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  • #10,641
  • Sep 27, 2024 3:25am Sep 27, 2024 3:25am
Quoting deanyakobs
the bulls are the bears
depending on his station target
The sign and clue exist on Tokyo Sessions

Spot on deany the bulls & the bears, as george drummed into us, are likely one & the same

up to us to "see" nakamoto's moves when we can

today was classic, push and push GJ up in tokyo - looked like all the early hallmarks of their fake'n'flip in my eyes
trade safe, trade well sir
  • #10,642
  • Sep 27, 2024 3:28am Sep 27, 2024 3:28am
Quoting fxpider
{quote}
Three proven ways for a stronger safe haven currency

Higher interest rate
Go into war.
Appoint the EX-defense minister as the leader

Nailed it in three, imo fxp
  • #10,643
  • Sep 27, 2024 3:32am Sep 27, 2024 3:32am
My day, week & month is done now, today

Was the move a true structural move, if so it's not over yet
if not we go back into range
and wtf will New York do with what they have inherited lol (tho I'll be well snoozing then )

gonna be a fun october maybe, starting next Tuesday

Here's the GJ daily (as it stands now)

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  • #10,644
  • Sep 27, 2024 6:15am Sep 27, 2024 6:15am
Quoting deanyakobs
at the end, all about liquidity hunter It is not what it seems graciously simple circuit
GJ found it, all the way back to 31st July
It never gets easier, you just get better
  • #10,645
  • Sep 27, 2024 5:24pm Sep 27, 2024 5:24pm
While ask and ask with chatgpt,

what unavoidable consequence that predicatable based on his supreme market maker mathematical model ?

What price behaviour phenomen that must happen constantly with most consistency (on chart) ?

The answer is amazing lyrics that said
MEMORY IS FULL
because you don't pay me ...buddy
  • #10,646
  • Sep 28, 2024 6:16pm Sep 28, 2024 6:16pm
Just a terrific week last week
Unless the mkt gets itself out of position again tomorrow Monday, I might watch it flow by and check in on Tues the first.

So what lies behind
AND ahead of us, for the Yen'ners pairs.

A pre look at the GJ 1hr chart (without any of the RNs = too crowded lol)
(I would of course be looking for any RN trader attractors, incl all the confluences, as the week AND the new month of Oct unfolds)

Trade safe, and trade well all


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  • #10,647
  • Sep 29, 2024 4:50pm Sep 29, 2024 4:50pm
Quoting TimeTells
Just a terrific week last week Unless the mkt gets itself out of position again tomorrow Monday, I might watch it flow by and check in on Tues the first. So what lies behind AND ahead of us, for the Yen'ners pairs. A pre look at the GJ 1hr chart (without any of the RNs = too crowded lol) (I would of course be looking for any RN trader attractors, incl all the confluences, as the week AND the new month of Oct unfolds) Trade safe, and trade well all . {image}
Pete
Nice to see you having a look at 1/8th moves
Also looking left, as we all do
The only thing is
When I look left
boy do I look left, Can you see my
20 YEAR CHART do you see how long we have been in the 125 - 250 Octave
plus the relavent 1/8th Octaves
That his my set and forget chart
Now all I do is just change time frames
Then just wait for price to come to a level I fancy having a crack at
As you scroll down in Time you can see how long price stays in the Baby Octaves
ps
Like you say many time
We all have our own ways and none of them are the
Holy Grail
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  • #10,648
  • Sep 29, 2024 5:25pm Sep 29, 2024 5:25pm
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Before anyone asks
Yes these levels will re calculate with the fullness of time
  • #10,649
  • Sep 29, 2024 6:16pm Sep 29, 2024 6:16pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote} Pete Nice to see you having a look at 1/8th moves Also looking left, as we all do The only thing is When I look left boy do I look left, Can you see my 20 YEAR CHART do you see how long we have been in the 125 - 250 Octave plus the relavent 1/8th Octaves That his my set and forget chart Now all I do is just change time frames Then just wait for price to come to a level I fancy having a crack at As you scroll down in Time you can see how long price stays in the Baby Octaves ps Like you say many time We all have our own ways and none of them...

I’m just letting now the last day of the trading month GJ chart this morning in Asia recalibrate a bit after Friday’s lovely whoosh down.

So unfortunately, for all, that means I did a long post sorry lol



Cheers Dave,

I loved that 20 year chart.


Yes I did introduce eighths (and the 8th’s also into the Round Number quarter theory as well ie .125 etc) after Alain showed his own reference points way, way back based on his long time studies in his long standing Envelopes thread.

The key imho of all or any trade reference points (and there are many, of course, no one way to do this market trading as you also say)
is the WHERE and when ... ie price & time ... that other traders “might’ also come into the market either adding OR removing (closing for TP or S/L) liquidity.

