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  • #41,741
  • Sep 5, 2024 4:16pm Sep 5, 2024 4:16pm
Anyone has run a demo with a broker alongside a demo with FTMO to compare the two?
I have done it and in the other broker demo, if I am up say 1K, I am down 6K in FTMO's.
Not very encouraging.
  • #41,742
  • Sep 5, 2024 4:16pm Sep 5, 2024 4:16pm
Quoting 21vs7
{quote} hey Cap, each on their own, right. I thought you are similar to me; to be under the radar on max 5-7k payouts? (2x average payout).. Why would one settle with low payouts with a grim future you are proposing? (still, i do agree on the risks) Its hard to pass a challenge and then just to fuck it up with hardcore bets for my liking. I rather play it slow. I have close friends which trade props for less than 2 years now. One friend is agressive; 27k payouts (more than 10 payouts in this region). Banned on Peaks, Lark, FFT, Fpips,...etc). Monty...
Yes youre doing awesome. But the fact is people are in prop firm world to actually make MONEY NOT JUST HAVING BIG FUNDED ACCOUNTS. And we have a history of more than a year where big firms going under, denying payouts and all sorts of things. Its all about timing milk them as much as possible you never know how long this train will run.
Final point only NETT PROFITABLE traders can only make money out of prop firms. If its that easy to get payout every trader should be millionaire and these firms wont even exist.
For me i am not just yolo’ing instead i manage the probabilities to get the money faster which is not a recommended way. I know out of 3 evals i’ll pass so why wait for blowing evals one by one instead i buy them together and get a funded out of it so my eval cost a bit higher but saves alot if time. Secondly i know out of 3 funded i’ll get a payout out of one. So i do the same there as well less wasted time and more in line to get paid quicker. Lastly always aim for max payout so that way profitability factor is at highest
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #41,743
  • Sep 5, 2024 4:38pm Sep 5, 2024 4:38pm
Quoting OutThere
Anyone has run a demo with a broker alongside a demo with FTMO to compare the two? I have done it and in the other broker demo, if I am up say 1K, I am down 6K in FTMO's. Not very encouraging.
did you use a copier to make the same trades ?

which instrument ?
  • #41,744
  • Sep 5, 2024 4:43pm Sep 5, 2024 4:43pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} did you use a copier to make the same trades ? which instrument ?
no used an EA.
AUDCAD, EURCAD, NZDCAD
  • #41,745
  • Sep 5, 2024 4:58pm Sep 5, 2024 4:58pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} He is just a troll in this fine thread. Bad mouthing and attacking other traders here. If anyone knows where he lives I would immediately file a big complaint to FBI and police. Maybe I would take also legal action with my lawyers. He is abusing the internet anonymity here. Please ignore Expo33. Please do this in your FF settings. It is very important to stop him. Maybe we should hire a private detective to gather his personal data and then complaint to the police officers where he lives. He is a threat to this thread !
You trying to DOX a member? Say goodbye to your FF account.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #41,746
  • Edited Sep 6, 2024 12:30am Sep 5, 2024 5:13pm | Edited Sep 6, 2024 12:30am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} He is just a troll in this fine thread. Bad mouthing and attacking other traders here. If anyone knows where he lives I would immediately file a big complaint to FBI and police. Maybe I would take also legal action with my lawyers. He is abusing the internet anonymity here. Please ignore Expo33. Please do this in your FF settings. It is very important to stop him. Maybe we should hire a private detective to gather his personal data and then complaint to the police officers where he lives. He is a threat to this thread !

WTF is that? even if u were right, the measures u want to implement are out of this world...Unless ur a democrat in America. then it s tottaly fine
Jesus Christ, the world is going to shit at warp speed///

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here s an Educational material from Ann Widdecombe and there s a quote in there that states: Nobody has the right to live their lives beeing protected from offense or from insults or from hurt feelings. It is an occupational hazard of living in society. If u really can t take it, become a hermit! End quote

FBI and lawyers and banning etc from 2 shit posts on a trading site?>? .... speechless
  • #41,747
  • Sep 5, 2024 5:39pm Sep 5, 2024 5:39pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} no used an EA. AUDCAD, EURCAD, NZDCAD
high frequency ?
  • #41,748
  • Sep 5, 2024 6:00pm Sep 5, 2024 6:00pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} WTF is that? even if u were right, the measures u want to implement are out of this world...Unless ur a democrat in America. .... speechless
Is trump's dick deep in your ass
  • #41,749
  • Sep 5, 2024 6:08pm Sep 5, 2024 6:08pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} high frequency ?
nope.
vanilla trading about 5 to 10 trades a day.

I know ftmo increases spread whenever they want. That could be one reason since my ea is spread sensetive. I haven't really sat down and compared trades but generally, it's like results from 2 different ea's.
Not really gonna continue testing any more with ftmo. Seems like you have to scout for the right time to place a trade and get out with your eyes on the trade instead of doing it with an ea 24/5.
  • #41,750
  • Sep 5, 2024 6:13pm Sep 5, 2024 6:13pm
Quoting failinforex
{quote} Is trump's dick deep in your ass
See @Trandy? this is way more disturbing then what Expo said to u

Judging by what u wrote u have G@y tendencies @Failinforex ! However, my post was more about free speech and insults rather then Trump. I threw that in there as a joke, but u must admit has a bit of thruth attached to it.

