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Vancarbon
Nov 14, 2025 4:59pm
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Quoting Ferna
Hey back off from VanCarbon. I've seen you around, why don't you post on an account? Michael Burry quit a few days ago and retired his fund - saying the system 'is rigged'. And here you are mocking a retail trader for getting the timeline wrong in a rigged system. Obviously it would have gone down a long time ago if it wasn't rigged like Burry says.
It’s fine Ferna , let him vent .

BTW - It’s the same poster from the Burry thread , who’s posting abuse towards myself . .

quote=Trader#0C3D;15469690]That’s a lesson for the perma bears here, go short, go broke. He may be right someday but he lost so much money he had to completely quit the industry lol.[/quote]

I’ve had a couple of PMs on the same subject , saying about my restraint ( I’m yet to reply to them ) . In truth , I know most people on these boards are pretty subjective and are able to formulate their own opinion . Also , if you post under a pseudonym ( # trader ) then you’re not accountable for your posts and by definition have zero credibility .
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Expo33
Nov 14, 2025 5:39pm — Edited
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Quoting Vancarbon
Looks like the unstoppable market stopped yesterday . I’m pretty sure I mentioned this scenario at the weekend . It’s pretty quiet commentary wise considering the S&P dumped 200 points from yesterday .
SP up 44% in 6 months and sells off a whopping 1.7% in 2 days and this kid is ejaculating all over himself.

Amazing that someone would come to Forex Factory solely for the purpose of commenting in the news section about the US. 2000 comments. Desperately hoping the US fails. Blabbering on about a country he/she/it knows nothing about. Imagine wasting so much time.

Ironically, when there is a news article about somnething that happens in France, there's no comment. Obviously France is irrelevant on the world stage but pretty sad to say the least.

Disclaimer: I rarely waste time commenting in the news section but when I do I never come back and read any responses
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Vancarbon
Nov 14, 2025 7:16am
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Looks like the unstoppable market stopped yesterday .

I’m pretty sure I mentioned this scenario at the weekend . It’s pretty quiet commentary wise considering the S&P dumped 200 points from yesterday .
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Vancarbon
Nov 14, 2025 8:20am
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Quoting Trader#3AAE
{quote} Support is 6631 in SPX, unless we close below that then any analyst would say the bull market is intact. Then we obviously have the real support at 6559. Both of those levels are prices you said were not possible to reach a few months ago. So going down to a level you said couldn’t be reached is somehow terrible? This is possibly a healthy correction, but if we skyrocket back up as usual, then it’s neither healthy or a correction, just big players messing around to create trades. If Nvidia gaps higher on earnings you’ll know this move was...
It was a certain trader who said those levels were not achievable, not myself , but you know this already .

The certain poster repeatedly said the market was unstoppable , I won’t mention names . It’s quite petty in the scheme of things .
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Vancarbon
Nov 14, 2025 9:00am
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Quoting Trader#81CA
{quote} I’m doing quite well this week, judging by your tone you are as angry as always. How about you posting that the US is stupid for not raising taxes significantly, and then look at the UK lol. You told everyone to short last weekend and we literally gapped up huge and kept going, and somehow you think that’s a correct trading call? Let’s make this simple, post a trade, any trade, for one single time in your life, post a trade. Ok I know you never will as you are not a trader, but maybe stop trying to pretend to be a trader. You post here to...
lol , another ego dented
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Vancarbon
Nov 14, 2025 10:57am
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Quoting ffghost
Regarding the " job report data was collected but not processed". I'm not on the inside, but how hard can that really be? I envision an excel spreadsheet where some unpaid high school intern enters the data into each cell under the heading "September" and then types "=sum(sept)". Maybe he/she was sick? :-P {quote} I can't check IPs, but I'd wager #EB4A wasn't the same as the other 3....only because EB4A would be calling themselves a liar based on the post from 36F2. That said, props where props are due VC (said it in...
No it’s him ghost my friend . The infamous # poster 35T who has an ego akin to Trump .

