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#621
Aug 29, 2021 12:29pm Aug 29, 2021 12:29pm

raedmaa
| Joined Aug 2016 | Status: Trader | 168 Posts

This is coincidence, random buying and selling or AI.

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#622
Edited 1:07pm Aug 29, 2021 12:29pm | Edited 1:07pm

deanyakobs
Joined Sep 2006 | Status: Trader | 227 Posts

Quoting BWilliam

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Although the permutation is a large number, the human mind naturally gravitates toward reducing a large number to a small number by whatever means. Read this thread to see how each trader based on their belief go through this natural instinctive reduction process with their selected methods by elimination. This process reduces the large number to a A vs B scenario. Where A is more likely to occur than B. In this space and time when the trader sees only A and B the trader presses the button to execute his trade believing A is more likely to happen...

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It HAS TO manipulate tick after tick all the time in all price frame.

It must happen
That IS what always repeat

In infinity
For his own good

That is Nakamoto in its deepest core
By design with the help quant Algo

And devil whisper in our ear : do not trust deanyakobs, cause He is the biggest troll here and always remember the forex market is too big to manipulate by any one.

Then my flower speak aloud on my pineal gland slowly and said : all of your knowledge is illusion.

You need no knowledge, just vision and infinite patient. Thats all

Happy Peepz
Nakamoto for million a day profit
My stoploss belong to you
All the time
In eternity

Atonement with Nakamoto is the only solution
Amen

Theres BUT
Yes, the 'BUT' things that BWilliam never clearly anwer my questions are :

How we visualize Nakamoto Bayesian probability decision model in real time while he move the price ?

and

How Nakamoto weighing his timing Risk and money management risk at flow of his charts ?

Or

The best things we can do is just WAITING for Nakamoto to show ITS hand and card ?

Is this reaaly true ?
If this true, I think it is too good to be true but it is true anyway.
Maybe it is the ultimate Truth or Ultimate true

I dont know
I just improve my grammar and vocabulary here
I think this thread is about LOVE and COMMON SENSE

Hope BWilliam willing add some notes

#623
Aug 29, 2021 12:33pm Aug 29, 2021 12:33pm

raedmaa
| Joined Aug 2016 | Status: Trader | 168 Posts

Quoting raedmaa

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This is coincidence, random buying and selling or AI. {image}

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#624
Aug 29, 2021 3:56pm Aug 29, 2021 3:56pm

RickM
Joined Sep 2015 | Status: Trader | 2,516 Posts

Quoting deafpostman

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{quote} What are the odds of all 3 born on the 13th., Good for your pops to be active at 92

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To make that story even weirder

The youngest was born on the 3rd month
His father was born on the 6th month
The grandfather was born on the 9th month

On the 13th of the 12th month, at the 13th hour
we eat lunch together whenever possible.

13 is not lucky, it’s my life

Trading thin liquidity at the boundary of the charts

#625
Aug 29, 2021 6:03pm Aug 29, 2021 6:03pm

TimeTells
Joined Dec 2018 | Status: Trader | 4,595 Posts | Online Now

Quoting deanyakobs

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{quote} It HAS TO manipulate tick after tick all the time in all price frame. It must happen
That IS what always repeat In infinity For his own good That is Nakamoto in its deepest core
Or The best things we can do is just WAITING for Nakamoto to show ITS hand and card ?
Is this reaaly true ?
If this true, I think it is too good to be true but it is true anyway.

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Hi dean,

‘Nakamoto’, yep love it.

As I’ve said on more than a few occasions I don’t care (any more) though if the market is manouvered by a …

Singular entity, a massive entity, GROUPS of massive entity’s, or by the sum total of each & every trader pushing a buy or sell button based on whatever market ideology (indi, TA, FA etc) they wish to use.

Because in the end, when a market is moving from one “level” to another then it is fairly obvious to naked eyes.
(in fact I have read here on FF parents saying they showed their children a full screen chart and asked them which way price was moving. And the kids nailed it.)

Yet because of our ‘wisdom’ as adults and our understandings of caution for the “world at large” (and especially price ‘action’ in Forex) many traders try to second-guess where price will go next.

