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  • #801
  • May 19, 2020 10:04am May 19, 2020 10:04am
Quoting auricforecas
Ok guys, I quoted one of your (random/recent) post just to get your additional attention... I have done enough tests already... Might do more semi-tests now... But I already have a glimpse of it... I think we should chase n=3-12 series... at 100%/trade equivalents... In eurusd terms for example... SL20 would seem to go through but it is right on the border so we might extend the room to 25+... Will see in the following days... What do you think?
i think you are right. i'm not really familiar with GOLD and WTI markets
  • #802
  • May 19, 2020 10:13am May 19, 2020 10:13am
Quoting inuit
{quote} i think you are right. i'm not really familiar with GOLD and WTI markets
Ok tnx for quick reply.. Contribute what you can, in markets that you can... Tnx.
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #803
  • Edited 2:22pm May 19, 2020 1:55pm | Edited 2:22pm
Ok awaiting your reply... Current GOAL is to seek for n=5-7 (100%/trade equivalents)... since we are talking about factor x32-100... Meaning, if you deposit 10USD, you can get 320USD out... at n=5.. and 1280USD out at n=7... At 10USD initial deposit (for the series)... we can "afford" to risk a bit more right... But the second goal is to have those n=5-7 as highly selected as possible, to get at least 80-90% estimated certainty... You know why... because then we could risk 1k (out of profits)... to go for similar wave and to get "gloried" 100k+ out Think about it... Of course, holy grail is still n=12... starting with 250USD.. but you know what.. I would not mind stacking it 100k by 100k

Will reply once more activity and/or once I manage to get to n=5-7 again and to show you in retrospect and then the next one we hopefully do together...
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #804
  • May 19, 2020 4:54pm May 19, 2020 4:54pm
Quoting auricforecas
{quote} {quote} {quote} {quote} Ok guys, I quoted one of your (random/recent) post just to get your additional attention... I have done enough tests already... Might do more semi-tests now... But I already have a glimpse of it... I think we should chase n=3-12 series... at 100%/trade equivalents... In eurusd terms for example... SL20 would seem to go through but it is right on the border so we might extend the room to 25+... Will see in the following days... What do you think? What "n" (at 100%/trade equivalent) should we aim for, from your experience/testing/reason?...
I suggest to start with just n=3 like this
1) start investment is whatever you are conformable with. Risk reward of 1:2.
You win. Let's assume it was 100USD so you win 200USD
2)Risk= 300USD reward 600USD
3) Risk 900USD reward 1800USD
In total your net will be 2600USD
This will give you boost and motivation for next steps.
Next time go for n=5
etc...

You definitely have a working setup.
Just do it live without any rush.
  • #805
  • May 19, 2020 7:07pm May 19, 2020 7:07pm
Quoting Merka
{quote} I suggest to start with just n=3 like this 1) start investment is whatever you are conformable with. Risk reward of 1:2. You win. Let's assume it was 100USD so you win 200USD 2)Risk= 300USD reward 600USD 3) Risk 900USD reward 1800USD In total your net will be 2600USD This will give you boost and motivation for next steps. Next time go for n=5 etc... You definitely have a working setup. Just do it live without any rush.
Ok so if you are after 1:2 RR ratio... What TP/SL do you expect? If you are looking for TP22 and SL11.. I am afraid I might provide you so precise entries... and there is spread... If you are looking for TP44 SL22.. than I again, am not sure I can help you since that would be like double to what we originally planned... So if you can provide complete picture, it would be great...

I myself am looking for TP22+ in case of eurusd, so 100%/trade at 500:1 max (with stop-out 20% or less so the trade has some room at least)... 40% for GOLD at 200:1 max.. and 20% for WTI at 100:1 max... That would be great..
If can can either be MORE precise than RR 11 or aim for higher price changes, that would be even better of course but so far... I am in between either smaller deposit and higher "n"s... or bigger deposit and lower "n"s... All down to stat, that is why I want people to contribute at least the stat...

From my testing it seems it would be best to aim

  1. n=10 (100%/trade equivalents... like TP22 at 500:1 max in case of eurusd), 10 USD->10k...
  2. n=5-7, 100 USD -> 3200-12800 USD
  3. n=3 1000 USD -> 8k

Or my favourites:

  1. $250USD->1mio (n=12 - if we can prove it can be done at all, current "record" is n=10 in my recent testing); or
  2. $10USD->40k at n=12...

So it all depends on stat, what "n"s are realistic and what is the occurrence of each... or in other words. how frequent they are (expected) in order to do the math what chasing would pay off, much.

Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #806
  • May 19, 2020 7:17pm May 19, 2020 7:17pm
Quoting auricforecas
{quote} Ok so if you are after 1:2 RR ratio... What TP/SL do you expect? If you are looking for TP22 and SL11.. I am afraid I might provide you so precise entries... and there is spread... If you are looking for TP44 SL22.. than I again, am not sure I can help you since that would be like double to what we originally planned... So if you can provide complete picture, it would be great... I myself am looking for TP22+ in case of eurusd, so 100%/trade at 500:1 max (with stop-out 20% or less so the trade has some room at least)... 40% for GOLD at 200:1...
You can do also with R:R of 1:1
I suggested to start with n=3 because is very achievable with your performance.
I would like to contribute but I don't have a reliable entry technique precise like yours
  • #807
  • May 19, 2020 7:22pm May 19, 2020 7:22pm
Quoting Merka
{quote} You can do also with R:R of 1:1 I suggested to start with n=3 because is very achievable with your performance. I would like to contribute but I don't have a reliable entry technique precise like yours
Ok, I understand... Yah the dilemma with aiming for n=3 is that if we withdraw the profits after they are done, we might "waste" another "n"s to build from n=0 again, so yeah, it is the dilemma.. So it is all due to stat how many "n"s are expected... So far there were quite some but we do not now for future, specially if we are talking about "higher certainty" ones...
But I get your point.. Ok, I will make to n=3 and then publish it here, and then we shall decide either to withdraw or to push it to n=5 or even higher... So will post it as soon as I get to n=3 again, starting from now, will reset the stats now. Have done many semi-test entries this week, LIVE, and it seems n=3 can be done or even "frequent".. but with SL20... it can VERY on the border... maybe would apply this ""bleeding some profits" in order to test the waters" method...