Maybe he has similar other similarities , might explain the anger issues . It’s best to stay sidelined my friend, maybe edit your post as he’ll be lashing out even more now . I’ve just got a new box of bait.


On the trading front , that’s a good bit of analysis. The gap down is still there from yesterday and Nvidia 19th . December we have the Christmas rally , 1st quarter I think will be brutal . Maybe one last chance of a new ATH , after that watch out below .
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Vancarbon
Nov 14, 2025 11:24am
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} I'll say this much: After the past 3 weeks, IF we take another run at the ATHs, I will be darn near flattening everything and breathing a HUGE sigh of relief. So I really hope that your call there occurs, and does so with no further downside... If last week's bounce was all we could muster before a plummet, the area under the xmas tree is going to even more sparse than usual! In trying to teach kids temperance, they typically get 1 gift from mom and dad. Not sure they could fully grasp "sorry, no presents this year due to market volatility"...
The monthly on the S&P is peaking , Weekly giving huge candles ( 200 both directions ) , Daily playing out to the downside as per your retracement levels .

These huge swings and volatility should be giving cause for concern factoring in the economies performance , shutdown , inflationary pressures and a Fed resistant to change direction due to the inflationary environment .

Seasonal factors do however play a part and book squaring year end .
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Vancarbon
Nov 14, 2025 6:09pm
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Quoting Expo33
{quote} SP up 44% in 6 months and sells off a whopping 1.7% in 2 days and this kid is ejaculating all over himself. Amazing that someone would come to Forex Factory solely for the purpose of commenting in the news section about the US. 2000 comments. Desperately hoping the US fails. Blabbering on about a country he/she/it knows nothing about. Imagine wasting so much time. Ironically, when there is a news article about somnething that happens in France, there's no comment. Obviously France is irrelevant on the world stage but pretty sad to say the...
Get back in your box Expo !

What a one trick pony that tired old narrative of yours has become. I suggest reading your own disclaimer and attempting something less feeble than the waffle you post .

Quite a sad effort on your behalf , yet unfortunately reflects your own ignorance and stupidity .

I’ll get my own tissue to clean up after myself .

NB - I’m not in France ! How can someone be so dumb after reading my 2000 posts
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Vancarbon
Nov 15, 2025 5:42am
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I see the greatest sycophant of Trump has fallen out of favour with the man himself .

MJT constantly requesting release of the Epstein files has caused a 180 U- turn in Trumps rhetoric . That’s pretty damning considering she was a stalwart of the MAGA movement , as well as being a vociferous advocate of Trump she’s now in the firing line .

Interesting times indeed
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ffghost
Nov 14, 2025 10:38am
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Regarding the " job report data was collected but not processed". I'm not on the inside, but how hard can that really be? I envision an excel spreadsheet where some unpaid high school intern enters the data into each cell under the heading "September" and then types "=sum(sept)". Maybe he/she was sick? :-P



Quoting Vancarbon
4 consecutive posts , It’s hilarious to read . Rant after Rant . Who are you trying to convince me or yourself ? I’m sure you got your 10 S&P points attempting to buy every dip .
I can't check IPs, but I'd wager #EB4A wasn't the same as the other 3....only because EB4A would be calling themselves a liar based on the post from 36F2.

That said, props where props are due VC (said it in a prior post too): calling 24800-25000 as a target to the downside was spot on. We both saw it...but I refused to "believe" it. Pain....so much pain.....

What worries me is that the bounce from last week was right to the 61.8% area before rolling over again. That solidifies the fact that we are still "in a down trend" off the highs. Once that level is breeched, I will have a bit more confidence in my massively over-levered long position.

I REALLY hope today is a repeat of last Friday, but every time I see one of these bounces, I am reminded that yesterday's open dropped 1%, rallied 1%, and then dropped 2% (/nq) basically within 60 minutes. Obviously, today look more like last Friday and has another amazing candlestick pattern forming off the 50day MA, BUT............