Sometimes price is clearly going up (from one ‘level’ to another, well in my eyes) and other traders might think it is NOT. And they either trade against price direction or will just ‘freeze’ thinking price will probably ‘trick them AGAIN this time’ and they just watch happen what they originally expected would happen.

These are the things I reckon PeterC was advising us when he said we can only bring to Forex what is INSIDE our heads from the real world. We see what we always see, in life, we can see no more. Seems logical to me. A reserved cautious person in ‘real life’ is highly unlikely to bring a macho-person to the table in forex (or Poker either for example).

The market tips its hand (there I said it again lol).
It HAS to imo.
To move price from one level to a next level.
(Of course it is often a good old washing-machine turbulent behaviour before it gets there).

So, waiting is just MY safest weapon.

The waiting ALSO has a sub-component to it (in my eyes). It is not ONLY a wait-for-moment but also a wait-for-Time Of Day/Session, that is best.

And then WAIT some more LOL till the instant provides a good probability for the trader.

#626
Aug 29, 2021 6:12pm Aug 29, 2021 6:12pm

TimeTells
Joined Dec 2018 | Status: Trader | 4,595 Posts | Online Now

Quoting RickM

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{quote} To make that story even weirder

The youngest was born on the 3rd month
His father was born on the 6th month
The grandfather was born on the 9th month

On the 13th of the 12th month, at the 13th hour we eat lunch together whenever possible.

13 is not lucky, it’s my life

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Hi Rick,

Well not only the beauty of #13

but #3, #6, #9

AS WELL

I'm fairly certain those were the numbers that N Tesla said ruled the basis of our universe (or something like that lol).

#627
Aug 29, 2021 7:14pm Aug 29, 2021 7:14pm

TimeTells
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WAITING.

There’s more lol.

I spent three decades with my first speculation love of HORSE-RACING
(where the HORSES were the actual joy - and I'd "visit" them race day in their stalls to say hello well prior to their racetime when they were being final groomed),

I also spent three months in & around a greyhound trainer in Northern Victoria in the late 70’s/early 80’s.

I used to frustrate the Trainer by backing his longshots, and NOT his favourites in some races (and I explained to him why I did that sometimes).

I used to stand & just watch the greyhounds at the front of the starting ‘boxes’ (not at the finish line).

Some dogs would get massively wound up & excited when they heard the “whir” of the lure approaching. They would literally urinate in the box as the lure approached.

But also, some dogs would hear the lure and then “jump the gun” trying to PREDICT the opening of the boxes and would bang their noses against the still-closed gates.

The well-calmed dogs would merely wait till the ‘gates opened’ before exploding into action.

I reckoned it gave those wait’ers an advantage.

Not just over naturally slower dogs, but also the dogs that couldn’t wait and who tried to begin their race too early (before the boxes opened).

WAIT’ ing was a terrific trait I observed in the doggies so maybe why that's easier for me to do now in trading.

Ps and my penchant for short course racing (in horses & dogs) is probably my subconscious reason for me now scalping in day-trading Forex lol and not position or long-term trade holding

#628
Edited 7:38pm Aug 29, 2021 7:20pm | Edited 7:38pm

deanyakobs
Joined Sep 2006 | Status: Trader | 227 Posts

Quoting TimeTells

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{quote} Hi dean, ‘Nakamoto’, yep love it. As I’ve said on more than a few occasions I don’t care (any more) though if the market is manouvered by a … Singular entity, a massive entity, GROUPS of massive entity’s, or by the sum total of each & every trader pushing a buy or sell button based on whatever market ideology (indi, TA, FA etc) they wish to use. Because in the end, when a market is moving from one “level” to another then it is fairly obvious to naked eyes. (in fact I have read here on FF parents saying they showed their children a full screen...

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THANKS ... THANKS .... MR. MOODY
MY KEYBOARD WARRIOR SKILL GETTING MORE BETTER WITH YOUR INPUT.

I AM NOT TRADER, but your words about "IT HAS TO" and "SOMEWHERE" always make my hair singing very happy here.

It all about best random walk theory, n pure probability

JUST PRACTICING freedom of happiness here ...

