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  • #36,941
  • May 25, 2024 6:32am May 25, 2024 6:32am
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  • #36,942
  • May 25, 2024 7:04am May 25, 2024 7:04am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Man, this sucks. It's one of the critical technical differences between trading futures (or anything else in a normal broker) and what people did in Meta. In Interactive brokers, for example, you can create an OCO SL and TP attached to a position. This what if a TP / SL is triggered or the position is closed, all the rest is killed as well. In Rithmic I have the same problem you describe. I have to be carefull in canceling everything.
has nothing to do with futures. this is only a difference in tradingstations, how they program in a functionality.
  • #36,943
  • May 25, 2024 7:12am May 25, 2024 7:12am
Quoting montygoldy
I dont want to throw money at APex anymore. its eating up my yearly profits pretty fast.
You’re not alone, there: Apex takings must really have dropped dramatically now that so many people are publicizing their payout difficulties in so many places.

One of the hazards of the business: just a few difficulties can generate really bad publicity, which leads to loss of customers, exacerbating the problem, and then it all becomes self-perpetuating until the inevitable collapse.
  • #36,944
  • May 25, 2024 7:21am May 25, 2024 7:21am
Quoting rizla101
FTMO 15% off. Atm. Is this a good thing or a worry They only really do discounts when promoting a new feature, so I'm not worried. In this case, the feature is a live metriX, not sure what that is or why i need it, but I'll take the discount.
I have also 100k challenge account with them and kind a worried after watching this discount.
  • #36,945
  • May 25, 2024 7:35am May 25, 2024 7:35am
Quoting Quickly
{quote} You’re not alone, there: Apex takings must really have dropped dramatically now that so many people are publicizing their payout difficulties in so many places.
You and your alter ego have yet to show any proof this is happening.

My proof as stated before is to the contrary as posted here: https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...1#post14872361
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #36,946
  • May 25, 2024 7:46am May 25, 2024 7:46am
Quoting Trader191
{quote} has nothing to do with futures. this is only a difference in tradingstations, how they program in a functionality.
In online prop world it's more related with futures because people are migrating from fx where they were using meta and not having to care about canceling SLs or TP because they were attached.
  • #36,947
  • May 25, 2024 7:54am May 25, 2024 7:54am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} In online prop world it's more related with futures because people are migrating from fx where they were using meta and not having to care about canceling SLs or TP because they were attached.
Very true, there is a learning curve. It’s different from what people have been used to coming from FX world.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #36,948
  • May 25, 2024 8:01am May 25, 2024 8:01am
Hello. Does anyone know anything about FTMO prime and supreme accounts? They give priviliges, more funds and there is no daily drawdown limit?

I am in a challenge with them. How can I know if I am qualified for premium and supreme accounts?
  • #36,949
  • May 25, 2024 9:44am May 25, 2024 9:44am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} In online prop world it's more related with futures because people are migrating from fx where they were using meta and not having to care about canceling SLs or TP because they were attached.
yes true, the tradingstation metatrader has attached orders in same row. in other tradingstations iit s different attached, some have netting accounts, some treat positions as opened with connected orders , some same style like metatrader........ always depends what tradingstation you use. with a lot of stations you can even decide to connect or use netting.... or netting at rollover or immediately netting....
  • #36,950
  • Edited 10:53am May 25, 2024 9:54am | Edited 10:53am
Quoting montygoldy
Some BS continues. Good Dammit. FRIDAY turns out to be FRYDAY. Lost 5 funded account which i didn't even realised i lost them. I was done trading in asian. I Just opened the tradovate now n saw i lost em. Then checked the ordered history. It was the same BS. I was trading gold and dow in asian. Gold sells hit tp in asia but i forgot to clear the 30 points sl BUY limit there. Even i was trading dow more so i cleared there all SL limits. What the MOFO hell. Losing unnecessary funded accounts. Probably thinking of using bracket order and open trade...
You are not alone, I made mistake too this Friday. I use micro to copy trades all my $50k PA accounts, and mini for my $250k PA accounts. When I traded my $50K accounts, I clicked mini by accident using the same contracts that I used in micro in my 50K , it almost immediately killed all my $50K PA accounts.
I had to learn from my mistakes too.
I just removed mini from all my charts, all accounts use micro so I wont make the same mistake again.
I use tradovate too. I don't like group trades bracket not working, for that reason I prefer big accounts, I took advantage of this promotion and got a few $250K PA accounts, after paying the lifetime fee, no more monthly expense. I just trade each account one by one, or whenever I am ready.
I know people love $50k, I actually prefer $250K account.
Since my goal is to get paid, I think its harder to get paid in $50K account, you need make $3000 to get PA, then you need make another $2600 , or 86% of $3000 to get paid, while $250K account , you need make $15000 to get PA, then make another $6600 , or 44% of $15000 to get paid, I think $250k is easier to get paid once you pass the challenge.
  • #36,951
  • May 25, 2024 10:44am May 25, 2024 10:44am
Quoting Boulder
{quote} You are not alone, I made mistake too this Friday. I use micro to copy trades all my $50k PA accounts, and mini for my $250k PA accounts. When I traded my $50K accounts, I clicked mini by accident using the same contracts that I used in micro in my 50K , it almost killed all my $50K PA accounts. I had to learn from my mistakes too. I just removed mini from all my charts, all accounts use micro so I wont make the same mistake again. I use tradovate too. I don't like group trades bracket not working, for that reason I prefer big accounts,...

