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  • #441
  • Dec 28, 2023 3:25am Dec 28, 2023 3:25am
Later today I am going to put up the system and try it out.
kirkleaforex, the latest version is the v3.1, right? beside that, I have to install the indicators from the #1 post, if I understood properly
  • #442
  • Dec 28, 2023 3:29am Dec 28, 2023 3:29am
Quoting kirkleaforex
{quote} Hi Jkinghome, thanks for your comment and welcome to the thread. Yes, trading market chop is amongst a trader's biggest of challenges. As most traders should be aware, markets consolidate roughly 80% of the time or more and then trend the remainder, so it is important to abstain from trading during times when the markets have low volume and no clear directional 'intention'. Staying out of the market at these times will help mitigate the risk of unnecessary loss. It takes discipline though! The BTBA can be used as a valid signal on its own...
Thanks for the idea. Can you share this vertical time lines indicator?
  • #443
  • Dec 28, 2023 3:30am Dec 28, 2023 3:30am
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Quoting Loquito
As ICT once said (not exact words, but very close), "any profitable strategy, once it becomes widely known, turns to perform worse..." He also added that the reason was not clear for him. Kirkleaforex, aren't you afraid to share?)))
That has never been confirmed. There's the strategy from alien, from laura the roadmap, HGI, etc and all of them still behave the same...
  • #444
  • Dec 28, 2023 3:58am Dec 28, 2023 3:58am
Quoting Jumpthefence
{quote} Thanks for the idea. Can you share this vertical time lines indicator?
Hi mate.

The original version of this indicator can be found at: https://www.mql5.com/en/code/12266

Hope that helps.
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  • #445
  • Dec 28, 2023 4:12am Dec 28, 2023 4:12am
Quoting vaczak
Later today I am going to put up the system and try it out. kirkleaforex, the latest version is the v3.1, right? beside that, I have to install the indicators from the #1 post, if I understood properly
Hi vaczak.

Latest version is V3.1, correct...however do not use this OR original indicators from Post #1 as a lot has changed since then.

Please delete everything related to BTBA from your /Indicators folder and then download V3.2 and the three additional indicators from this Post. Once copied and pasted into your /Indicators folder refresh your Navigator to compile the mq4 files. This should work fine.

In this version 3.2 I have updated the available exit alert options, but these can be turned 'off' by changing the colours for Buffers 2 to 5 to 'None'.

Let me know whether you have any trouble.
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  • #446
  • Dec 28, 2023 4:27am Dec 28, 2023 4:27am
Quoting kirkleaforex
{quote} Hi vaczak. Latest version is V3.1, correct...however do not use this OR original indicators from Post #1 as a lot has changed since then. Please delete everything related to BTBA from your /Indicators folder and then download V3.2 and the three additional indicators from this Post. Once copied and pasted into your /Indicators folder refresh your Navigator to compile the mq4 files. This should work fine. In this version 3.2 I have updated the available exit alert options, but these can be turned 'off' by changing the colours for Buffers 2...
Thanks a lot, I will let you know how it went.
  • #447
  • Dec 28, 2023 4:28am Dec 28, 2023 4:28am
Quoting Loquito
As ICT once said (not exact words, but very close), "any profitable strategy, once it becomes widely known, turns to perform worse..." He also added that the reason was not clear for him. Kirkleaforex, aren't you afraid to share?)))
Hi mate.

ICT is referring to widely known strategies used by very large numbers of traders around the world (VERY large numbers!) It is impossible to even contemplate that this strategy of mine would ever become that widely known and used.

Also, this is just an indicator, not a strategy. The indicator invites participation by the wider community in utilising it as just one part of their own trading system. It is open to interpretation and it relies on discretion. There are no defined rules.

