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  • #1,421
  • Dec 15, 2022 8:03pm Dec 15, 2022 8:03pm
RickM - switch of dominnce is essential, i think. That is why you say - "be fast". I will investigate it. Obviously there is a sequence - fighting sides - the trigger i think is initiative volume, what i mean is - delta move with price move (1) till the level of delta move price stop (2). That is focal point I GUESS. Watch it - does delta prevail ? is there space ? I think that there is a place to bet - take risk, tight stop. At that point wait for Delta resume or Delta keep dominance + price jump, some form of momentum in price in direction of delta. I would call it Delta pullback.

I do not want to create false ideas, but i will investigate the SEQUENCE.
  • #1,422
  • Edited 5:39am Dec 16, 2022 5:23am | Edited 5:39am
Quoting ffpa
RickM - switch of dominnce is essential, i think. That is why you say - "be fast". I will investigate it. Obviously there is a sequence - fighting sides - the trigger i think is initiative volume, what i mean is - delta move with price move (1) till the level of delta move price stop (2). That is focal point I GUESS. Watch it - does delta prevail ? is there space ? I think that there is a place to bet - take risk, tight stop. At that point wait for Delta resume or Delta keep dominance + price jump, some form of momentum in price in direction of...
Sequence to trade - requires practice to think quick and act instantaneous

My average trade duration is 52 Seconds - E Mini S&P 500
Average trade win tonight (normally larger) is $125 US
Average trades per night (entry & Exit) 48
Profit Factor tonight (have my lucky shirt on tonight) 100

That is my trading chart tonight, watching APDR S&P 500 ETF Trust on a separate chart (big shout out to my trading buddy Dealer for this) to see where the gaps are.

What else should we watch for?

Complete Auctions
Fast Slips
Excess buyers / sellers at auction
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  • #1,423
  • Dec 16, 2022 6:10am Dec 16, 2022 6:10am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Sequence to trade - requires practice to think quick and act instantaneous My average trade duration is 52 Seconds - E Mini S&P 500 Average trade win tonight (normally larger) is $125 US Average trades per night (entry & Exit) 48 Profit Factor tonight (have my lucky shirt on tonight) 100 That is my trading chart tonight, watching APDR S&P 500 ETF Trust on a separate chart (big shout out to my trading buddy Dealer for this) to see where the gaps are. What else should we watch for? Complete Auctions Fast Slips Excess buyers / sellers at auction...
52 seconds is ultra short time to execute order and close. Could you please share your strategy for entry and exist.
Regards.
  • #1,424
  • Dec 16, 2022 7:22am Dec 16, 2022 7:22am
Quoting Indigo45
{quote} 52 seconds is ultra short time to execute order and close. Could you please share your strategy for entry and exist. Regards.
As you see strategy is DOM.
  • #1,425
  • Dec 16, 2022 7:26am Dec 16, 2022 7:26am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Sequence to trade - requires practice to think quick and act instantaneous My average trade duration is 52 Seconds - E Mini S&P 500 Average trade win tonight (normally larger) is $125 US Average trades per night (entry & Exit) 48 Profit Factor tonight (have my lucky shirt on tonight) 100 That is my trading chart tonight, watching APDR S&P 500 ETF Trust on a separate chart (big shout out to my trading buddy Dealer for this) to see where the gaps are. What else should we watch for? Complete Auctions Fast Slips Excess buyers / sellers at auction...
It is not easy to act quick based on 4 and more factors.
I assume there is some bias like you once wrote - "1H trend" or any other.
Each of them is a separate story.
  • #1,426
  • Dec 16, 2022 7:30am Dec 16, 2022 7:30am
Quoting ffpa
{quote} As you see strategy is DOM.
and what is DOM?
  • #1,427
  • Dec 16, 2022 7:54am Dec 16, 2022 7:54am
Quoting Indigo45
{quote} 52 seconds is ultra short time to execute order and close. Could you please share your strategy for entry and exist. Regards.
Not when you are trading a 4 second chart.
Its like trading a 1 hour chart and closing your position 12 hours later - same ratio.


Whats my strategy?, pretty much as explained within my chart above.

Follow Executed Market orders providing there is uptick rejection in a bearish trade or downtick rejection in a bullish trade.

What we are doing in this thread is very simple. We believe that Aggressive market orders over a certain size will blast through passive limit orders and decide Bias.
If we follow the direction of these Executed Market orders, we are actually riding on the backs of big players and letting them do the hard work.
We just follow behind them collecting the $$$$ they missed.
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  • #1,428
  • Dec 16, 2022 8:16am Dec 16, 2022 8:16am
Quoting ffpa
{quote} It is not easy to act quick based on 4 and more factors. I assume there is some bias like you once wrote - "1H trend" or any other. Each of them is a separate story.
Each of the 4 steps HAS to be in Sync, thats why I practise them for 1 hour before EVERY SINGLE TRADING DAY.

I need to be starting HOT, in tempo with the market, fast mindset, and with a established winning mindset ALREADY.


Do we need a Trend, like following the direction of the one hour chart?
I doubt there is any trader in the world who doesn't need a "sense of location" on a chart. All I need like many other traders is to be able to see if we are trading a range or a trend, is price in a series of higher highs or lower lows etc.
Therefore a greater picture is needed and for many traders thats the H1. For me its either the 4 second chart Zoomed out to show the past few hours or a M1 to check for turning points.
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  • #1,429
  • Edited 8:43am Dec 16, 2022 8:19am | Edited 8:43am
Quoting Indigo45
{quote} and what is DOM?
Depth of Market

Its seen on Markets that show level 2 data like Futures Markets.

