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  • #1
  • First Post: Jan 13, 2018 8:13am Jan 13, 2018 8:13am
Everything is in the title. What's your average risk per trade % ?
i lose money for a living
  • #2
  • Jan 13, 2018 12:10pm Jan 13, 2018 12:10pm
https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=175224
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  • #3
  • Jan 16, 2018 2:15am Jan 16, 2018 2:15am
I am up to 5% on a trade with a strong trend. Minimum is 2%.
  • #4
  • Jan 16, 2018 2:21am Jan 16, 2018 2:21am
2-5%.
  • #5
  • Jan 16, 2018 8:21am Jan 16, 2018 8:21am
Quoting tylerbose
Everything is in the title. What's your average risk per trade % ?
Well; I take only 1% risk reward ratio in per trade! Yes, I am using such a small %, because my strategy provides me only 65-68% success ratio!
  • #6
  • Jan 16, 2018 8:27am Jan 16, 2018 8:27am
around 30/40%
  • #7
  • Jan 16, 2018 11:10am Jan 16, 2018 11:10am
Quoting havo
around 30/40%

Are we talking about the same thing? I mean (and I think we all mean) the % of the account capital that would be lost if the stop-loss was hit directly after entry.
  • #8
  • Jan 16, 2018 11:20am Jan 16, 2018 11:20am
Quoting tomorton
{quote} Are we talking about the same thing? I mean (and I think we all mean) the % of the account capital that would be lost if the stop-loss was hit directly after entry.
yes.. around 30% of capital per trade in average (40 if its a perfect entry); but ONLY because i have a VERY high hit rate.. not recomended if you cant achieve it

30% per trade 1:1 RR
  • #9
  • Jan 16, 2018 11:33am Jan 16, 2018 11:33am
Quoting havo
{quote} yes.. around 30% of capital per trade in average (40 if its a perfect entry); but ONLY because i have a VERY high hit rate.. not recomended if you cant achieve it 30% per trade 1:1 RR
You blow are account with just 2-3 losses in a row?
  • #10
  • Jan 16, 2018 11:44am Jan 16, 2018 11:44am
Quoting yalgaar
{quote} You blow are account with just 2-3 losses in a row?
No, i never blow accounts; if i ever lose its covered/turned positive quickly by a new trade (always 1:1), like i said i have a VERY high TP hit rate with my aproach; also NO !! you cant blow an account if you trade % based of capital !! do the math and see it for yourself (long term myth on trading)
  • #11
  • Jan 16, 2018 11:51am Jan 16, 2018 11:51am
Quoting havo
{quote} No, i never blow accounts; if i ever lose its covered/turned positive quickly by a new trade (always 1:1), like i said i have a VERY high TP hit rate with my aproach; also NO !! you cant blow an account if you trade % based of capital !! do the math and see it for yourself (long term myth on trading)
if you are really risking 30%-40% of your capital for each trade and you are not blowing your account, I really worship you for your trading performance!!

I am still curious if you do compounding? How long have you traded this way? You mention you have a very high TP hit rate, what would that rate be?
  • #12
  • Jan 16, 2018 11:59am Jan 16, 2018 11:59am
Quoting yalgaar
{quote} if you are really risking 30%-40% of your capital for each trade and you are not blowing your account, I really worship you for your trading performance!! I am still curious if you do compounding? How long have you traded this way? You mention you have a very high TP hit rate, what would that rate be?
With this higher % like 5 months.. prior to that i was using 3/5% but i didnt "fine" tuned my aproach; compounding?? just the regular "compound" you get in every new trade with a new "bigger" capital, the % per trade gets bigger, etc you know the drill

Keep in mind that i dont trade like everyone its used too, i ALWAYS leave pips on the table, i dont care trends, i dont go for big "R:R" ratios, etc etc.. i only enter when there is and "unbalance" and i catch a move in 1 direction with a 1:1 ratio thats all