So to answer your question - I am not afraid to share. It is just a simple idea I had that seems to work well at certain market session times, and people are free to use it as they like. It is one way I can give back to this amazing community that has helped me in my journey so much over the last two decades.
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  • #448
  • Dec 28, 2023 11:59am Dec 28, 2023 11:59am
Quoting Loquito
Also, it is better to have an open source files, always. So, if anybody is in need of reliable SR indicator - here it is. Pretty much similar to another one, that is used here by some members. {file}
I don't know why, but this indi is not showing anything at my MT4 (XAUUSD 1min tf).
  • #449
  • Dec 28, 2023 12:03pm Dec 28, 2023 12:03pm
Quoting kirkleaforex
{quote} Hi vaczak. Latest version is V3.1, correct...however do not use this OR original indicators from Post #1 as a lot has changed since then. Please delete everything related to BTBA from your /Indicators folder and then download V3.2 and the three additional indicators from this Post. Once copied and pasted into your /Indicators folder refresh your Navigator to compile the mq4 files. This should work fine. In this version 3.2 I have updated the available exit alert options, but these can be turned 'off' by changing the colours for Buffers 2...
Everything works like a charm, thanks again. Now I just have to get familiar with everything, mostly with the signals provided by your indi.
  • #450
  • Dec 28, 2023 12:23pm Dec 28, 2023 12:23pm
Quoting kirkleaforex
FTMO DEMO CHALLENGE STARTING TODAY - DECEMBER 11 2023 Hello to everyone interested in trying out the BTBA indicator on a Demo Prop Firm challenge. I have just opened a fresh demo account with FTMO (see screenshots) and am keen to get trading during today's NY session. My aim in this challenge is to PASS it within 1 week using just the BTBA v2.0 indicator arrow alerts. It is a very mechanical scalping strategy so it should not need you to rely on your discretion - if see a White arrow, you enter a BUY...if see a Black arrow, you enter a SELL. There...
How is your challenge doing lately?
  • #451
  • Dec 28, 2023 1:36pm Dec 28, 2023 1:36pm
Quoting vaczak
{quote} How is your challenge doing lately?
I stopped the challenge on Day 2, I fell asleep before the trading session started and by Day 3 I quickly realised I couldn't sustain trading at midnight on top of everything else on I had on my plate.

It has been a crazy time for me these past few months, so many projects happening all at once, burning the candle at both ends, and I mistakenly thought I could stay up until all hours and do a demo challenge. Bad move.

Once markets return to normal in January I will look at doing a demo challenge in here again. But not until the second week of January when my life begins to slow down a bit.
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  • #452
  • Dec 28, 2023 1:37pm Dec 28, 2023 1:37pm
Quoting vaczak
{quote} I don't know why, but this indi is not showing anything at my MT4 (XAUUSD 1min tf).
For me, it is working on latest MT4. I can suggest only one thing for you to do - compile this file in your MT4. That means open this mq4 file and compile - you will get ex4 file.
  • #453
  • Dec 28, 2023 1:52pm Dec 28, 2023 1:52pm
Hello, kirkleaforex, I like your trading system, since I come from very short operations, I am interested in trying it in a test environment in some prop firm, but I have some questions, I wanted to know if the entries and exits that I am taking are in accordance to the strategy, also if my setup is the right one; I use longer times to follow the price and M1 for entries
Sorry for the English, it's not that good, I'm aware of the updates
I attach today's operations in a simulated environment with r 1:1
I also wanted to know if you have any ideal input and output setup, thank you very much for your time and sorry for so many questions.
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  • #454
  • Dec 28, 2023 5:18pm Dec 28, 2023 5:18pm
Quoting LinuxBoy97
Hello, kirkleaforex, I like your trading system, since I come from very short operations, I am interested in trying it in a test environment in some prop firm, but I have some questions, I wanted to know if the entries and exits that I am taking are in accordance to the strategy, also if my setup is the right one; I use longer times to follow the price and M1 for entries Sorry for the English, it's not that good, I'm aware of the updates I attach today's operations in a simulated environment with r 1:1 I also wanted to know if you have any ideal...
Hi LinuxBoy97, thanks for joining this thread.

The strategy as I originally outlined in Post #1 is a little outdated now. This forum thread has evolved to the point where I am more focussed on people exploring their own usage of the BTBA indicator, either as part of their own system they are already using, or by testing for possible confluence with other indicators.

As far as my own usage, personal settings etc, I mainly use the BTBA indicator on its own with no other indicators on the chart. I only trade during session times where is high volume, i.e. the overlap between NY open and London close. When I return to live trading in January I will be experimenting with trading the London open, as this is a better time for me (NY open is midnight for me in Australia), and there is still some reliable volume that I feel is enough for this indicator to work.

When I am trading I don't enter a trade after the first arrow I see, instead I watch basic price action, market structure etc and only take what I consider are higher probability trade setups.

I do like some of the 'ICT' concepts that are available, so I often wait for a 'Fair Value Gap' to appear and then trade the first available BTBA arrow after I see one of these. I do feel this gives me more of an edge, but I do not have the source code for an FVG indicator to include this idea as part of the BTBA indicator, so for me the FVG aspect is my personal addition. Also, ICT concepts are very 'polarising' within the Forex community; people either see the potential or they dismiss the idea, so for that reason alone I wouldn't include FVG's as a feature within the BTBA indicator.

I also like teapeak's Supply Demand Pro indicator and I have been experimenting with this recently. I particularly like looking at the zones on higher TF charts (M5 / M15) and when I can see confluent zones appearing across multiple time-frames I feel this adds weight to a trading idea.