This time I will no doubt be de-levering well before necessary to avoid the same type of pain as was endured over the past 2 days. 720 pts down tip to tail yesterday, 1075 through this morning....that's a hefty move across a few dozen mini's. The H&S (15 minute chart) on the /nq couldn't get much cleaner. Hindsight is 20/20, right? Uhg.

In any event, this has been a welcomed bounce to say the least...time to lighten up assume some losses for fear or another retracement. For what it's worth, at the moment (despite the VIX dropping from 23 to 20 this morning), the markets still seem to be in a state of trepidation. The bounce after an over-extended selloff on "we don't plan to tell you any numbers" -government and "we can't lower rates without data" -fed may or may not be sustained. As I type this, markets are approaching 61.8% retracement of Wed overnight highs to Fri morning lows. That is going to be a key area. For now, I'm smoking the "hopium" with the best of the bulls, but in the back of my mind is yesterday...

Good luck everyone on this wild ride!
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ffghost
Nov 14, 2025 10:56am
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Quoting Trader#D595
{quote} It’s just painful how dumb you are, 10 is the stop, the profit is whatever the market gives because it’s a trailing stop. You also can’t do math. Today’s gain was easily over 25 for anyone even a bad trader. If you make 5 es points a day on average you make a great living, far more than you have ever made in your life. Everyone paying attention? Uk duchebag is too chicken to post a single trade after telling everyone to go short at today's low lol.
Not trying to stick my head in the lions mouth here, BUT....

Doing some quick math here because I was interested to see if your statement holds up:

5pts*50/pt = $250. $250/day*5 = $1250/week. $1250*50 (let's assume you don't make $$ on "market holidays)= $62,500/year. Less US futures taxes (28.6% off the 60/40 long/short term cap gains split), SS/medicare/state/muni taxes...

Effectively, a $30/hour job at 40 hours per week. Now, if you get your $$ in 10 minutes and kick off the rest of the day, that's not a bad hourly rate at all (if it were sustainable and never a drawdown), but I wouldn't go so far as to say it is "great living". Take home won't even cover rent of a studio apartment in any of the largest 5 cities in the US (let alone food....insurance....entertainment....etc). And if you have another mouth(s) to feed, forget it. The stress involved probably wouldn't be worth the hassle.

****Lesson for the kids out there***** If trying to make less than a few hundred thousand per year trading (as a full-time job), you might as well take this approach: buy 2 /es on the next 10% dip and never, EVER, touch it (except to roll the positions). If the /es moves up 500 pts in a year (~10% at these levels minus the 3 roll yield hits), you're looking at $500*50 = $50k. Future 20% pullback, add one. Rinse repeat. Can you beat that scalping/swing trading? Yes. Will you? 95% don't. Even if you do/can, the swings on a small (or over-levered) account can be EXTEMELY swift and painful. "I know, from experience dude, if you know what I mean..." -Chris Farley (RIP).



But back to the commentary: let's just try to be civil. What makes a market is having people with differing opinions. We are seeing that play out beautifully over the past few weeks. There's no such thing as an "unstoppable" market. There's also (not yet anyway) never been an equity market that has gone to zero (that that anyone claims there has been or will be). We all take our lumps, learn, and move on.

If concerned with 'bragging rights', bears make a lot more $$ in a shorter time than bulls....but bulls get to say the are "right" much longer than bears. Each gets their moment in the sun. Presently, everyone can simply sit back and enjoy the elevated VIX enabling 2-sided action.......



........except me....because I need /vx to be back down to 15 by the end of the day to cause another 2% rise in the /nq, /es, and /rty so I can exit some of these darn longs!
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ffghost
Nov 14, 2025 11:13am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} No it’s him ghost my friend . The infamous # poster 35T who has an ego akin to Trump . Maybe he has similar other similarities , might explain the anger issues . It’s best to stay sidelined my friend, maybe edit your post as he’ll be lashing out even more now . I’ve just got a new box of bait. On the trading front , that’s a good bit of analysis. The gap down is still there from yesterday and Nvidia 19th . December we have the Christmas rally , 1st quarter I think will be brutal . Maybe one last chance of a...
I'll say this much: After the past 3 weeks, IF we take another run at the ATHs, I will be darn near flattening everything and breathing a HUGE sigh of relief. So I really hope that your call there occurs, and does so with no further downside...