Its a tool that provides a lot of key information about liquidity, I depend on it.
Ryan however doesn’t need it as he trades with bots build around his maths.
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  • #1,430
  • Dec 16, 2022 12:55pm Dec 16, 2022 12:55pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} {image}
This sequence is impressive. Just to be sure - it is bullish example.
Is my understanding correct ?
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  • #1,431
  • Dec 16, 2022 1:02pm Dec 16, 2022 1:02pm
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/va...t-markets-2023
RickM my be interesting fior you
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  • #1,432
  • Dec 16, 2022 1:51pm Dec 16, 2022 1:51pm
Quoting RickM
Ryan however doesn’t need it as he trades with bots build around his maths.
I'm just not so fast and too lazy for manual trading

Quoting ffpa
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/va...t-markets-2023
Let me give you one advice: stop reading bullshit.
Observer effect
  • #1,433
  • Dec 16, 2022 5:33pm Dec 16, 2022 5:33pm
Quoting ffpa
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/va...t-markets-2023 RickM my be interesting fior you {image}
The site looks interesting, I may have a read over the Christmas break to see if it’s gold or junk.

However our strategy’s we use here trade what’s just happened on the order book, not what may happen in 10 minutes or next year.
Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts
  • #1,434
  • Dec 16, 2022 8:24pm Dec 16, 2022 8:24pm
Quoting ffpa
{quote} This sequence is impressive. Just to be sure - it is bullish example. Is my understanding correct ? {image}
Green writing answers some of your questions.



There is a 66% chance any experienced trader will be profitable after practising the required skills needed for 6 months trading a DOM
There is a 33% chance any member from that group above of profitable traders will be able to be registered as a professional trader within 18 months.

YOU ONLY NEED $5,000 TO TRADE PROFESSIONALLY THE E MINI S&P / NASDAQ / DOW FUTURES - $15,000 IS IDEAL
YOU DON"T NEED STUPID FUNDED PROP ACCOUNTS

Who has the balls for some hard work?
No line drawers or hindsight traders need apply
Don't look for me for help, I have no Commercial Interests
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  • #1,435
  • Dec 17, 2022 5:46am Dec 17, 2022 5:46am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Let me give you one advice: stop reading bullshit.
  • #1,436
  • Dec 17, 2022 5:55am Dec 17, 2022 5:55am
Quoting RickM
{quote} Green writing answers some of your questions.
Great thank you.
  • #1,437
  • Dec 17, 2022 3:58pm Dec 17, 2022 3:58pm
RickM do you have experience with use of cumulative delta (all players) vs. cumulative delta filtered (bigger players) ?
If so, what kind of filter have you used. I understand the we filter only by volume, right ? There is no point in filtering by delta itself i guess.
  • #1,438
  • Dec 17, 2022 8:37pm Dec 17, 2022 8:37pm
Quoting ffpa
RickM do you have experience with use of cumulative delta (all players) vs. cumulative delta filtered (bigger players) ? If so, what kind of filter have you used. I understand the we filter only by volume, right ? There is no point in filtering by delta itself i guess.
No, but I don't see the point.

My reason is a large Market sell order is placed by a big player, it MAY be them buying in or it MAY be them getting out.
If we don't know which reason it's there for, how is it going to help us.

Its better to follow the Order book density to see which side is thicker.
If there is more buyers than sellers, price will attack Bids and turn Bearish
However if the Bids get too strong at a ratio of over 75%, the Buying force will turn the market bearish
Thats one of my key strategy's, watching the Bids or Asks getting too strong and trade against the book. This gives me an 80% win rate

Back to Cumulative Delta.

USE IT TO KNOW IF THERE IS ENOUGH PARTICIPATION IN THE MARKET RIGHT NOW TO TRADE
The reason is we need 100,000 traders in the game spending $10,000,000. Not 10 traders spending $1,000,000 each.
Have you ever watched the Foundation series on Apple TV or read the books.
WE CAN GUESS WHAT THE ACTIONS OF 100,000 HUMANS WILL DO TO THE MARKETS, WE CAN"T GUESS WHAT 10 HUMANS ACTIONS WILL DO THE MARKETS.

So we can use Cumulative Delta indy to know two things. First there is enough traders in the game right now = Cum Delta Indy turns up or down
Secondary we know if a trend may continue = Cum Delta indy shows pullbacks in a bullish trend with no strong Selling orders.

Check out chart below - I use it every day.
I don't always have it in my main screen but in second screen on left.

Cheers
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  • #1,439
  • Dec 17, 2022 8:44pm Dec 17, 2022 8:44pm
Man, I giving away my trading lessons for free - must stop doing this

(I have no commercial interests this year )
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  • #1,440
  • Dec 18, 2022 3:17am Dec 18, 2022 3:17am
Quoting RickM
{quote}
Hi Pete The reason you unsubscribed from me is you read my post yesterday about Booybot and got flustered. I saw your name come up It’s not a melt down, It just bothers me the way you guys hunted down BW like a dog.
Can you please explain your horrible post about BWillisms.
Are you proud of your actions?

Hi Rick,

I missed this little one.

What a sneaky guy you really are lol

Yes. Please post this phantom post you mention that I made.

Or did someone trick you into mentioning something that doesn't actually exit.

Quick please, Chrissy is almost on us.

You aren't just talking trash I hope
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