This whole idea is very discretionary, and it needs to be. Indicators might work a lot of the time but they also produce false signals, and it is too easy for a trader to blame the indicator when things go wrong. The indicator can work very well on its own, but it will work better when used with discretion and in confluence with other ideas and approaches. I encourage everyone to back-test this indicator and find their own way of using it.
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  • #455
  • Dec 29, 2023 12:43am Dec 29, 2023 12:43am
Quoting kirkleaforex
{quote} Hi LinuxBoy97, thanks for joining this thread. The strategy as I originally outlined in Post #1 is a little outdated now. This forum thread has evolved to the point where I am more focussed on people exploring their own usage of the BTBA indicator, either as part of their own system they are already using, or by testing for possible confluence with other indicators. As far as my own usage, personal settings etc, I mainly use the BTBA indicator on its own with no other indicators on the chart. I only trade during session times where is high...

Hi good morning to you. Thanks once again for sharing your trading method here but I have tried so many times to load the biting the big apple indicator on my trading platform but all to no avail. I am using exness and I have not been able to make it work with this broker.
  • #456
  • Dec 29, 2023 2:20am Dec 29, 2023 2:20am
Quoting kirkleaforex
{quote} When I am trading I don't enter a trade after the first arrow I see, instead I watch basic price action, market structure etc and only take what I consider are higher probability trade setups.
Dear Kirkleaforex, I hope you can put these words to the the first post of the entire thread. Because, for now it is stated there that one can just follow arrows. That is why people continue to ask about the exact rules...
  • #457
  • Dec 29, 2023 2:35am Dec 29, 2023 2:35am
Quoting kirkleaforex
{quote} Hi vaczak. Latest version is V3.1, correct...however do not use this OR original indicators from Post #1 as a lot has changed since then. Please delete everything related to BTBA from your /Indicators folder and then download V3.2 and the three additional indicators from this Post. Once copied and pasted into your /Indicators folder refresh your Navigator to compile the mq4 files. This should work fine. In this version 3.2 I have updated the available exit alert options, but these can be turned 'off' by changing the colours for Buffers 2...
Hi kirkleaforex, thank you very much for sharing your strategy and the time and effort you have put into it. Thank you.
I have installed all the indicators from post #445 as well as the template from post #365. Unfortunately I am not shown any entry signals. Only the exit signals.
Am I doing something wrong?
Thank you very much
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  • #458
  • Dec 29, 2023 3:50am Dec 29, 2023 3:50am
Quoting penuelophir
{quote} Hi good morning to you. Thanks once again for sharing your trading method here but I have tried so many times to load the biting the big apple indicator on my trading platform but all to no avail. I am using exness and I have not been able to make it work with this broker.
Hi mate.

I have been able to assist several others on here using Zoom to get things working. If you feel like doing this send me a private message with your contact details and we can make a time to get you up and running.
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  • #459
  • Dec 29, 2023 3:54am Dec 29, 2023 3:54am
Quoting dr.butze
{quote} Hi kirkleaforex, thank you very much for sharing your strategy and the time and effort you have put into it. Thank you. I have installed all the indicators from post #445 as well as the template from post #365. Unfortunately I am not shown any entry signals. Only the exit signals. Am I doing something wrong? Thank you very much {image}
Hi dr.butze. I think you might need to delete that template file from Post #365, I think it is pointing to older versions of the BTBA indicator that have slight differences in the code. This would be one reason it wouldn't be working.

It is best if you just use the indicators from Post #445 and then create your own Template. Let me know if that works.
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  • #460
  • Dec 29, 2023 4:09am Dec 29, 2023 4:09am
Quoting Loquito
{quote} Dear Kirkleaforex, I hope you can put these words to the the first post of the entire thread. Because, for now it is stated there that one can just follow arrows. That is why people continue to ask about the exact rules...
Loquito, thanks for your suggestion. I will look at placing another paragraph in Post #1 explaining how things have evolved and changed.

At the end of the day however people are responsible for their own learning, just as they are responsible for their own trading decisions. If people read the entire thread they will come to understand that the focus has now changed and the 'strategy' as I initially outlined is no longer recommended.

The most important aspect of this thread as I now see it is people need to learn that indicators are only as reliable as the people using them. Indicators are best used with discretion, and they are best used in confluence with other factors.

Essentially, an indicator holds a mirror up to the person using it, and what it reflects back reveals people's inner strengths and weaknesses. If the person is disciplined and keen on learning how to use an indicator responsibly, they will have more success than someone who uses it blindly.

That's the new focus of this thread.
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