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  • #25,021
  • Oct 30, 2023 3:34pm Oct 30, 2023 3:34pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Maybe yes, but you can't submit the form without the video. So I guess you will have to request the opt-out in a separate email or so. There is no tick or anything else in the form to submit saying that you don't allow the sharing. On the contrary, as I showed you have to tick allowing them to share, otherwise the form is not summited.
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  • #25,022
  • Oct 30, 2023 3:41pm Oct 30, 2023 3:41pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} I chose 1x $140 activation fee x4 since I will not lose them... $2500 DD / $156 ($16+$140) = 16x total costs... I'm in US, ach transfers are available if you have a US bank account.
Actually a better deal than all of the fx props. In the environment we are in now, if one is just starting with props, everything factored in, hands down this is a winner. Everyone must keep in mind, THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR..........getting paid, trading is hard enough and then to actually need to worry if you're going to be paid.......other than FTMO, this is the case with EVERY OTHER fx prop right now. Plus ACH (which should be free) right to one's bank account....Yeah, I'll be securing a few accounts.
  • #25,023
  • Oct 30, 2023 3:42pm Oct 30, 2023 3:42pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Apex Trader Funding - Funded Trader Program Follow their socials for the latest as well. Use the discount codes to get the 90% off {image}
I don't see on their site that you have to reach the profit goal in less than 7 days , all of the futures props I have seen so far is unlimited time to reach your profit target
  • #25,024
  • Oct 30, 2023 3:45pm Oct 30, 2023 3:45pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The 7 is minimum trading days, correct? The max is as long as you wish, but need to reset every 30? Just started studying their site today, so please correct me if wrong.
You are right. I also read a lot more. 30 days is the time limit. It automatically get reset for the $80 fee and not for the $17 you paid with 90% discount. So you need to remember that. So basically there is strict time limit. That is another big disadvantage as you are forced to take trades even the chances are not so good. Too many pitfalls. Once you are funded you pay $85 per month or $140 lifetime for each account. Once you withdraw your minimum, you only have $500 left for any drawdown, so it is very easy after first payout to violated drawdown, as there is only 1% DD left. So basically $85 monthly data fee is better I would guess. But then after first payout you need to do the whole qualifying again. What a hassle, really. I cannot see the advantage to FTMO if I compare with APEX. FTMO is clearly the winner.
  • #25,025
  • Edited 4:07pm Oct 30, 2023 3:46pm | Edited 4:07pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I may have to revisit that but my idea is that all of them are trailing stop and most of them intraday real time.
Yes all trailing to initial bal then stops, only apex I think is intraday trailing. My system over there is 1:1 RR so it has not come into play. The initial cost was so damn cheap I just yoloed the evals to get them over with.
  • #25,026
  • Oct 30, 2023 3:51pm Oct 30, 2023 3:51pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Actually a better deal than all of the fx props. In the environment we are in now, if one is just starting with props, everything factored in, hands down this is a winner. Everyone must keep in mind, THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR..........getting paid, trading is hard enough and then to actually need to worry if you're going to be paid.......other than FTMO, this is the case with EVERY OTHER fx prop right now. Plus ACH (which should be free) right to one's bank account....Yeah, I'll be securing a few accounts.

On top of that you can check if you are actually on a live account connected to the exchange , just put in a limit order and see if your order shows up in the order book , no worries of wondering if you are A, B booked with a scammy market maker
  • #25,027
  • Oct 30, 2023 3:53pm Oct 30, 2023 3:53pm
Also there is minimum profit target of 5% when funded. You cannot do more than 20% of average volume on any trading day and max. 30% of all profits on a single day. So many rules with Apex. The only advantage I see is. That before you get funded the fee is low and there is no consistency rules on evaluation. That's it.
  • #25,028
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:00pm Oct 30, 2023 4:00pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} I had also jumped on that deal as well with 10 50K Tradovate accounts. (Total cost $180) I was with Tradeday and lasted as long just get the 5K payout. Wasn't interested in keeping it. Tradeday has a one account limit vs 20 with Apex. With Apex via built in trade copier its easy to spread the risk across multiple accounts and hit the 3k profit goal within the 7 days required. Now, granted they have a 2K per account withdraw limit for the first 3 months. But that's per account. 2K x 10 accounts = $20,000. 2 pay periods per month is $40,000...
You have any issues with tradovate? I heard the copier can be problematic at times... I'm using rithmic accounts with Quantower which has a built in copier.
  • #25,029
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:01pm Oct 30, 2023 4:01pm
Quoting Takisd
the futures props for the most part are no better than the fx ones. Read the fine print.
The one major difference right now is that they pay.
  • #25,030
  • Edited Oct 31, 2023 2:38am Oct 30, 2023 4:12pm | Edited Oct 31, 2023 2:38am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} I don't see on their site that you have to reach the profit goal in less than 7 days , all of the futures props I have seen so far is unlimited time to reach your profit target
Their FAQ section is a bit of a chaotic mess, but they have a 7 day trading min. If you pass the eval in 1 day you can trade micro lots the other 6 days. Live no 1 day can be >30% of total profits and you cant trade micro lots to fulfill min trade days.
  • #25,031
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:17pm Oct 30, 2023 4:17pm
I read there are 2 weeks delays when your request your payout. Second the trailing DD together with the 30 day time limit makes it very strict as you need to flip once.
  • #25,032
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:17pm Oct 30, 2023 4:17pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} I don't see on their site that you have to reach the profit goal in less than 7 days , all of the futures props I have seen so far is unlimited time to reach your profit target
Its on their "About" page
Apex Trader Funding - About Funded Trading
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  • #25,033
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:19pm Oct 30, 2023 4:19pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The 7 is minimum trading days, correct? The max is as long as you wish, but need to reset every 30? Just started studying their site today, so please correct me if wrong.
Like I thought 7 days is minimum and NO maximum

