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  • Post #741
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  • Apr 24, 2020 8:03am Apr 24, 2020 8:03am
  •  joyny
  • Joined Nov 2019 | Status: Member | 685 Posts
Usually, after a big move there is a stall/flat...

Look here on GBPUSD M30:

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So idea is to wait for a big move (what is "big", how many pips?) then wait for retrace (how many pips? seems about 10 pips) then we could expect some flat period... we switch to M5 and enter tops/bottoms of Stochastics (on upper 80 enter sell, on lower 20 enter buy). Make 1 deal (TP10) then wait for the next big move.

Something like that... just idea.
 
 
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  •  joyny
  • Joined Nov 2019 | Status: Member | 685 Posts
Made n=4 with SL8 TP10. So this could be again 100% cheetah deal. See my TE.

Don't know how to proceed with group trade... when I see an opportunity I just jump in. Maybe we could do live WhatsApp chat for 1 hour and sit all together and look at charts and discuss "is it the right time to enter" and so on?

As you can see there are plenty of cheetah opportunities with TP 10 pips on GBPUSD M5 using Stochastic (5,5,3).
 
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  • Apr 24, 2020 11:19am Apr 24, 2020 11:19am
  •  Merka
  • Joined Jan 2016 | Status: Member | 1,677 Posts
Quoting joyny
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Made n=4 with SL8 TP10. So this could be again 100% cheetah deal. See my TE. Don't know how to proceed with group trade... when I see an opportunity I just jump in. Maybe we could do live WhatsApp chat for 1 hour and sit all together and look at charts and discuss "is it the right time to enter" and so on? As you can see there are plenty of cheetah opportunities with TP 10 pips on GBPUSD M5 using Stochastic (5,5,3).
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Very good Joyny
You are making a nice progress.
Can you please show a perfect setup entry on your M30 and M5 charts so we can all understand better what you mean.
I get you overall idea but pictures of your HTF ed entry TF will be nice.
Thanks
 
 
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  • Apr 24, 2020 4:44pm Apr 24, 2020 4:44pm
  •  joyny
  • Joined Nov 2019 | Status: Member | 685 Posts
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{quote} Very good Joyny You are making a nice progress. Can you please show a perfect setup entry on your M30 and M5 charts so we can all understand better what you mean. I get you overall idea but pictures of your HTF ed entry TF will be nice. Thanks
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This is not holly grail setup... it fails a lot when the ranging market conditions end:

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1) SELL setup - Stochastic (5,3,3) above 80 on M5 and started to go down (and maybe some seconds stall...)

2) BUY setup - Stochastic (5,3,3) below 20 on M5 and started to go up (and maybe some seconds stall...)

Can't say exactly the moment... Maybe for better entry need to look at M1 too.
 
 
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  • Apr 24, 2020 5:16pm Apr 24, 2020 5:16pm
  •  Merka
  • Joined Jan 2016 | Status: Member | 1,677 Posts
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{quote} This is not holly grail setup... it fails a lot when the ranging market conditions end: {image} 1) SELL setup - Stochastic (5,3,3) above 80 on M5 and started to go down (and maybe some seconds stall...) 2) BUY setup - Stochastic (5,3,3) below 20 on M5 and started to go up (and maybe some seconds stall...) Can't say exactly the moment... Maybe for better entry need to look at M1 too.
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Understood your idea.
Thanks
 
 
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  • Apr 26, 2020 11:01am Apr 26, 2020 11:01am
  •  MrSafaa
  • | Joined Mar 2016 | Status: Member | 15 Posts
what u say is true..after long period time of manual trade yet not get rich we tend to feel unmotivational

but after we can win this psychology thing sure we have changed our mind to a whole new lvl
i know that i know nothing - Socrates
 