I ain t a trump fan or biden etc, i ain t even American, but the fact that u got so upset to write what u did, sure says a LOT of things about u. If u can t stomach others opinions then tough luck.

PS> Try to respect the Code of Conduct as you aren t on ur mother s porch!!!
  • #41,751
  • Sep 5, 2024 6:15pm Sep 5, 2024 6:15pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} See @Trandy? this is way more disturbing then what Expo said to u Judging by what u wrote u have G@y tendencies @Failinforex ! However, my post was more about free speech and insults rather then Trump. I threw that in there as a joke that u must admit has a bit of thruth attached to it. I ain t a trump fan or biden etc, i ain t even American, but the fact that u got so upset to write what u did, sure says a LOT of things about u. If u can t stomach others opinions then tough luck. PS> Try to respect the Code of Conduct as...
I'm sure it was a joke since trump's member couldn't reach that far.
  • #41,752
  • Sep 5, 2024 6:16pm Sep 5, 2024 6:16pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} I'm sure it was a joke since trump's member couldn't reach that far.

i don t get offended that easily, and specially on the internet from a trader. My post wasn t intended to offend any1, only to portray another view of the same coin.

Quoting OutThere
{quote} I'm sure it was a joke since trump's member couldn't reach that far.
how do u know, have u tested that theory?/
  • #41,753
  • Sep 5, 2024 6:26pm Sep 5, 2024 6:26pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} i don t get offended that easily, and specially on the internet from a trader. My post wasn t intended to offend any1, only to portray another view of the same coin.
if you are a trader and this is a trading platform, why bring politic on the table and called it free speech
  • #41,754
  • Sep 5, 2024 6:27pm Sep 5, 2024 6:27pm
Quoting OutThere
{quote} no used an EA. AUDCAD, EURCAD, NZDCAD
i did that with Ic markets live account and Ftmo few years ago tho, but all manual trading, no huge discrepancies/
maybe it s just defence against HTFs etc or scammers trying to take advantage of the feed?
  • #41,755
  • Sep 5, 2024 6:31pm Sep 5, 2024 6:31pm
Quoting failinforex
{quote} if you are a trader and this is a trading platform, why bring politic on the table and called it free speech
it was a joke buddy, cutting that part out, does the rest seems related to expo and trandy s dispute?
also, that responce looks emotional from u. relax, grow some thick skin...who gives a fudge
  • #41,756
  • Sep 5, 2024 6:42pm Sep 5, 2024 6:42pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} it was a joke buddy, cutting that part out, does the rest seems related to expo and trandy s dispute? also, that responce looks emotional from u. relax, grow some thick skin...who gives a fudge
to you it is a joke, to me it is non-sensical that this thread has to have biden and trump involved. Period.
  • #41,757
  • Edited 6:58pm Sep 5, 2024 6:47pm | Edited 6:58pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Yes youre doing awesome. But the fact is people are in prop firm world to actually make MONEY NOT JUST HAVING BIG FUNDED ACCOUNTS. And we have a history of more than a year where big firms going under, denying payouts and all sorts of things. Its all about timing milk them as much as possible you never know how long this train will run. Final point only NETT PROFITABLE traders can only make money out of prop firms. If its that easy to get payout every trader should be millionaire and these firms wont even exist. For me i am not just yolo’ing...
yes, time is crucial. Apex is taking much longer for my last payout. And I have passed another 50K account yesterday till now no update to funded account.
  • #41,758
  • Sep 5, 2024 6:52pm Sep 5, 2024 6:52pm
Quoting failinforex
{quote} to you it is a joke, to me it is non-sensical that this thread has to have biden and trump involved. Period.
I was polite thus far but honestly, i don t give a sh!t. You have the right to ur opinion as every1 else in here, and it was topic related. You got a bit heated when u saw i mentioned DEMOCRATS/
So what? No1 should joke or speak their mind anymore cos some people find that offensive? Let s leave it at that buddy! it s all cool. Focus on trading as the politicians don t give a fudge about u or me/
Cheers
  • #41,759
  • Sep 5, 2024 7:00pm Sep 5, 2024 7:00pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} it was a joke buddy, cutting that part out, does the rest seems related to expo and trandy s dispute? also, that responce looks emotional from u. relax, grow some thick skin...who gives a fudge
They can't help it..... Trump lives in their heads rent free, at the DNC, the word policy was mentioned 8 times and the word Trump was mentioned over 800.
I've never seen such hatred for a man that will cause folks to vote for the worst policies you could ever imagine that will do nothing but harm your country even further.
Yeah, let's vote for the worst (by far) VP in the history of the USA simply because '"she ain't Trump"....2 short months ago, I don't believe there was a single person in the USA that thought to themselves, Wow, what a great President Kamala Harris would be.
  • #41,760
  • Sep 5, 2024 7:06pm Sep 5, 2024 7:06pm
Quoting 1odi
{quote} i don t get offended that easily, and specially on the internet from a trader. My post wasn t intended to offend any1, only to portray another view of the same coin. {quote} how do u know, have u tested that theory?/
No but seen Stormy D point out the particular mushroom among the choices presented to her.
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