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  • #1,401
  • Dec 14, 2022 11:20am Dec 14, 2022 11:20am
Is it ?
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  • #1,402
  • Dec 14, 2022 11:31am Dec 14, 2022 11:31am
Quoting ffpa
Is it ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPuY...I6wzho&index=8
No it is not.
Markets are markets. Big money earn big money. Stupid degen gamblers lose money.
If some think he can outperform big money, smartest people and algos using drawing tools and free ohcl indicators - they are degen gamblers or scammers.
Market has rules. They are hard-coded. And market follow the rules 100%. And big player follows the rules too.
Of course there are a lot of scam projects, brokers and crypto exchanges. They are drawing trades and volume. But they are just using another rule - positive expectation against degen gamblers. Greed and fear works very good haha
Observer effect
  • #1,403
  • Dec 14, 2022 5:31pm Dec 14, 2022 5:31pm
Guys i need to move forward and do it fast. I do not want to bother you here. I thought that maybe you could direct me to some trader / course on ordeflow.
Thanks to RickM i started using real data. I am not sure why i had some mental barrier to do it ? It was easy as .. installing Sierra.

So i assume that more complicated tools - as hard to learn as this can be - i also should just start apply. However i am tired of learning on my own mistakes.
So taking a course, folowing sb mindset and toolbox is not a bad idea at all.

If you can suggest sth i will appreciate it.

I know one thing. I only touched a tip of an iceberg with orderflow.
  • #1,404
  • Dec 14, 2022 6:59pm Dec 14, 2022 6:59pm
Hey Guys, I see one of Mooybots mate also unsubscribed from me because he’s probably feeling the heat right now.
Pete and known as Timetells was a good mate of BWilliams and he told me they had a lot in common with BW due to interests in horse racing just to name one thing. He really was a good mate to him in several threads and supported his work on Forex Factory.
One day BWilliams overstepped his mark and Bluesteele posted a terrible post aimed at BW to breaking up their friendship they had.

Now Timetells was caught off guard and had to choose which camp he was going to be in.

He disgusting attacked his best mate with a nasty post, a real piece of trash.
Timetells, you should be ashamed of yourself for how you treated your best mate.

Heats too hot in the kitchen is it.?
What do you have to say?
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  • #1,405
  • Dec 14, 2022 7:34pm Dec 14, 2022 7:34pm
Quoting RickM
Hey Guys, I see one of Mooybots mate also unsubscribed from me because he’s probably feeling the heat right now. Pete and known as Timetells was a good mate of BWilliams and he told me they had a lot in common with BW due to interests in horse racing just to name one thing. He really was a good mate to him in several threads and supported his work on Forex Factory. One day BWilliams overstepped his mark and Bluesteele posted a terrible post aimed at BW to breaking up their friendship they had. Now Timetells was caught off guard and had to choose...

Hi Rick,
It has been embarrassing to watch your recent meltdown on this thread.
Your attacks out of left field on posters this week for no apparent reason indicate your problems sir.
As you were on my buddy list I was getting emails from Forex Factory telling me of your new posts.
I unsubscribed from you just as I no longer wish to get those messages of your new posts is all.

I have no ill wishes to you or any poster, be well Rick.
  • #1,406
  • Dec 14, 2022 7:41pm Dec 14, 2022 7:41pm
Quoting TimeTells
{quote} Hi Rick, It has been embarrassing to watch your recent meltdown on this thread. Your attacks out of left field on posters this week for no apparent reason indicate your problems sir. As you were on my buddy list I was getting emails from Forex Factory telling me of your new posts. I unsubscribed from you just as I no longer wish to get those messages of your new posts is all. I have no ill wishes to you or any poster, be well Rick.
Hi Pete

The reason you unsubscribed from me is you read my post yesterday about Booybot and got flustered.
I saw your name come up
It’s not a melt down, It just bothers me the way you guys hunted down BW like a dog.
Can you please explain your horrible post about BWillisms.

Are you proud of your actions?
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  • #1,407
  • Dec 14, 2022 11:50pm Dec 14, 2022 11:50pm
Guys, looks like I missed all the fun
Where can I find that horrible post?
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  • #1,408
  • Dec 15, 2022 2:45am Dec 15, 2022 2:45am
Quoting ffpa
Guys i need to move forward and do it fast. I do not want to bother you here. I thought that maybe you could direct me to some trader / course on ordeflow. Thanks to RickM i started using real data. I am not sure why i had some mental barrier to do it ? It was easy as .. installing Sierra. So i assume that more complicated tools - as hard to learn as this can be - i also should just start apply. However i am tired of learning on my own mistakes. So taking a course, folowing sb mindset and toolbox is not a bad idea at all. If you can suggest sth...
See Ray of Compass fx on youtube for some free stuff. They are sierra chart users. That minnasian dude uses it too. The vid you posted.
  • #1,409
  • Dec 15, 2022 2:53am Dec 15, 2022 2:53am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} See Ray of Compass fx on youtube for some free stuff. They are sierra chart users. That minnasian dude uses it too. The vid you posted.
I like to follow Verrillo Trading, some real great material especially for Seirra Chart users and also for other subject matter.
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  • #1,410
  • Dec 15, 2022 2:54am Dec 15, 2022 2:54am
Guys, I think that it is not a big deal to choose the broker or the software. It is not the key. It is like to discuss where better to calculate in excel or in open office or in google spreadsheats. It doesn't matter much. First you have to understand market mechanics.