Even the kid can see that level with naked eyes is even amazing. U nailed it day by day like My Lord Mr. G

Taraaaa ...

Best Regards

#629
Aug 29, 2021 8:05pm Aug 29, 2021 8:05pm

deanyakobs
Joined Sep 2006 | Status: Trader | 227 Posts

Dear Pips miner,

infinite waiting is just for me. to tackle my impulsive hand that like to trade in the middle of washing machine while the devil without my notice tell me to always trade into target.

Not waiting price ARRIVE AT target.

Devil is shrewd and always telling me to forget price entry filter.

But Mr. MOODY, what's amazing is even my entries get caught on turbulent and randomness zone or even long dead compression zone, at the end they arrive at the target point', anyway.

Day by day, if we know what we are doing

Its CLEAR, that Mr. G hypothesis about SOMEWHERE is NO WORDS to me.

Very beautiful mind behind Mr. G and SACRED
Keep it UP

I must take surgeon with my mouth cause it very uncontrollable

Peepz Regards

#630
Edited Aug 30, 2021 12:15am Aug 29, 2021 9:50pm | Edited Aug 30, 2021 12:15am

BWilliam
Joined Jan 2020 | Status: Membership revoke | 2,332 Posts

Quoting TimeTells

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{quote} Hi dean, ‘Nakamoto’, yep love it. As I’ve said on more than a few occasions I don’t care (any more) though if the market is manouvered by a … Singular entity, a massive entity, GROUPS of massive entity’s, or by the sum total of each & every trader pushing a buy or sell button based on whatever market ideology (indi, TA, FA etc) they wish to use. Because in the end, when a market is moving from one “level” to another then it is fairly obvious to naked eyes. (in fact I have read here on FF parents saying they showed their children a full screen...

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Hi Pete, you probably wrote the Holy grail of trading this Forex market. Waiting. It's that simple. That's why I wrote so many times that I don't use any exotic indicators, just check my phone. A child could do it.

But the "wise" adult mind has to "figure" out this market then decide to buy some exotic indicators used on some exotic data with out of this world analysis for that "insider" info to get ahead of everyone else. That to ME is nonsensical bs.

This is not mocking. My point which I tried to convey is if adults are led wholesale to believe in this exotic cheat, then these "wise" adults have just deprived themselves to use simple child logic that's readily available to them. Waiting. And more WAITING.

This ties in with what I wrote previously that there are probably 1 or 2 or zero trading opportunities a day for each pair. I have been consistent with the facts in my posts making sure they don't contradict. Not trying very hard because they naturally don't contradict when told from the same vantage point.

Bfx17 wrote previously the one thing institutional traders can't hide is their large orders whose footprints are visible to our eyes. That's what the "naive" child see. If the adult wears a hi-tech intergalaxy goggles he won't see it.

Pete, your 2 posts spoke my mind. And yes it all started at the race track that's carried over to Forex trading. Hurdles make it more interesting. The one who fly last wins it.

Ps Middle distance 1600-2000m is where the greats thrive. Winx, Frankel, Zenyatta...

Cheers

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Know what you trade

#631
Edited 11:18pm Aug 29, 2021 9:58pm | Edited 11:18pm

BWilliam
Joined Jan 2020 | Status: Membership revoke | 2,332 Posts

Quoting deanyakobs

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Theres BUT Yes, the 'BUT' things that BWilliam never clearly anwer my questions are : How we visualize Nakamoto Bayesian probability decision model in real time while he move the price ? and How Nakamoto weighing his timing Risk and money management risk at flow of his charts ? Or The best things we can do is just WAITING for Nakamoto to show ITS hand and card ? Is this reaaly true ?

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I did answer your question although not in direct language. Yes as TimeTells wrote beautifully waiting is the simple answer that work.

Or if you're this "wise" adult then pay for exotic tools that allow the trader to peer into the microscopic details of price in a parallel universe then apply this butterfly effect theory which gives the "extra" insider info to get ahead of us simpletons.

Ok ok since this is repeated so many times all over FF, I heard you(the first time) and I get it.... But I don't buy into this bs.

This time I use unbridled direct language.