That liquidity change can offset any static price compression zones (inflection points, Bollinger band squeezes etc etc) and can get the market MOVING for us.
A moving market is eminently tradeable (visually as well imo) whereas a static/stationary market requires a trader to assume/predict (via maths, their indis or whatever) the next direction. Some predict this next direction VERY WELL (ie better than the 50% of the obvious price will either go up OR down concept).

Bigger controllers of market moves (?) will also know this and is why I assume the market does the fake’n’flips,
and as Andy/Moody put it to me once, entice traders initially into the wrong initial direction.

Which can explain how base indis, such as MA’s etc, get out of whack (discombobulated hahaaa) and are then upside down for a “parameter period” until they recalibrate themselves back into current direction/trend.

Whipsaws etc can confuse, in the short term, not only indicators but traders as well as then at those times ‘something’ is happening on the charts that does not fit their current expectation.

After the dust has settled though is often a good time to get in, but as always, up to each trader and how they trade the market from their own understandings.

Price
identified easiest I reckon by a simple horizontal line that shows the price on the right hand vertical axis of our charts
is a CONSTANT..... 190.000 for example will always be 190.000 on the chart, inflexible.

Which price (constant) is it that traders get interested en masse maybe is where those fakes might begin and then ultimate direction eventually take off.

Eighths and quarters I do observe but they do not, for me, function as a “trade entry” if you know what I mean.
I always wish to wait & see the larger market ‘reaction’ at any price or target/station first.

The target attractors
(and again there are many, as different styles of traders come in on their own preference, ie institutional position traders, weekly & daily swing traders, shorter term session based punters like myself hahaa etc)
are best for me when MULTIPLE styles of traders are showing interest all at the SAME TIME which are the best liquidity times
(and are both the high AND low liquidity times which can cause the greater market moves imho).

No one way to do all this, or one which is best.
Just what works for US best.

So thx for the 20 year chart levels
(As well as a 20 year chart there is also a thread on FF somewhere I remember that recalibrates its levels based historically on the ALL TIME and therefore
widest high / lows ever - interesting, but again not tradeable as per the levels imo. It will always be, for me that is, the market reactions first as being safest)

A 1 min chart has other factors that might also influence direction & its subsequent bobs up & down, and I trade occasionally from a 1min to try and finesse an entry, but in the end the 5m, 15min give me a better handle on the wider picture.

Cheers again Dave, and good trading to you, & ALL.
  • #10,650
  • Sep 29, 2024 6:36pm Sep 29, 2024 6:36pm
Thanks
Off to bed now
leave you with a 5 min
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  • #10,651
  • Sep 29, 2024 6:39pm Sep 29, 2024 6:39pm
Quoting OAPDave
Thanks Off to bed now leave you with a 5 min {image}

Excellent Dave
Here's mine on the 15m
(still not trading yet lol, just observing)

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  • #10,652
  • Sep 30, 2024 3:22am Sep 30, 2024 3:22am
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} I’m just letting now the last day of the trading month GJ chart this morning in Asia recalibrate a bit after Friday’s lovely whoosh down. So unfortunately, for all, that means I did a long post sorry lol Cheers Dave, I loved that 20 year chart. Yes I did introduce eighths (and the 8th’s also into the Round Number quarter theory as well ie .125 etc) after Alain showed his own reference points way, way back based on his long time studies in his long standing Envelopes thread. The key imho of all or any trade...
Pete
You mention Alain
here is the setup from another guy you will remember, but sadly no longer with us
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  • #10,653
  • Sep 30, 2024 4:08am Sep 30, 2024 4:08am
Quoting OAPDave
{quote}
Pete You mention Alain
here is the setup from another guy you will remember, but sadly no longer with us {image} {image} {image}


Hi Dave,

Everything we do & see should work in the end I reckon Dave.

So all the methods, all of the systems, all of the chart templates, they all identify “something” meaningful personally for us, in the markets.

The only tangible variable in the end, and which is so much personal, I MUST assume, IS JUST US.
The final determinator of whether we are successful or otherwise.


If we ALL can see it on our charts then how is it possible not to have every trade a winner
Yet that is not the case, so at times the market must run against our current logic.

I call it The Aggregations but who knows.
Just that someone/thing has to be taking the equal & opposite side to all our trades each and every time for all of us else our trades don’t get picked up.
Which is why, imo, supports & resistance and logic based TA will not work all the time, maybe only 50% who knows, but it would be crazy to throw it all away
(a bit like tossing the baby out with the bathwater maybe).

I always seem get back to price & time and (ultimate) direction. Regardless of what chart view we employ.

Myself you know I love the stations / targets (trader attractors lol), others love the hi’s / lo’s, others their maths, envelopes, ma’s, tma’s, trendlines etc etc etc etc etc Doesn’t matter as there is no just one way imo.

