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  • #25,041
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:39pm Oct 30, 2023 4:39pm
Quoting pipmaster77
From Apex site: EVALUATION DISCLAIMER: The customer pass rate of the evaluation program was 43.13% between January 1, 2023 – Sept 1, 2023, who traded at least one evaluation and obtained a PA Account during this time period. The Evaluation and PA is meant to be as close to a realistic simulation of trading under actual market conditions including commissions to mimic real market conditions and the evaluation is difficult to pass even for experienced traders. The event is not meant to train the customer to be better but to be a challenge to pass....
The count must be skewed to their favor. I do not believe this 44% passing rate per customer. Maybe it is per account passed and to account started and the better ones just started with 20 accounts and then you get this number. That would explain this.

You see you have 30 calendar days until your eval is resetted and you need to start from the beginning. And you need to flip bit more than once, so how can this be easier with live trailing than FTMO ? No way.
  • #25,042
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:43pm Oct 30, 2023 4:43pm
Quoting pipmaster77
From Apex site: EVALUATION DISCLAIMER: The customer pass rate of the evaluation program was 43.13% between January 1, 2023 – Sept 1, 2023, who traded at least one evaluation and obtained a PA Account during this time period. The Evaluation and PA is meant to be as close to a realistic simulation of trading under actual market conditions including commissions to mimic real market conditions and the evaluation is difficult to pass even for experienced traders. The event is not meant to train the customer to be better but to be a challenge to pass....
The biggest reason is the Futures space isn't so proliferated by abject dumb fuks. Idiots who have no idea why they blew accounts at rollover on AUDNZD. Or why they cream slippage when they yolo'd a limit trade on FOMC.
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  • #25,043
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:43pm Oct 30, 2023 4:43pm
How they can survive ? I think the trick is the 5% hurdle rate when funded. Second the profit limitation to 4% in the first 3 months (for the 50k account). That is the trick. So they can calculate to be or stay in the Ponzi game. It would be twice per month this 4% but since they need around 2 weeks for payouts, it is once per month.
  • #25,044
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:54pm Oct 30, 2023 4:54pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} it doesn’t reset, you can pull profits out twice a month.
He asked for challenge account. You replied with funded account. Clearly you could not understand his post. There were other posts in which you show your inability to understand.So stop calling other people "dump" as you sound the dumpest.
I really don't like your rude and stupid posts.
  • #25,045
  • Oct 30, 2023 5:03pm Oct 30, 2023 5:03pm
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and.........if #6 Apex Clearing is the same Apex it really becomes a no-brainer. Otherwise, Apex Funding was smart enough to use name recognition when chosing their comapnay name.
  • #25,046
  • Oct 30, 2023 5:03pm Oct 30, 2023 5:03pm
how can you use the apex website? is that a joke? I had a nightmare to navigate in it, I will ask for a refund, impossible to use a site like that,

I can't even remember in 1998 something like that. Absolutely ridicolous.
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  • #25,047
  • Oct 30, 2023 5:12pm Oct 30, 2023 5:12pm
Quoting wmwmw
{quote} He asked for challenge account. You replied with funded account. Clearly you could not understand his post. There were other posts in which you show your inability to understand.So stop calling other people "dump" as you sound the dumpest. I really don't like your rude and stupid posts.
Fell free to hit that ignore button and join your Tranny girlfriend.
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  • #25,048
  • Oct 30, 2023 5:16pm Oct 30, 2023 5:16pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{image} and.........if #6 Apex Clearing is the same Apex it really becomes a no-brainer. Otherwise, Apex Funding was smart enough to use name recognition when chosing their comapnay name.
I don’t think they are the same.
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  • #25,049
  • Oct 30, 2023 5:25pm Oct 30, 2023 5:25pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Fell free to hit that ignore button and join your Tranny girlfriend.
hahaha i love your ignore list, I dont know why but i ended up checking it.
  • #25,050
  • Edited 5:41pm Oct 30, 2023 5:27pm | Edited 5:41pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Fell free to hit that ignore button and join your Tranny girlfriend.
Then why you don't do it yourself instead of your degraded name calling?
If you were not so rude I don't care how stupid were your posts.
In fact when I first saw your stupid posts I chose to ignore until you kept calling other people "stupid."
  • #25,051
  • Oct 30, 2023 5:41pm Oct 30, 2023 5:41pm
What's up guys. Having trouble to withdraw from MT5 any clue?
  • #25,052
  • Oct 30, 2023 5:45pm Oct 30, 2023 5:45pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} hahaha i love your ignore list, I dont know why but i ended up checking it.
lol, you share some of the same. They are legends here. And not in a good way.
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  • #25,053
  • Oct 30, 2023 5:51pm Oct 30, 2023 5:51pm
Quoting wmwmw
{quote} Then why you don't do it yourself instead of your degraded name calling? If you were not so rude I don't care how stupid were your posts. In fact when I first saw your stupid posts I chose to ignore until you kept calling other people "stupid."
I recall we tangled on babypips for horse excrement you would randomly pop off about. Go figure you would continue the trend here.
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  • #25,054
  • Oct 30, 2023 5:56pm Oct 30, 2023 5:56pm
Quoting forexbali
how can you use the apex website? is that a joke? I had a nightmare to navigate in it, I will ask for a refund, impossible to use a site like that, I can't even remember in 1998 something like that. Absolutely ridicolous.
Some of the FX prop firm bucket shops have nice glitzy web sites. People seem to think it equates to credibility. Most are teetering on the edge of insolvency and denying payouts.