What limit orders are. What market orders are. What stops are. And how they affect the price. And what really moves the market.

My advice is to look at the crypto market. Because forex has no orderbook data and no orderflow data. It is totally useless if you want to check how market works. But crypto market is pretty good for that purpose. If you don't want to trade on crypto market and even bother with crypto it is also not a problem - use it for learning. For example you can register on bitfinex - it has great orderbook and orderflow visual data.

Then you will understand the basics then and only then you can start investigate what software to use in trading. Remember that software will not help you if you don't know how to calculate your margin and leverage.
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  • #1,411
  • Dec 15, 2022 4:21am Dec 15, 2022 4:21am
Quoting ryuryu
Guys, I think that it is not a big deal to choose the broker or the software. It is not the key. It is like to discuss where better to calculate in excel or in open office or in google spreadsheats. It do to trial itesn't matter much. First you have to understand market mechanics. What limit orders are. What market orders are. What stops are. And how they affect the price. And what really moves the market. My advice is to look at the crypto market. Because forex has no orderbook data and no orderflow data. It is totally useless if you want to check...
Hi Ryuryu

I tried suggesting traders look at the Crypto order book to learn how to trade with little risk but got shot down.

Seems those Forex guys are a bit subborn, too afraid to have a look with a open mind.
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  • #1,412
  • Dec 15, 2022 5:18am Dec 15, 2022 5:18am
@FocusWinReal and Guys - thank you. My Sierra charts are based on Verrillo.
  • #1,413
  • Dec 15, 2022 5:24am Dec 15, 2022 5:24am
Quoting ryuryu
My advice is to look at the crypto market.
Ryan (if i may call you by name) i intend to follow your stuff on Discord with ATAS or Quantower (terminals) on Bybit (as you suggested - besta data). And also with your "method" - identify (scanner) + execute with delta.

I clerly feel there is a mental barrier to make a jump to crypto, because crypto is virtual and EURUSD is "solid" as fucking iron
(sarcastic, just replace iron with air)
  • #1,414
  • Dec 15, 2022 5:36am Dec 15, 2022 5:36am
Quoting ffpa
{quote} Ryan (if i may call you by name) i intend to follow your stuff on Discord with ATAS or Quantower (terminals) on Bybit (as you suggested - besta data). And also with your "method" - identify (scanner) + execute with delta. I clerly feel there is a mental barrier to make a jump to crypto, because crypto is virtual and EURUSD is "solid" as fucking iron (sarcastic, just replace iron with air)
The scanner on Quantower is bloody brilliant - it can be coded to show lots of shit.
Also you can link Quantower up to Pepperstone via CTrader as a link. That works nicely if you want to use a Forex broker on that platform.
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  • #1,415
  • Dec 15, 2022 5:47am Dec 15, 2022 5:47am
Quoting RickM
{quote} The scanner on Quantower is bloody brilliant - it can be coded to show lots of shit.
Does Sierra has similar scanner ? It is a hard piece of software to crack.
  • #1,416
  • Dec 15, 2022 6:57am Dec 15, 2022 6:57am
Quoting ffpa
{quote} Ryan (if i may call you by name) i intend to follow your stuff on Discord with ATAS or Quantower (terminals) on Bybit (as you suggested - besta data). And also with your "method" - identify (scanner) + execute with delta. I clerly feel there is a mental barrier to make a jump to crypto, because crypto is virtual and EURUSD is "solid" as fucking iron (sarcastic, just replace iron with air)

Usually all barriers are broken after a person learns how to use a calculator (and common sense)

Forex / crypto

min lot size: 1000$ vs 0.5$
distance: 0.02% vs 0.35%
fees: about equal
volume: fake vs real
orderbook: no data vs real data
orderflow: no data vs real data
Observer effect
  • #1,417
  • Dec 15, 2022 7:08am Dec 15, 2022 7:08am
Quoting ffpa
{quote} Does Sierra has similar scanner ? It is a hard piece of software to crack.
I only traded EURUSD & GBPUSD on Sierra charts so only had alerts for those two pairs. You pretty well have to set them up by the menu logs.
As usual, Sierras a pain in the arse to set up to your own requirements - I never mastered the software to be honest never had my head srewed on with it but there is heaps of online Forums that talk about coding with Sierra.
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  • #1,418
  • Dec 15, 2022 7:20am Dec 15, 2022 7:20am
Quoting ryuryu
{quote} Usually all barriers are broken after a person learns how to use a calculator (and common sense) Forex / crypto min lot size: 1000$ vs 0.5$ distance: 0.02% vs 0.35% fees: about equal volume: fake vs real orderbook: no data vs real data orderflow: no data vs real data
Ryuryu

Its a pity they don't just confirm your data my doing a quick test.
They would see trading Crypto perpetual futures is far more likely to produce a profit that a forex market can.
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  • #1,419
  • Dec 15, 2022 4:07pm Dec 15, 2022 4:07pm
Quoting RickM
{quote} never had my head srewed {image}
good picture
  • #1,420
  • Dec 15, 2022 4:29pm Dec 15, 2022 4:29pm
Today on EU i just followed signals: Delta high with/without price move. Just identify the dominant side, watch for switch of dominance. Thats all folks. Never stop the "executed volume" train with bare hands. Let it roll.

I was so absorbed I forgot to use a single trendline...
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