I am using FTMO and will add The5ers, ICFunded, Hantec, Darwinex zero ve Oanda to my portfolio.

Is there a reason why people here open 50 accounts in a prop firm instead of one or two? Is the reason because of mini and micro lot difference being drawdown decrease? Or this mini, micro lots accounts difference accounts are not true for forex props and all of them are the same (for the brokers I mention in the first line?)

And there is a possibility to conuse accounts between micro and mini lots as the above post mentions. If I use the accounts in the first line (FTMO, The5ers, ICFunded, Hantec, Darwinex zero ve Oanda) Is there a mini and micro setting I have to carefully consider risk while using copier? Do I need to verify some offer mini and micro?
  • #36,952
  • May 25, 2024 10:52am May 25, 2024 10:52am
Quoting deroty
{quote} I am using FTMO and will add The5ers, ICFunded, Hantec, Darwinex zero ve Oanda to my portfolio. Is there a reason why people here open 50 accounts in a prop firm instead of one or two? Is the reason because of mini and micro lot difference being drawdown decrease? Or this mini, micro lots accounts difference accounts are not true for forex props and all of them are the same (for the brokers I mention in the first line?) And there is a possibility to conuse accounts between micro and mini lots as the above post mentions. If I use the accounts...
You only need worry about mini and micro if you trade futures, you wont have the same problem in forex trades
  • #36,953
  • May 25, 2024 10:58am May 25, 2024 10:58am
Quoting Boulder
{quote} You only need worry about mini and micro if you trade futures, you wont have the same problem in forex trades

Thank you bolder. Best of success!.
  • #36,954
  • May 25, 2024 1:13pm May 25, 2024 1:13pm
[quote=Capablanca;14879290]{quote} These days it's difficult to recommend anything but if the choice if between those three to me it would be FXIFY miles away.
Thank you for your input, really appreciate it. Will take advantage of their promo and purchase an acc with them.
  • #36,955
  • May 25, 2024 3:14pm May 25, 2024 3:14pm
Quoting deroty
{quote} I am using FTMO and will add The5ers, ICFunded, Hantec, Darwinex zero ve Oanda to my portfolio. Is there a reason why people here open 50 accounts in a prop firm instead of one or two? Is the reason because of mini and micro lot difference being drawdown decrease? Or this mini, micro lots accounts difference accounts are not true for forex props and all of them are the same (for the brokers I mention in the first line?) And there is a possibility to conuse accounts between micro and mini lots as the above post mentions. If I use the accounts...
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if you open accounts with all those brokers , the least of your concerns will be mini or micro..... the concern will be following the small letter rules......

it will be mind burning.....h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #36,956
  • May 25, 2024 3:38pm May 25, 2024 3:38pm
Quoting hayseed
{quote} //----- if you open accounts with all those brokers , the least of your concerns will be mini or micro..... the concern will be following the small letter rules...... it will be mind burning.....h
Thank you Hayseed.
  • #36,957
  • Edited 8:34pm May 25, 2024 8:22pm | Edited 8:34pm
Quoting Capablanca
Surge trader from artist Jana Seaman also closed {image}
What lol she is been everywhere on my feed insta, fb, youtube etc. Now i am seeing alot of Bespoke ads out of the blue is it the NEXT ONE to go down???
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #36,958
  • May 25, 2024 8:23pm May 25, 2024 8:23pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} What lol she is been everywhere on my feed insta, fb, youtube etc. Now i am seeing alot of Bespoke ads out of the blue is it the NEXT ONE to godown???
Same here. All my feeds filled up with the rug pull wife
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #36,959
  • Edited 10:49pm May 25, 2024 8:31pm | Edited 10:49pm
Quoting Boulder
{quote} You are not alone, I made mistake too this Friday. I use micro to copy trades all my $50k PA accounts, and mini for my $250k PA accounts. When I traded my $50K accounts, I clicked mini by accident using the same contracts that I used in micro in my 50K , it almost immediately killed all my $50K PA accounts. I had to learn from my mistakes too. I just removed mini from all my charts, all accounts use micro so I wont make the same mistake again. I use tradovate too. I don't like group trades bracket not working, for that reason I prefer big...
True. But my issue for 250k is hard to yolo. For example i yolo'ed n made 9k then i failed coz of trailing intra day. 15k is really huge target to yolo with the time limit.
This is the second time happened to me first time i accidently made 900$ this time screwed my 5 PA's. So moving forward what i am gonna do is open each chart in different tab like i only trade dow and gold so open each tradovate in different tabs atleast that way easier to track.
But nvm i am gonna try to yolo 5x250K this upcoming week with targeting 3-4k a day.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #36,960
  • May 25, 2024 8:36pm May 25, 2024 8:36pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Man, this sucks. It's one of the critical technical differences between trading futures (or anything else in a normal broker) and what people did in Meta. In Interactive brokers, for example, you can create an OCO SL and TP attached to a position. This what if a TP / SL is triggered or the position is closed, all the rest is killed as well. In Rithmic I have the same problem you describe. I have to be carefull in canceling everything.
Yea i never used stop loss before in tradovate just the tp and closed trades in front of my eyes. Since the apex sl rule its forced to add a fixed 30point sl contracts. Topstepx is way better it has everything in there a trader needs. They just need to make it accessible to add other brokers that gonna be glorious.....
Extreme gut feeling trader
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