What does that tell you?
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  • #25,055
  • Oct 30, 2023 6:10pm Oct 30, 2023 6:10pm
Alright so two accounts 200k ready to roll… third one still waiting for credentials.

fxify will buy tomorrow as my interac transfer hit daily limit…..
will let ya know how it goes till now spreads are good on both..
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  • #25,056
  • Oct 30, 2023 6:24pm Oct 30, 2023 6:24pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} hahaha i love your ignore list, I dont know why but i ended up checking it.
Since you checked it I had to check as well.

Wow, Paul and Jota! I miss them. Now that they are gone I have to club helpless baby seals over the head with a shovel to get the same satisfaction. I miss the good old days.
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  • #25,057
  • Oct 30, 2023 6:40pm Oct 30, 2023 6:40pm
Quoting Takisd
hahaha i love your ignore list, I dont know why but i ended up checking it.
-I was curious as to why TrAndy1 was never rebutting Cryptosurf until I saw that he had placed him on his ignore list over a month ago. So, a lot of one-way conversations going on here.
  • #25,058
  • Edited 9:00pm Oct 30, 2023 8:47pm | Edited 9:00pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Some of the FX prop firm bucket shops have nice glitzy web sites. People seem to think it equates to credibility. Most are teetering on the edge of insolvency and denying payouts. What does that tell you?
It tells nothing. Futures is by definition a much less liquid market. the same lack of payout is happening probably with them but lesser because the rules are more stringent and not conducive for swing traders. people just don't get to the point of earning a ton plus the account sizes are 1/10th the size of fx. there is no automatic rollover for fxflat or gbe for example either. You have to constantly manage the various expirations and roll to the new contract dates, which all vary, and the trends are less often than fx so there's less trades! As a business get less solvent , they have less Retained earnings, can't get a dividend, can't pay salaries, start cutting costs and they're in the same position as everyone else is. Or if too may traders are speculating on futures, it could also be regulated away because farmers are angry at speculators for distorting the price, the market is supposed to be for hedging, fx is more conducive to speculation; and then all that's left is oil, nat gas, and indices.
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  • #25,059
  • Oct 30, 2023 9:10pm Oct 30, 2023 9:10pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} It tells nothing. Futures is by definition a much less liquid market. the same lack of payout is happening probably with them but lesser because the rules are more stringent and not conducive for swing traders. people just don't get to the point of earning a ton plus the account sizes are 1/10th the size of fx. there is no automatic rollover for fxflat or gbe for example either. You have to constantly manage the various expirations and roll to the new contract dates, which all vary, and the trends are less often than fx so there's less trades!...
Thats funny, you think there’s better trading conditions on CFD synthetics of futures products. You never hear futures traders complaining of “slippage.”

All because farmers are angry…or something…
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  • #25,060
  • Oct 30, 2023 10:33pm Oct 30, 2023 10:33pm
So these future props are sending some trades to the exchange or are they also betting against you just as fx prop firms?
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