Will post clean/fresh n=3 once I get to it, starting from fresh start now... And then we will review it together.
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #808
  • May 20, 2020 8:45pm May 20, 2020 8:45pm
i think this is must know for new trader

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i know that i know nothing - Socrates
  • #809
  • May 21, 2020 8:31am May 21, 2020 8:31am
Quoting MrSafaa
i think this is must know for new trader https://youtu.be/k4tgmsnJ8nI
Yeah, but pls note that CHEETAH strategy is a little different also... Specially regards to RR ratios and all that "standards" and "golden rules" that a lot of traders use... You are welcome to read my previous posts.
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  • #810
  • May 21, 2020 8:32am May 21, 2020 8:32am
Guys, anyone here... ? EURUSD seems to provide good BUY opportunity, cheetah style, right now. What do you think?
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #811
  • May 21, 2020 8:40am May 21, 2020 8:40am
Quoting auricforecas
Guys, anyone here... ? EURUSD seems to provide good BUY opportunity, cheetah style, right now. What do you think?
Looks good to me, lets try it
  • #812
  • May 21, 2020 8:43am May 21, 2020 8:43am
Quoting inuit
{quote} Looks good to me, lets try it
Just be reminded that high-economic news is coming in about a minute!
https://www.metalsmine.com/calendar
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  • #813
  • May 21, 2020 8:48am May 21, 2020 8:48am
Quoting auricforecas
{quote} Just be reminded that high-economic news is coming in about a minute! https://www.metalsmine.com/calendar
Although both news were good for USD, we seem to survive it... due to high pressure for EUR buy I guess... I am still holding it... Let's see what happens Will pull out at 100%/trade I guess, I'm 500:1 max.
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #814
  • May 21, 2020 9:08am May 21, 2020 9:08am
Quoting auricforecas
Guys, anyone here... ? EURUSD seems to provide good BUY opportunity, cheetah style, right now. What do you think?
Quoting inuit
{quote} Looks good to me, lets try it
Quoting auricforecas
{quote} Just be reminded that high-economic news is coming in about a minute! https://www.metalsmine.com/calendar
Quoting auricforecas
{quote} Although both news were good for USD, we seem to survive it... due to high pressure for EUR buy I guess... I am still holding it... Let's see what happens Will pull out at 100%/trade I guess, I'm 500:1 max.
Ok, seems the news kicked-in a bit later and disturbed/slowed the momentum + 2 news that followed 15min later...
Takes too long and too risky now.. so I'm pulling it at EVEN.. since 2x2 good news for USD... 15 min apart... https://www.metalsmine.com/calendar
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #815
  • May 21, 2020 9:18am May 21, 2020 9:18am
The news (high-economic ones specially) might not have such an affect as they did like 10+ years ago but they can surely hurt cheetah style.. so yeah, would advise people to check the Calendar before/while they do cheetah First 2 news might not do that much damage (since we had good UP momentum) but 2 additional news that followed 15min later.. so total/all 4/4 (or (2x2)/(2x2)) good news for USD... while we were eurusd buy... was just too much risk to take it (for cheetah style at least since margin for error is so SLIM, specially at 500:1 max)... At least in my book though
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #816
  • May 21, 2020 9:22am May 21, 2020 9:22am
Quoting inuit
{quote} Looks good to me, lets try it
Did you close or are you still in?
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  • #817
  • May 21, 2020 11:51am May 21, 2020 11:51am
Quoting auricforecas
{quote} Did you close or are you still in?
Closed with huge loss, would be nice short thoug.
  • #818
  • May 21, 2020 12:04pm May 21, 2020 12:04pm
Quoting inuit
{quote} Closed with huge loss, would be nice short thoug.
Yeah, those news... but at least you tried... We'll have to decide between 500:1 max with like n=3-5 max or 200:1 max with n=10+... That is the statistics of this week somewhat... Also there are bank holidays in DE, FR, CH today... So good that you responded fast, next time we will hit it, TRIPLE+ in a row, I am sure, almost
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #819
  • May 22, 2020 6:54am May 22, 2020 6:54am
I have made a little calc, also from stat... I will publish when I get to n=5-7 again, starting from now... Since n=3.3 has already been published (in my TE in the signature). I expect this to happen in the next week(s)... Maybe even next week. And once I publish it, we will try to analyse and evaluate how high should we go with the (published) series... Hopefully I publish we push it together for at least another 3-5, so that there will up to n=10 in total... And that means x1000 on initial deposit, which is something to look for, even with (very) small deposit... since even with $2->2k, $10->10k.. etc... Or imagine $100->100k... So this is the name of the game.. And of course n=12 is holy grail here... specially if we can estimate it in order to put some better deposit to it...
Can you afford to take that chance?
  • #820
  • May 24, 2020 6:46am May 24, 2020 6:46am
the point is..we must accept loss for new gain..that what i try to say..cheers
i know that i know nothing - Socrates
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