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  • Apr 27, 2020 8:43am Apr 27, 2020 8:43am
  •  auricforecas
  • Joined Sep 2017 | Status: Still a total mystery | 3,575 Posts
Quoting joyny
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Made n=4 with SL8 TP10. So this could be again 100% cheetah deal. See my TE. Don't know how to proceed with group trade... when I see an opportunity I just jump in. Maybe we could do live WhatsApp chat for 1 hour and sit all together and look at charts and discuss "is it the right time to enter" and so on? As you can see there are plenty of cheetah opportunities with TP 10 pips on GBPUSD M5 using Stochastic (5,5,3).
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Very nice! Have seen your recent posts and I am glad that at least some are still contributing Did you estimate the "certainty" before each "n" was realised? It would be nice if there would be some correlation between estimated certainty and actual ones because therefore we could really hand-select aka cherry-pick only the best ones for out group "higher n" series, right. I think I could provide up to n=5 high-quality or high-certainty ones... if we can get to n=10 or even n=12 with the help of others, this thread would be complete
Can you afford to take that chance?
 
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  • Apr 27, 2020 9:34am Apr 27, 2020 9:34am
  •  inuit
  • | Joined Mar 2012 | Status: Member | 92 Posts
Here is one classic i trade 5min frame, unfortunately i have no statistics or certainty how often it works, many things to consider, larger timeframes S/R, time of day etc.
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  • Apr 27, 2020 1:07pm Apr 27, 2020 1:07pm
  •  auricforecas
  • Joined Sep 2017 | Status: Still a total mystery | 3,575 Posts
Quoting inuit
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Here is one classic i trade 5min frame, unfortunately i have no statistics or certainty how often it works, many things to consider, larger timeframes S/R, time of day etc. {image}
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Yes, that is nice one but it is hard to know/see if it will go up or down, right? If you can see it, with what estimated certainty? I think those kind of reversasals/pullbacks are hardest because one have to be precise within 20PIPs... if we are talking of 500:1 max.. and with low enough stop-out broker/account...
Did you see this cheetah coming in advance? If so, very nice!
Can you afford to take that chance?
 
 
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  • Apr 27, 2020 1:13pm Apr 27, 2020 1:13pm
  •  auricforecas
  • Joined Sep 2017 | Status: Still a total mystery | 3,575 Posts
What do you guys think of this one (BEFORE pic)?
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Can you afford to take that chance?
 
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  • Apr 27, 2020 1:40pm Apr 27, 2020 1:40pm
  •  inuit
  • | Joined Mar 2012 | Status: Member | 92 Posts
Quoting auricforecas
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{quote} Yes, that is nice one but it is hard to know/see if it will go up or down, right? If you can see it, with what estimated certainty? I think those kind of reversasals/pullbacks are hardest because one have to be precise within 20PIPs... if we are talking of 500:1 max.. and with low enough stop-out broker/account... Did you see this cheetah coming in advance? If so, very nice!
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spotted it just before took that pic (didn't trade it), and not the best trade even with optimum entry, painfully slow 10 pips there. i have no estimated sertainty for it, just an example what sort of things im looking at.
 
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  • Apr 27, 2020 1:44pm Apr 27, 2020 1:44pm
  •  auricforecas
  • Joined Sep 2017 | Status: Still a total mystery | 3,575 Posts
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{quote} spotted it just before took that pic (didn't trade it), and not the best trade even with optimum entry, painfully slow 10 pips there. i have no estimated sertainty for it, just an example what sort of things im looking at.
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Yes, not bad, buy very hard to catch/trade, in my experience, but possible... Found it much better to ride the rise or slide towards down. Or in other words to jump on the existing "linear" trend, in shorter term... For example... if you expect it to go 50PIPs in one direction or see that it already did 20-30PIPs of that and more expected, it is better to jump on it... Much better than trying to catch the complete reversal, even the temp one Those inflection points are very hard to catch, specially within the precision we are looking for... Also, if you expect it to go somewhere, I noticed, specially for "inflection point trading"... it might be good to "bleed" potential profits out, just to make sure the direction was already changed than to jump on it while it is still going counter and risking SL.. that does happen very quickly at 500:1 max...
Can you afford to take that chance?
 
