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Hold The Gold

Quoting MoneyZilla
Today we had a TIME flip from a buy at 1398.60 to a sell at 1418.72. +200 pips for the buy vs... lets see how many pips the time flip will give to the sell?
The time flipped the sell at 1418.72 to a buy at 1411.14. +75 pips for the sells.
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Still, we can't go anywhere near the pips generated ahead by the positive buy time flips. In the big XAU tread they are saying we are in a downtrend at the moment. I hope they are right about that.

Probably here we will see some negative time flips in between the buys and the sells? It smells like a small range. I hope I am wrong, but... Going back down to 1404 or something seems possible. Who cares, we are building up a trend portfolio? Buying some bottoms (1 or 2 for the day) does not sound a very bad idea to me.

Here is the daily reset. The flips are reclined, as if it will going down. The buy reclines do point down, while the sell reclines do point up, as it is now. This is just an indication, not a rule...
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Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
Quoting MoneyZilla
.... Not really keen on sharing them. They are no secret. Not at all. Everyone can find them. But it takes hard work to spot them. ...
How disappointingly predictable.

Most (if not all) Trend definitions are painfully slow and usually extreme in their lag. Again, learning to find when price is changing is by far the most profitable. Trend-Schmend...trade the current move. As you are thinking Long term have you considered that over the last 3 years gold has been ranging...not trending?
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Quoting DonPato
{quote} How disappointingly predictable.
You should read the opening post. I share almost nothing. So... keep on predicting!

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Most (if not all) Trend definitions are painfully slow and usually extreme in their lag. Again, learning to find when price is changing is by far the most profitable. Trend-Schmend...trade the current move. As you are thinking Long term have you considered that over the last 3 years gold has been ranging...not trending?
Again, all one needs is a simple flat line, to start with, to catch a trend.

Each annual trend, within the 5-6 years of range, you are referring to, is nearly $200+ wide. With 20% of all D1, W1 and MN "flying" candles within. Safe exit is when 80% of that delta gets reached... What is that is puzzling you?
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
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Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
Quoting MoneyZilla
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Come on man You had to do it didn't you You confirmed my thoughts
I just knew it you were the burner type - in a good way.)

I think you made a good decision by posting here your trade (plan) because I think that your awesome energy, turbulent character, out of the box (insides) COMBINED with some of the stable/reliable people here.. could make some glorious, balanced profits (trading the plan and avoiding temptations, not chasing the loses etc.) I have a feeling, specially after reading/checked your profile that you have some extraordinary earning potential but the money goes (faster) as (than) it came... should we find a way to HOLD some of it, you could (become and) STAY a millionaire for quite some time
Can you afford to take that chance?
Quoting auricforecas
..should we find a way to HOLD some of it, you could (become and) STAY a millionaire for quite some time
We will hold it. Buys or sells. Whatever the direction. Probably buys.

Traders here must understand that holding it for nearly the entire annual trend is the only way to make nice money. So far, they are making none.

This year I have banked my first two small batches of 1,000 pips baskets, in two live accounts. With time will be doing a lot better than those lousy 1,000 pips small bitches..
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
Quoting MoneyZilla
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Cotdayyyyyumm! friggin grooosssssss! You gotta warn us dawwwwggg!

Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} We will hold it. Buys or sells. Whatever the direction. Probably buys. Traders here must understand that holding it for nearly the entire annual trend is the only way to make nice money. So far, they are making none. This year I have banked my first two small batches of 1,000 pips baskets, in two live accounts. With time will be doing a lot better than those lousy 1,000 pips small bitches..
After dabblin for a few years, Im startin to feel the same way. Gotta have that longer term vision...

intraday trading is just an excuse to tell peeps that you're a trader and to keep the adrenaline/dopamine pumpin.... investing is the way to go.... looooongg term.... all assets.... follow the yield and close out when targets have been hit, one by one... across the board.... Gotta have some gold and metals up in that portfolio too!
Quoting GoldGrilz
{quote} Cotdayyyyyumm! friggin grooosssssss! You gotta warn us dawwwwggg! {quote} After dabblin for a few years, Im startin to feel the same way. Gotta have that longer term vision... intraday trading is just an excuse to tell peeps that you're a trader and to keep the adrenaline/dopamine pumpin.... investing is the way to go.... looooongg term.... all assets.... follow the yield and close out when targets have been hit, one by one... across the board.... Gotta have some gold and metals up in that portfolio too!
He can't help himself.. he likes to SHOCK people, that is his nature... Part of the "tax" of finding something completely out of the box.. as it is presented here...
All types of strategies.. intraday, intracandle, investing.. are good... At the end of the day, only RETURN-DD counts If you can make it by investing... or coin-flipping on 5sec charts, doesnt really matter..

Back on topic, anyone having success with the ideas presented here, what about dedicated TE to show others also?
Can you afford to take that chance?
Quoting DonPato
{quote} How disappointingly predictable. Most (if not all) Trend definitions are painfully slow and usually extreme in their lag. Again, learning to find when price is changing is by far the most profitable. Trend-Schmend...trade the current move. As you are thinking Long term have you considered that over the last 3 years gold has been ranging...not trending?
One idea for spotting a trend early is watching how price reacts to surprise favorable/unfavorable news. If the asset recovers quickly or resists the direction that the fundamentals are suggesting in sudden information I start to believe a trend is involved. I agree with you trend spotting is the difficult part.
careful not to step in a pile of it
Quoting bulltrap
I agree with you trend spotting is the difficult part.
Catching the trend? You can do it with a stick. Like a wooden or a plastic stick? Outside your monitor? That is super easy.