https://support.apextraderfunding.co...ximum-A-month-
  • #25,034
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:20pm Oct 30, 2023 4:20pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} You have any issues with tradovate? I heard the copier can be problematic at times... I'm using rithmic accounts with Quantower which has a built in copier.
Execution wise, it seemed pretty fast and instant across 10 accounts. I know last week Tradovate platform went offline for a few minutes, so will see. My trades are fairly short and sweet. I do plan on getting another 10 rithimic and go that route.
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  • #25,035
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:23pm Oct 30, 2023 4:23pm
Quoting TrAndy1
I read there are 2 weeks delays when your request your payout. Second the trailing DD together with the 30 day time limit makes it very strict as you need to flip once.
Again with your BS. You know nothing about this space.
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  • #25,036
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:27pm Oct 30, 2023 4:27pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} You are right. I also read a lot more. 30 days is the time limit. It automatically get reset for the $80 fee and not for the $17 you paid with 90% discount. So you need to remember that. So basically there is strict time limit. That is another big disadvantage as you are forced to take trades even the chances are not so good. Too many pitfalls. Once you are funded you pay $85 per month or $140 lifetime for each account. Once you withdraw your minimum, you only have $500 left for any drawdown, so it is very easy after first payout to violated...
JFC how thic and dense can you be. FX prop and Futures Prop are structured completely different. Nearly everything you just stated is false.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #25,037
  • Edited Oct 31, 2023 2:40am Oct 30, 2023 4:30pm | Edited Oct 31, 2023 2:40am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} You are right. I also read a lot more. 30 days is the time limit. It automatically get reset for the $80 fee and not for the $17 you paid with 90% discount. So you need to remember that. So basically there is strict time limit. That is another big disadvantage as you are forced to take trades even the chances are not so good. Too many pitfalls. Once you are funded you pay $85 per month or $140 lifetime for each account. Once you withdraw your minimum, you only have $500 left for any drawdown, so it is very easy after first payout to violated...
They run deep sales on the regular, 90% off evals reset @ 80% off price... if there is another 90% sale before renewal, cancel and buy more @ 90% off

You're the "hedge fund" guy correct? Why are you thinking only +5%, get to 8% and pull out 3% per account. Get to +15% and pull out 10%. You have 2 payout periods per month.

I have 400K @ FTMO and now 4 50Ks @ Apex, why not both? The bottom line is this... we are running out of FX props that will pay.
  • #25,038
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:34pm Oct 30, 2023 4:34pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} They run deep sales on the regular, 90% off evals reset @ 80% off price... if there is another 90% sale before renewal, cancel and buy more @ 90% off You're the hedge fund guy correct? Why are you thinking only +5%, get to 8% and pull out 3%. Get to +15% and pull out 10%. I have 400K @ FTMO and now 4 @ Apex, why not both? The bottom line is we are running out of FX props that will pay.
Yeah, I am thinking. First I need to look on copiers. On Tradovate I heard many bad things due to instability. But Quantower should be good. Never used this. So I need to evaluate first. Second. this is All or nothing trading at the evaluation. Also allowed as I am reading. So one trade will make it, then you know if you can do microlots.
  • #25,039
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:34pm Oct 30, 2023 4:34pm
From Apex site:

EVALUATION DISCLAIMER:
The customer pass rate of the evaluation program was 43.13% between January 1, 2023 – Sept 1, 2023, who traded at least one evaluation and obtained a PA Account during this time period. The Evaluation and PA is meant to be as close to a realistic simulation of trading under actual market conditions including commissions to mimic real market conditions and the evaluation is difficult to pass even for experienced traders. The event is not meant to train the customer to be better but to be a challenge to pass. The Evaluation is not suggested for individuals with little to no trading experience.

If the above is true, despite everyone stating how much MORE difficult it is, 43.13% is much better than any fx prop we have seen....it's not a small difference, it absolutely crushes the fx prop passing numbers.
  • #25,040
  • Oct 30, 2023 4:38pm Oct 30, 2023 4:38pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} You're the "hedge fund" guy correct?
If this were true you'd think he'd be sharper. Simple concepts seem to stump him.
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