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  • Edited 2:42pm Apr 28, 2020 10:53am | Edited 2:42pm
  •  auricforecas
  • Joined Sep 2017 | Status: Still a total mystery | 3,575 Posts
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What do you guys think of this one (BEFORE pic)? {image}
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A little tricky/risky, due to stall and overnight lag... but it would go through 500:1 max... quite "easily". Well now in retrospect it seems this way but it was a long overnight battle It looked hopeless at time (smaller/miccro time-frame) as you can imagine, specially at 500:1 max.
In fact, this one alone had a potential of 300%+/trade, already! And still within entry SL limit...

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Can you afford to take that chance?
 
 
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  • Apr 28, 2020 12:05pm Apr 28, 2020 12:05pm
  •  auricforecas
  • Joined Sep 2017 | Status: Still a total mystery | 3,575 Posts
Ok some summary... AFTER the RESET.. Not to mention many "n"s in a row before, please check thread from the start, to see what is possible at least... Check timestamps, before and after pics etc...

But just this lat n=5, please see summary bellow:

"n"s (in a row, all timestamped):

  1. 14APR2020, BEFORE (timestamped), AFTER (timestamped); full cheetah 100%+/trade, at 500:1 max... n=1
  2. 15APR2020, BEFORE (timestamped), AFTER (timestamped); full cheetah 100%+/trade, at 500:1 max... n=2
  3. 15APR2020, BEFORE (timestamped), middle report (with violet line), AFTER (timestamped); full cheetah 100%+/trade, at 500:1 max... n=3
  4. 15APR2020, BEFORE (timestamped), AFTER (timestamped); manual exit at 30%/trade... n=3.38
  5. 16APR2020, summary here (entry/exit in parallel thread, all timestamped); 50%trade... n=3.97
  6. 17APR2020, summary here (WTI #2) (entry/exit in parallel thread, all timestamped); 50%/trade... n=4.55
  7. 17APR2020, BEFORE (timestamped), analysis; 100%/trade (barely, but 100% was possible but no extra n=5.55
  8. 27APR2020, BEFORE (timestamped), AFTER (timestamped), 100%+/trade (300%+ potential) n= 6.55

Above is equivalent to n=6.55 in a row... which is about 93x multiplication factor on initial deposit... Think about it... 10USD->9360USD.

So you have seen what is possible... It was extremely hard and I am very tired... It is hard as it is, without the public exposure And not many people contribute...
NEXT steps are... I will do n=5 LIVE and publish it here... Also, the ones that might contribute (as ForestX and joyny), I will buddy them... once I publish n=5... so that we can then proceed... I will, as I have said before... From one potential n=10-12 chain... I will publish LIVE about n=3-5... depending on the activity here.. But for higher "n"s, I will buddy (subscribe to my subscribers) so that they will see LIVE entries that I will not disclose for anyone... I think that is fair.. The ones that are actively contributing should be awarded most, right? The second are those who at least post something that might help us etc etc...

So if you donīt post anything, you might still get something, like n=3 in some series... If you post or at least try to contribute, you might get additional "n"... I might buddy temporary, for certain trade... But if you contribute, you could expect n=5-7... in a series, if I can pull it again... But I really need your help since I want that we all get to n=12, together... n=12 means 40k USD profit out of "nothing" (10USD)... since multiplication factor is x4000. Check previous posts...

So that is it... Until I make it to n=5 (again) and publish it... in retrospect.... and then next one LIVE, if people will be interested/posting/contributing... And if all goes well, we might really nail that n=12... What do you say, up to you... As you can see, n=5-7 is possible per individual, so not many of us would be needed so I wonder why no more interest in this....

Can you afford to take that chance?
 
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  • Apr 28, 2020 2:52pm Apr 28, 2020 2:52pm
  •  auricforecas
  • Joined Sep 2017 | Status: Still a total mystery | 3,575 Posts
One for the road... Guys, thinking about seriously throwing some bigger DEPOSIT at eurusd BUY, right now (have violet line already), what do you think?
Can you afford to take that chance?
 
