: why not restore the Biden-era incentives for (much cheaper) renewable energy, so we don't have to worry about the price of oil? And while you're at it, make it easy for households to generate as much of their own electricity (and store it in batteries) as possible, so we'll have a resilient energy infrastructure that doesn't fail every time the centralized power grid has a hiccup. But I digress...
The entire reason renewables need incentives is because they are not cost effective. Otherwise, there would be no need for incentives. We should've invested in nuclear energy decades ago. 'Infrastructure' spending should go to actually upgrading infrastructure not pushing ideological agendas.
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Trader#70DE
Mar 5, 2026 8:20pm
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Quoting FlyingTurtle
{quote} 4 out of 10 americans like him. Usually they are the old, poor, uneducated, unhealthy ones.
Did you make that up like the left does with genders?
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Trader#E6DD
Mar 5, 2026 8:22pm
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Quoting Polimini
{quote} usually that "-" sing before a number doesn't equal great mate
Markets only go up. Understood. When was the last time you looked at those charts?
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Trader#10C0
Mar 5, 2026 9:44pm
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Trump is the main cancer of all this that had happened. He need to step down for good ……. ZZZzzzz lol
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Trader#123A
Mar 6, 2026 12:57am
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Whoever is moderating these comment sections need to do a better job.
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