CHEETAH Trading (100%+ per trade or up to 500% or more)

How come??? did you manually close or what happened? Your entry was not that bad to be in a loss, even at 500:1 max? Or do you use 50% stop-out broker?
In fact you could pull some profits on top of it, let alone closed at good even after I posted...

Ok this entry that was journaled between this post and now... WOULD have gone through at 500:1 max (check timestamped posts)... but I exited at even because entered a little late, also the guy that expressed interest, was not appear to be here... Also later suggested inuit to exit or be careful since it swung down some.. Also it is very dangerous to enter cheetah AFTER (specially if it is already in a profit, since you already lose some trading room... Please check previous posts for more about that... Also please do not expect full 100%+/trade if you enter after... Have to consider "trading room" (margin for error) and initial signal... since you might miss trading room if you enter for example at +10PIPs already... and maybe it swings down to (initial signal -10PIPs) and wipe you... but you could be ok if you entered at the signal.. since if you enter at +10PIP (from the signal)... and ti swings to -10PIP... that is 10PIP (you would still have good room for error, specially at low-stop-out broker.. but if you entered at +10 and it swings to -10... that would be -20PIP from your point of entry and wipe you... Also price might reach +20-22PIP from the signal.. (which would be around 100%/trade at 500:1 max) and then it price go counter (after TP would be hit from initial signal)... but if you enter at +10 from signal and still expect (additional) +22POP from that.. you could be wiped... Just hope that is clear...

Anyway, ENTR would be hit, 100%+/trade could be achieved... But if we would enter sooner, it wold be cleaner... I myself exited at even.. The guy that showed initial interest in live signal, didn't respond... The inuit joined/enter later... suggested exit to him (or carefulness) since he entered some high and also uncertainty increased...

But in retrospect, I think it would be best to SET and FORGET.. I closed (at even) because it came CLOSE to stop-out almost... Also having additional public pressure of public display + potential responsibility for the loses of someone else.. was just too much, at least this time.

inuit, you had the balls to go cheetah... congrats... All for the stats... The next time we enter cleaner and then WAIT till the end right See you next time.
BTW your entry price was profitable at 500:1 max! If you had the broker with 20% stop-out for example, as I am using.... But I understand, it seemed risky (to stay) at the time. I hope it gives us the confidence/motivation for the next time!

BTW, you can see how this signal WOULD went (from controlling parallel tracking chart that I use)... You can see that it was risky, but could go through.. Just couldn't afford to take that chance, not this time, specially with other involved.

Guys, prepared for another one?

sure

Tnx for the like... Made a calculations with 2 outcomes (the 2nd one being the ALTERNATE/vent one and it seems to hold!) so not entering right now..
Also not optimal, in fact not good at all, this part of the day, also swaps coming soon... Will have to skip it... Prefer to trade CLEAN ones, with 80%+ certainty..
This one would be about 60% so would prefer to skip it...

Anyway, will be doing some trials for stat, privately, this week, and will report the outcome (by) the end of the week...
It is even possible to reach n=10+ again... If could only reach n=10 once again, then I would be almost sure it could happen again (and even again).
Remember, we are talking about factor x1000.. And if starting only with 10USD per series-entry.. that is not much to lose but could win epic outcomes...
Suppose the worst thing would be to start with 10usd, get n=10, so x1000 and then be depressed why didn't "invest" more But yeah, it is maybe already clear that this cheetahs might be (far) too "common" that initially thought so 10USD would be enough... And also! Since we discussed it so many times... This would be within standard (broker) LOT limit In fact, at n=10... 40USD would be optimal deposit for not remotely worrying about LOT size limit in one of the most standard accounts, at one of the brokers at least... But yeah, at risking 40USD/trade... would at least need to expect/estimate after how many trials n=10 is "realistically" expected...
But 1-10USD, we could risk much more without even thinking about it right

Ok, what I am observing ATM!
I do not suggest you enter it... but just for you to observe what happens in LIVE market.. PREDICTED vs ACTUAL...
VIOLET line is where market "should go" if things would be OPTIMAL... Blue line is ALTERNATE "reality" in case some lag, delay, depressure, anomaly...
But so far it returned to VIOLET eventually... The question, for CHEETAH.. is.... Can we do ENTRY precisely, at 500:1 max, at 20% stop-out (for wider "turning radious).

So FOR your INFO only, NOT a trading tip, not this time!

BEFORE PIC (for informational purposes only; at least this time)... LIVE SNAPSHOT, right now

Basically I have (almost) no doubt, that the price will surpass the violet line end-point... But we are talking about CHEETAH here.. so not attacking at this tall/uncertain/slowAF market, right now... But will post you the AFTER pic... WHEN line will surpass, even without cheetah...

BTW the good thing about cheetah also is that you could BOOST your "normal" trading as well.. Because for example, even those failed cheetah attempts could be PURE gold for "normal" trading

Previous (ongoing) chart followed the blue line so that tells you that something is OFF in the market(s). Not hard to guess what, right...
Here is another LIVE chart.. Let's see which line it would follow... VIOLET for market "working", at least a bit, after this heavy drop... or we continue to be in distortion...

LIVE update

And END.. Impressive! Very! Imagine if we can replicate n=10 of this ones!
Very clean and this one was 35PIP+ so about 157%+/trade!