% hit rate its VERY high
  • #13
  • Jan 16, 2018 12:29pm Jan 16, 2018 12:29pm
Considering you got a winning strategy, you have to calculate it first, get the optimal position size to make the desired profit, but keeping a certain risk profile (sometimes demanded by clients), drawdown, deviation, skewness, kurtosis... then adjust it depending mainly on your personality. But you have to know that and that's hard, because only if you have tried many, many years all kinds of stuff you'll get closer to knowing what you can do. Also it's one think to calculate a 20% draw down in excel and another one to actually trade through it with real money,especially a big account. Add to this idea the fact that banks have specialized teams, with risk managers that took university courses and have many years of experience that calculate this "risk per trade", we have to do it all ourselves.
  • #14
  • Jan 16, 2018 2:47pm Jan 16, 2018 2:47pm
Quoting havo
{quote} With this higher % like 5 months.. prior to that i was using 3/5% but i didnt "fine" tuned my aproach; compounding?? just the regular "compound" you get in every new trade with a new "bigger" capital, the % per trade gets bigger, etc you know the drill Keep in mind that i dont trade like everyone its used too, i ALWAYS leave pips on the table, i dont care trends, i dont go for big "R:R" ratios, etc etc.. i only enter when there is and "unbalance" and i catch a move in 1 direction with a 1:1 ratio thats all % hit rate its VERY high

so what do you consider an "unbalance"............examples would be nice!
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  • #15
  • Jan 16, 2018 3:27pm Jan 16, 2018 3:27pm
Quoting COGSx86
{quote} so what do you consider an "unbalance"............examples would be nice!
a failed attempt to move/keep moving in 1 direction then it reverse.. Its like when you hit the brakes on a moving car; it will not stop right away it will keep moving a few meters; that extra few meters its what i catch everytime

EDIT: the "unbalance" its what i measure, THEN i take the entry if its there very clear all the time, either its valid or is not a setup
  • #16
  • Jan 16, 2018 8:37pm Jan 16, 2018 8:37pm
Quoting havo
{quote} With this higher % like 5 months.. prior to that i was using 3/5% but i didnt "fine" tuned my aproach; compounding?? just the regular "compound" you get in every new trade with a new "bigger" capital, the % per trade gets bigger, etc you know the drill Keep in mind that i dont trade like everyone its used too, i ALWAYS leave pips on the table, i dont care trends, i dont go for big "R:R" ratios, etc etc.. i only enter when there is and "unbalance" and i catch a move in 1 direction with a 1:1 ratio thats all % hit rate its VERY high
how high is very high?
  • #17
  • Jan 17, 2018 9:15am Jan 17, 2018 9:15am
Quoting yalgaar
{quote} how high is very high?
If i keep talking about how i trade i will derail this thread, im not going to do it; i was clear how much i risk and why wich its the reason of this thread anyway, keep the talk about the main question
  • #18
  • Jan 17, 2018 10:13am Jan 17, 2018 10:13am
Quoting havo
{quote} a failed attempt to move/keep moving in 1 direction then it reverse.. Its like when you hit the brakes on a moving car; it will not stop right away it will keep moving a few meters; that extra few meters its what i catch everytime EDIT: the "unbalance" its what i measure, THEN i take the entry if its there very clear all the time, either its valid or is not a setup

Hoping for you to show some examples on a chart, I was, and worry about derailing the thread, do not, where the thread has led us, these concepts are. Yes, hmmm.
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  • #19
  • Jan 19, 2018 3:24pm Jan 19, 2018 3:24pm
Quoting havo
{quote} a failed attempt to move/keep moving in 1 direction then it reverse.. Its like when you hit the brakes on a moving car; it will not stop right away it will keep moving a few meters; that extra few meters its what i catch everytime EDIT: the "unbalance" its what i measure, THEN i take the entry if its there very clear all the time, either its valid or is not a setup
Hi Havo,

Where do you put your stop loss? Justo above/below your "unbalance" range bar?

And your TP? Is it fixed? By how many pips from the entrance point?

Thanks in advance

Regards
  • #20
  • Jan 20, 2018 5:07pm Jan 20, 2018 5:07pm
Quoting Swnlobo
{quote} Hi Havo, Where do you put your stop loss? Justo above/below your "unbalance" range bar?
somewhat yes.. it could be in 2 different points, depends on the moment

Quoting Swnlobo
And your TP? Is it fixed?
1:1

Quoting Swnlobo
By how many pips from the entrance point? Thanks in advance Regards
depends on the range =)
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