 
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  • Apr 28, 2020 3:08pm Apr 28, 2020 3:08pm
  •  goldencalf
  • Joined Apr 2019 | Status: Member | 297 Posts
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One for the road... Guys, thinking about seriously throwing some bigger DEPOSIT at eurusd BUY, right now (have violet line already), what do you think?
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Could do,or wait for tommorow, cause you will pay swap,and tommorow,maybe like today,price will try to go down first,just a little bit..still for myself,better to take trade in the morning,can sleep better,and more confirmation sometimes in 4h charts
 
 
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  • Apr 28, 2020 3:16pm Apr 28, 2020 3:16pm
  •  auricforecas
  • Joined Sep 2017 | Status: Still a total mystery | 3,575 Posts
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{quote} Could do,or wait for tommorow, cause you will pay swap,and tommorow,maybe like today,price will try to go down first,just a little bit..still for myself,better to take trade in the morning,can sleep better,and more confirmation sometimes in 4h charts
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Yeah, I know, but the temptation is just GREAT.. Nice to see some response and the fast one! Here is some "reward".. Hope it gets through... Start of the violet line is the time I posted here in this thread... And the violet line is the PREDICTION... Not good time for trading due to reasons you mentioned but overall felt RIGHT... So will see... The lag/stall is torture however... I much prefer to trade LON times... But letīs see I am curious...
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  • Apr 28, 2020 3:21pm Apr 28, 2020 3:21pm
  •  BaxiDevOps
  • | Joined Apr 2020 | Status: Member | 21 Posts
Hi Auric, just arrived here one more chetaah! following the veterans.. but i dont get one thing... how could i contribute here if all you are beast market???... but i'll do..
 
 
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  • Apr 28, 2020 3:34pm Apr 28, 2020 3:34pm
  •  goldencalf
  • Joined Apr 2019 | Status: Member | 297 Posts
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{quote} Yeah, I know, but the temptation is just GREAT.. Nice to see some response and the fast one! Here is some "reward".. Hope it gets through... Start of the violet line is the time I posted here in this thread... And the violet line is the PREDICTION... Not good time for trading due to reasons you mentioned but overall felt RIGHT... So will see... The lag/stall is torture however... I much prefer to trade LON times... But letīs see I am curious... {image}
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Looks like head and shoulders forming,today like yesterday daily candle bulish,and swaps for longs expensive, and,just look to the left side of chart,but I will try one day like you to do,collect myself and just take best trades,support resistant,momentum, even if you trade best pinbars and engulfing patterns easy money,just biggest problem is psichology,and maybe laziness,to count how many trades you can have,risk reward ratios,big job...but psichology is the biggest thing so far, market cannot hide that its want to do,just need to wait,sometimes even a week
 
 
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  • Apr 28, 2020 3:39pm Apr 28, 2020 3:39pm
  •  auricforecas
  • Joined Sep 2017 | Status: Still a total mystery | 3,575 Posts
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Hi Auric, just arrived here one more chetaah! following the veterans.. but i dont get one thing... how could i contribute here if all you are beast market???... but i'll do..
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We are all learning, we try, we fail... If I could pull n=12 myself (somewhat reliably or even repeatably), I would but I would love the help with others... I would suggest you read about what cheetah is about and how it is different... Basically if you can contribute your very best trades, the ones that you are most certain in, that can happen ONCE per year at least, for most trades, I think... Then we can glue all our best together into one epic n=12 one... 250USD->1mio was the original idea But have now proceed to hunt n=5-7 and specially n=10... Still looking forward to hit the n=12... at least ONCE... with like only the best estimated trades... Until then, will play with like 10USDs etc... as starters since n=10 would mean 10k OUT and n=12 would mean 40k out...

Even cross-check help is nice...

I mean I am sure every traders have at least FEW golden trades per year and the idea is to catch them... It doesnīt have to happen overnight... We can wait with certain account, a year or so and trade only the ones we are most certain one and that we might even agree on... Can you imagine 2-3 people would have those golden/gut trades at the same time and very precise one? This is exactly what we need at least... And if some could generate more, specifically higher certain one, even better, but I am sure everyone can contribute at least something... I have wrote about it before... Everyone has at least one special skill, I am sure of it.
Can you afford to take that chance?
 
 
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