If last week's bounce was all we could muster before a plummet, the area under the xmas tree is going to even more sparse than usual! In trying to teach kids temperance, they typically get 1 gift from mom and dad. Not sure they could fully grasp "sorry, no presents this year due to market volatility" at this young age :-P
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ffghost
Nov 14, 2025 11:37am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} Seasonal factors do however play a part and book squaring year end .
Here's hoping a lot of cash needs to chase profit and just saw this latest dip below the 50 day MA as an opportunity (and not a threat)!!
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Luxyus
Nov 14, 2025 6:55am
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ye let s hide all this dust under the carpet lol
Vancarbon
Nov 14, 2025 10:15am
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4 consecutive posts , It’s hilarious to read .

Rant after Rant .

Who are you trying to convince me or yourself ?
I’m sure you got your 10 S&P points attempting to buy every dip .
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Vancarbon
Nov 14, 2025 10:37am
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Wait a few minutes please .

I’m just going out to buy some more bait , I’ve ran out.

Cheers
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BaliBoyz80
Nov 14, 2025 7:28am
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no NFP ?
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Trader#3AAE
Nov 14, 2025 8:06am
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Quoting Vancarbon
Looks like the unstoppable market stopped yesterday . I’m pretty sure I mentioned this scenario at the weekend . It’s pretty quiet commentary wise considering the S&P dumped 200 points from yesterday .
Support is 6631 in SPX, unless we close below that then any analyst would say the bull market is intact. Then we obviously have the real support at 6559. Both of those levels are prices you said were not possible to reach a few months ago. So going down to a level you said couldn’t be reached is somehow terrible?

This is possibly a healthy correction, but if we skyrocket back up as usual, then it’s neither healthy or a correction, just big players messing around to create trades. If Nvidia gaps higher on earnings you’ll know this move was engineered to get in at lower prices. If it gaps down, then an actual correction is possible.
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Trader#81CA
Nov 14, 2025 8:37am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} It was a certain trader who said those levels were not achievable, not myself , but you know this already . The certain poster repeatedly said the market was unstoppable , I won’t mention names . It’s quite petty in the scheme of things .
I’m doing quite well this week, judging by your tone you are as angry as always. How about you posting that the US is stupid for not raising taxes significantly, and then look at the UK lol. You told everyone to short last weekend and we literally gapped up huge and kept going, and somehow you think that’s a correct trading call?

Let’s make this simple, post a trade, any trade, for one single time in your life, post a trade. Ok I know you never will as you are not a trader, but maybe stop trying to pretend to be a trader. You post here to attack other people and countries. This is a Facebook friends group for you to attack things and agree with each others in your bubble. That’s ok, no problem. But pretending to be a trader is just silly, you have never posted a trade.
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Trader#7349
Nov 14, 2025 8:49am
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Here’s a hint, as of late bitcoin has been a good coincident indicator for stocks. Look as an intraday chart of it, do you see where you can draw a straight line under a bunch of candles? That’s support. Then do you see huge green candles after that? That was the indication that stocks had found some intraday support. SPX skyrocketed 40 points off the low in minutes. If you can’t catch a few of those 40 points you shouldn’t be trading.
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Trader#7A81
Nov 14, 2025 9:04am
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} lol , another ego dented
How exactly is that a trade? You have posts saying 5k was a dead cat bounce, you have posts to me saying you were shorting multiple times a little over 6k, anyone can looks those up. You never once said you were long, never, from 4800 to 6900. And now you are too chicken to post one single trade? Ok Facebook warrior lol. I’d say go get a job but your government pays you to sit at home complaining about everything.
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Trader#EB4A
Nov 14, 2025 9:13am
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See how bitcoin topped and rolled a bit? That’s the signal to get out of your dip buy. So you are flat and waiting for another dip to buy. Simple, easy, repeatable. Also to be a trader you have to have pattern recognition. Today obviously looks the same as last Friday, so a big quick up moves are to be expected.