So it appears market "working" now, after that drop.. but will see...

Imagine, just 10 of those in a row, starting with 100USD and we could "retire".
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%24100*2.57%5E10

Hope you liked being witness of this LIVE timestamped, live snapshoted market! Yeah after that disappointing drop but now even bigger opportunities seems to be coming, if this last one is being judged... Checked the last 3 posts and cross-check with market data... I am impressed... Hope we can get 10 of those in a row...
Even starting with 10USD that would be 125k USD out! Which would also give us many "shots" to target with 100USD the next time (if more are possible) or more or higher "n"s...
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%2410*2.57%5E10

Still waiting for my synthetic asset drawdown in my signal account A to turn on the copy in investment account B with cheetah:



I will have only 3-5 signals for an entry per year. From backtests 10 years history there were 40 all 100% winning signals (posted stats before in this thread).

I saw mrdfx failed on his journey... was quite a good attempt.

Tnx for posting! I thought the thread died Btw I am in the eurusd BUY ATM (cheetah style)! LIVE! Just not sure when to pull out... In general would do at 100%/trade but this time I see strong potential...

Can you sum up his attempts/record/stat just to have some data... What was his record "n" (100%/ttrade) equivalent?... How man of those n did he get, occurance?
I need this for stat... Because if this n=10+ would be more frequent then initial expected, then even 2.5-10USD "investment" per try (for the series) would be enough...

I took it at 100%/trade because this "take-off" is still rather uncertain, but if it happens... will attack in series! Atm it seems we are in a TAIL STRIKE takeoff, so we will see. Watching it closely.

not possible. he removed TE.

But do you remember, at least some glimpse... For either for us to have some idea what was possible, what was the occurrence, anything?

EURUSD seems to be in a free fall atm!

Entered CHEETAH btw... in tarde now, 500:1 max! eurusd SELL

Took 100%/trade, but was hoping for more... just can't risk it, too uncertain...

Guys, due to inactivity in this thread, won't be publishing (signals etc.) anymore for now, because this kind of trading is very very intense as it is, without the pressure of live posting, in parallel...
So will/might be back posting in this thread, if I come to some record/considerable "n"s (again) or "lower" "n" in great(er) occurrence.

I wanted to motivate you with posts/charts/signals (BEFORE, AFTER) and also with LIVE TE, but apparently only made users more passive, awaiting signals or not interested at all.. I also explained the whole cheetah philosophy, some examples, tools that appeared to be helpful, so please read the thread, if you would like to know more since the same (irrelevant) questions are keep popping out, that have been answered many times... Please post your signals, stat or whatever, so we can really benefit from this.

So see you when/if more activity or higher "n"s will be seen.
If you are interested in my more general WTI or/and GOLD trading... You can find me in those threads...
Will be also posting in other threads (from others also) in EE and MM in the meantime.

EDIT: Current findings

1. n=10 - current record (at 100%+/trade) in a row is possible, at least in eurusd market at 500:1 leverage, spread bellow 2PIP, 20% stop-out
2. n=5-7 are, as expected, some more frequent than n=10 but, as in n=10, still to little statistics to know the occurrence and to know how many fails before n=5-7 is expected
3. due to the higher expected "occurrence" of "n"s, than initially expected... lower deposit(s) might be suggested...

    

   1. with 2.25 USD deposit (0.01lot in case of EURUSD), it is expected to get about $2300 USD out at n=10 (at 100%/trade) which is roughly 22PIP/trade profit at current market. https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%242.25*2%5E10 One n=10 hit at initial 2.25USD deposit would give us another 1000 trials... So basically we would have to strike n=10 once in about every 1000 trials in order to break even.
   2. with 10 USD deposit, it is expected to get about $10240 USD out at n=10 (at 100%/trade) which is roughly 22PIP/trade profit at current market. https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%2410*2%5E10

   
   

4. n=12 still wasn't proven (at least not by me, knowingly, from thread start).. So we are awaiting if it is possible and how many can we expect, per year for example...
   1. with 10 USD deposit, it is expected to get about $40960 USD out at n=12 (at 100%/trade) which is roughly 22PIP/trade profit at current market. https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%2410*2%5E12
   2. with 250 USD deposit, it is expected to get about $1.024 million USD out at n=12 (at 100%/trade) which is roughly 22PIP/trade profit at current market. https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=%24250*2%5E12 But would have to be pretty certain to try with 250USD/trial OR do that from profits and not from own money... unless very high certainty per trade is expected and estimates certainty vs actual was somewhat already proven to be correlated a good deal. That would be the holly grail, for this system/strategy at least. But I am sure we wouldn't mind to glue together lower ns or higher ns with lower initial deposit... That way we won't have a "problem" with LOT size, at some standard broker accounts..

Please read the thread (from start) for more info. Above is just a summary.

The bottom line is that we need either lower "n"s with great(er) occurrence or some hope that n=10 is repeatable and/or n=12 is achievable...
We would then need to see if we the missed attempts would be paid off by the HIT..

So will be building stat now, on my own, since not many are interesting in participating... Hope to reach n=10 again or even confirm n=12 or higher. Also expect
to have some clue about the occurrence of certain "n"s etc...

Take care.