In the end it’s really only us I think, and how we trade & how we all manage our trades.
So I always say just "trade safe & trade well" all .

(ps Dave and yes you mention a trader who was one of the true gents here on FF, he never had a bad word for anyone that I remember, he loved his dog, was a great coder, and more. Plus his 666 parameter always gave me a really good giggle also hahaa - RIP )

First day of the new month tomorrow. What mischief will that bring
  • #10,654
  • Sep 30, 2024 4:42am Sep 30, 2024 4:42am
Day is done, NY could be fun for those around, but back in October for me ()

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  • #10,655
  • Sep 30, 2024 5:08am Sep 30, 2024 5:08am
Looks interesting, gonna read the 530 thread pages...
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  • #10,656
  • Sep 30, 2024 5:17am Sep 30, 2024 5:17am
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Hi Dave, Everything we do & see should work in the end I reckon Dave. So all the methods, all of the systems, all of the chart templates, they all identify “something” meaningful personally for us, in the markets. The only tangible variable in the end, and which is so much personal, I MUST assume, IS JUST US. The final determinator of whether we are successful or otherwise. If we ALL can see it on our charts then how is it possible not to have every trade a winner Yet that is not the case, so at times the...
(ps Dave and yes you mention a trader who was one of the true gents here on FF, he never had a bad word for anyone that I remember, he loved his dog, was a great coder, and more. Plus his 666 parameter always gave me a really good giggle also hahaa - RIP )

Yes - a great guy.
every Saint has a past. Every Sinner has a Future
  • #10,657
  • Sep 30, 2024 5:30am Sep 30, 2024 5:30am
Quoting Vuki
Looks interesting, gonna read the 530 thread pages...

Hi V,
Throw up an annotated chart any currency indice or whatever you like.
All welcome
  • #10,658
  • Sep 30, 2024 5:00pm Sep 30, 2024 5:00pm
I always love to see what New York got up to on the charts when I wake up in the mornings
(as EVERY trader would when they wake up to THEIR own charts on a new day)


It’s not always so easy to ‘see’ how the market mechanics move on a static chart
ie imho it is always best for a new trader to ‘learn’ anything on a dynamic chart
(see Simulator link below for any new traders)

And again, just imho, once you grab an idea of what the market is doing then you can dump everyone else’s template
and find your OWN TEMPLATE which suits YOU best in the timeframe and the market products you trade.

We can always work out, what works best for us.



Here’s TWO free simulators for mt4 (only, sorry) embedded links in the post below that will work on the weekends also when the markets are closed and you have some free time away from watching live charts (ie watching grass grow hahaa) and where you can also dictate the speed of the candles movements (and see their delta change as its happening) and on whichever timeframe or product that suits you best.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...7#post14676017



So,
From this chart
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...9#post15013849

to the chart below, (I called it "from where to there" ) (see Week PP where the month finally ended)
we can look at where price was ‘taken’ each candle by candle on a Simulator
including any fakes and resumptions into ultimate direction
and any targets/trader attractors that might have been sought & later reached.

all the best to all for the NEW month ahead

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  • #10,659
  • Sep 30, 2024 5:25pm Sep 30, 2024 5:25pm
Quoting TimeTells
I always love to see what New York got up to on the charts when I wake up in the mornings (as EVERY trader would when they wake up to THEIR own charts on a new day) It’s not always so easy to ‘see’ how the market mechanics move on a static chart ie imho it is always best for a new trader to ‘learn’ anything on a dynamic chart (see Simulator link below for any new traders) And again, just imho, once you grab an idea of what the market is doing then you can dump everyone else’s template and find your OWN TEMPLATE which suits YOU best...
Interesting
Never used a Simulator just eyeballed the charts
Anyway off to bed
My chart effort
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  • #10,660
  • Sep 30, 2024 5:44pm Sep 30, 2024 5:44pm
Quoting OAPDave
{quote}
Interesting
Never used a Simulator just eyeballed the charts
Anyway off to bed
My chart effort {image} {image}

Hi Dave,

ALL charts look great to me, thank you, as they give us an insight into how others view the market (which helps everybody then, I believe)

I honestly believe you would in the end LOVE the simulator on your MurreyM charts.
For mainly seeing how the candles approach & then leave your eighths lines and at what time of the day (session or opens)
which may open up another window of interest

all the best
Pete

(ps in regards to your 20 year chart model, which I loved, I found the one where the "all time" high & low price was used.
I wont put the actual price up as that may vary a little according to broker feed
BUT
I found the dates in which the current absolute high & low were printed by DATE for the GBPJPY for you to assess in your own time
Max High for GJ was in July 2008, and max low more recently was in Oct 2016
SO
both would fit inside your current 20 year model - well done )
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