Also, anyone who claims to know where anything will be next week, next month, or next year is a liar. They don’t know because if they did they would be a billionaire from trading. Trading is about taking probable short term trades, many only last a few minutes. So when you see idiots talking about where anything will be in the future, ignore them. If you start thinking you know what the market will do, you will fail as a trader. Let the market tell you what it’s doing.
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Trader#68D7
Nov 14, 2025 9:48am
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Quoting Vancarbon
Looks like the unstoppable market stopped yesterday . I’m pretty sure I mentioned this scenario at the weekend . It’s pretty quiet commentary wise considering the S&P dumped 200 points from yesterday .
Going to screenshot this. Absolute proof you are a complete joke. Posting about the market going down while at the bottom only to have literally everything reverse and explode higher. You are literally wrong about everything all the time lol. Its honestly amazing how completely clueless you are.
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Trader#D595
Nov 14, 2025 10:22am
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Quoting Vancarbon
4 consecutive posts , It’s hilarious to read . Rant after Rant . Who are you trying to convince me or yourself ? I’m sure you got your 10 S&P points attempting to buy every dip .
It’s just painful how dumb you are, 10 is the stop, the profit is whatever the market gives because it’s a trailing stop. You also can’t do math. Today’s gain was easily over 25 for anyone even a bad trader. If you make 5 es points a day on average you make a great living, far more than you have ever made in your life.

Everyone paying attention? Uk duchebag is too chicken to post a single trade after telling everyone to go short at today's low lol.
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Trader#E996
Nov 14, 2025 10:41am
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Quoting Vancarbon
Wait a few minutes please . I’m just going out to buy some more bait , I’ve ran out. Cheers
Ok chicken boy, it’s must be so embarrassing for you to be humiliated like this. Pretend to be a trader, every prediction 100%, and you are too scared to make a single trade.

You tried to act all high and mighty at the low today telling everyone how right you are to be short stocks. Then when completely proven wrong again, you run away still too chicken to post a trade.

You cover your short from 6650 today? Nope? Thought not. 115 SPX lost by Vanclueless today, everyone make sure to listen to him lol.
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Trader#1026
Nov 14, 2025 11:36am
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} I'll say this much: After the past 3 weeks, IF we take another run at the ATHs, I will be darn near flattening everything and breathing a HUGE sigh of relief. So I really hope that your call there occurs, and does so with no further downside... If last week's bounce was all we could muster before a plummet, the area under the xmas tree is going to even more sparse than usual! In trying to teach kids temperance, they typically get 1 gift from mom and dad. Not sure they could fully grasp "sorry, no presents this year due to market volatility"...
This market is not allowed to have a correction, obviously. We can’t even have two down weeks in almost 7 months, that puts this bull market in the camp of strongest of all time. However, markets that are not allowed to correct end up crashing, like bitcoin. We will fall big and hard at some point, but no one can know or even guess when that is. We could drop 20% on shock news tomorrow, or go up another 15% before a down move. Point being, I’m not sure I’d be leveraged long overnight without some protection, but I suppose that depends on account size and leverage specifics.

I don’t claim to know where the market is going longer term like the non stop liars here, I can easily prove no one knows that, I just stick to obvious patterns like buying dips for 7 months because it hasn’t stopped working. Good luck to you, honestly, you are only of the only posters here not filled with non stop hate.
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Trader#2CE5
Nov 14, 2025 7:11am
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Cover-up cause its bad.
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Trader#36F2
Nov 14, 2025 9:35am
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Wow look at the spx go, literally unstoppable lol. Every time I think it might go down it just rockets back up making the perma bears cry.
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Trader#BD75
Nov 14, 2025 10:56am
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I'm not really mad at you Vancarbon. I'm mad at my dad because he went to the store to buy dip and never came back

-35T
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