One more thing about your query on bayesian probability, I wrote this post here.
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...4#post13685634

Nobody wants to be bored with such show off high school math. I realised that.

so let's not get into that.

Know what you trade

#632
Aug 30, 2021 12:25am Aug 30, 2021 12:25am

TimeTells
Joined Dec 2018 | Status: Trader | 4,595 Posts | Online Now

Quoting BWilliam

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{quote} Waiting. It's that simple.

Hurdles make it more interesting. https://youtu.be/-WrUJO3tco8

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Hi BW, simple but NOT easy is how I would refer to - waiting.

I (unfortunately, lol) do not see, what I do, as being any sort of grail. At all.
And I have said before, that going in, I have a 50% chance of correct direction (while I do use filters to help improve that %).
I usually trade now from inside one of my algo repeating levels to another. One is always above my line and one is below.

But I honestly do not know if price will be up or down in direction THAT session. Which is why I wait.

(Sometimes, when I look forward at some upcoming news, I can see pre-price moves “away” from what the news might be ready to print. As many times as price moves with “pending news” direction. All before the news that is (after the news is a whole new ball game lol).

So, I now wait until direction shows me its hand (I call it a confirmation).

Others, who are using data, can often see ALL this well prior to me seeing it. And I respect those traders for what they do as no-one has it all in this game, we all have our piece of the pie of knowledge.

While even traders using external data I notice STILL WAIT, naturally, until the ‘time is right’. So many use this function of timing & waiting to improve their own probabilities, while using quite different methods of entry. Well done to them all imho.

I have no reason, for however I trade FX myself, to cast any judgement on any others. I applaud all those who have found a way to put the odds in their favour when trading. That is the grail as I see it.

#633
Aug 30, 2021 12:28am Aug 30, 2021 12:28am

TimeTells
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Quoting BWilliam

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{quote} https://youtu.be/-WrUJO3tco8

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Cheers BW for the greyhound race video link.

Others could look, if they were interested, at the START of the race. And keep their eyes on the two inside boxes, #1 and #2.

You can SEE what I was alluding to about waiting.

Those 2 inside dogs ‘rattle’ their gates, trying to push them open, BEFORE the lure passes and the ‘starter’ officially releases the latches.

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I am always open & interested to hear everybody’s story in trading FX. I hold no illusions that I have found anything more than just a window of opportunity to take some scraps off the table (7-10 pips hopefully).

This all in a trade that starts AFTER a directional move is confirmed in my eyes. And then TP is well BEFORE the end of the direction cycle (which is often inside the later NY session for me).

I am not a big balls trader, and I don’t wish to be lol, for my own personal requirements.

All the best BW, (keep it nice

).
Pete

#634
Edited 12:46am Aug 30, 2021 12:36am | Edited 12:46am

BWilliam
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Quoting TimeTells

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{quote} Hi BW, simple but NOT easy is how I would refer to - waiting.

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That's why I wrote this post. (I got hammered as usual.

)
https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...8#post13677218

Quoting TimeTells

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I have no reason, for however I trade FX myself, to cast any judgement on any others. I applaud all those who have found a way to put the odds in their favour when trading. That is the grail as I see it.

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I have reason to pass judgment on other strategies. We all do that then come to select our preferred choice. I believe in constant progress where tomorrow can be better than today. I posted the reason here.

https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...0#post13461920

Perhaps you are correct about the way I did it, blare out loud on FF. That's blardy rude buddy. Ok, be nice........ on FF.

Bang deano, get some medication for our uncontrollable mouth.

Cheers, back to waiting mode.

Know what you trade

#635
Aug 30, 2021 12:46am Aug 30, 2021 12:46am

TimeTells
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Quoting BWilliam

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{quote} https://www.forexfactory.com/thread/...0#post13461920
Perhaps you are correct about the way I did it, blare out loud on FF. Ok, be nice........ on FF.

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Hahaa, yes BW, I remember those good old Real Or Algo thread days.

Maybe YOU are right, who knows.

We went at it head & head there for a while. And ended up as pals (through the blessed mare Winx, as I remember).

All the best Jason, I know you are only trying to help, in your own way, I do understand that.

#636
Aug 30, 2021 12:48am Aug 30, 2021 12:48am