More sophisticated ways looks like this:
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or this:
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Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
Some basics here. It seems most of you, if not all, simply do not know them.

1. All daily tops and bottoms of any given time frame have nearly the same price. Usually, the net distance left in between the tops and the bottoms is 1-2 pips max. This does not change on weekly, monthly or annual measurements.

2. Naturally, all tops and bottoms sharing almost exactly the same price, forming the daily average price. For the market owners, there is just one price. The median D1.

3. All movements are designed to create a delta of 0 (of the buy/sell pips balance), or close to 0. This chart feature, in precise, in a long run, kills everyone. Like 6 months. On average.

4. Jumping over obstacle no.3 is possible only via returns (in pips only) that are significantly bigger than the expenses made (in pips only) while trying to catch the moments of movement. Only the annual trend (size) offers high returns opportunity (in pips).

5. A negative pips strategy will deliver negative money income. Always. Does not matter how hard money have been managed or bets multiplied, whatever.

6. A positive pips strategy is not available on a naked chart or on any chart whatsoever. It takes a second layer of filtering to get to some positive pips. And a third, and a forth and even a fifth. Second layer filtering always does the job well, but for better results, if has to be filtered once more. At least. This is where the positive pips are hidden. Not on the chart. Most fake movements must be filtered, unfortunately.

7. In 20% of the time, mega heavily over trading is allowed. These zones of D1, W1 and MN candles are intact of any corrections of the delta.

8. 80% of the time all levels are being sort of wiped out. Multiple times. Most traders die here. In those 80%... Knowing when will be the last wipe out, means one also knows when and where the trend starts? I don’t know any of those two and enter a new batch every day or weekly or monthly. Usually daily. Don’t care about what will happen, because those batches in the 20% are making it glorious. Really big. Speaking of 800-1000 pips of an average trade price.

Here are the weeks that makes it big, for the last year. The key is to average the annual trend delta, when the year is ranging (for gold is $200) and consume only 80% out of it...
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Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
Quoting MoneyZilla
Many of you do not know it, but there is only one price available. The median D1 price. I am not going to disclose anything about that here.
The "median D1 price" I would assume is the median of the daily bar? Also with "one price", do you mean you only consider D1, and ignore OHLC?
Quoting Goat
{quote} The "median D1 price" I would assume is the median of the daily bar?
It is not exact, but it is nearly there, yes.
Take any tf. They are all nearly identical. No edge in between any tf's tops and bottoms.
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Also with "one price", do you mean you only consider D1, and ignore OHLC?
This one i don't get it.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
Think of market owners perspective. For them, the buy/sell balance is what they take it personal. Their profits are defined by that net balance. Time wise they offer 50:50 chance to open buys or sells. That is why all tops and all bottoms are nearly 50:50, too...

Everyone is trading at different times. That is how the median D1 price forms. And in between the tops and the bottoms of any tf, there is not edge whatsoever. The edge lies in betting into the right D1 direction. That is what I want you to do. Bet on the obvious D1 direction.

Use a pen or take your kids measurement lines used in school, and put it on your monitor. Or draw a horizontal line and buy below and sell above it. There is no way to miss the annual trend. Simply not possible to miss it. Why this annual trend is so discussed?!?
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What is so hard in trading? Just make calculations how much your SLs will cost you. Hold the damn trades not hit by a SL. Or even better, if you could afford it? Reopen closed trades by SL? Again, and again, and again. Until they stop being stopped out. You will then blow even your own mind... by the results of doing just that. The returns are insane. But this takes some serious cash to make or a strategy, very economical on the trades opening... Takes some serious research and thinking. The reopening strategy I mean. However, the static SL is all you need to start with... Take your strategy. Start with it. Take ANY STRATEGY. They all do work. Every single one of them. On the annual trend, everything works.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
Quoting MoneyZilla
.....Second layer filtering always does the job well, but for better results, if has to be filtered once more. At least. This is where the positive pips are hidden. Not on the chart. ..... {image}
Dear MZ,
What is this Second and Third Layer Filtering? are there any clue we can look for?

Thanks in advanced!!
Quoting mav3n
{quote} Dear MZ, What is this Second and Third Layer Filtering? are there any clue we can look for? Thanks in advanced!!
I have shared the third level of filtering here already. It can be used as a second layer, too, but I use it as third layer.

This thing fixes all broken strategies. It takes real practice for find out how exactly. And I do not intend of sharing that. But you have the "reverse" magic posted here already. A reverse of a losing strategy does not work. However, all losing strategies can be used a filter for creating absolutely awesome alternatives.

Here is a live example.
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This is a map of a level 1 strategy, struggling from a very very heavy DRAW-DOWN. However, the output the level 1 strategy creates draws a completely different picture. And this can be modified in so many ways, I often get lost. The opportunities are nearly endless.

Can you make money with this?
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
Dear MZ,
Thanks for the explanation, but I need to recheck my basic comprehension on your concept, correct me if i am wrong (i'm not that smart).

1.
Quoting MoneyZilla
...... Only the annual trend (size) offers high returns opportunity (in pips)......
We define the annual trend of Gold is Uptrend, because it is now above yearly open.

2.
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} It is not exact, but it is nearly there, yes. Take any tf. They are all nearly identical. No edge in between any tf's tops and bottoms. {quote} This one i don't get it.
Is it the Median of current evolving D1 Bar or previous D1 Bar?

3.
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote}.......... Safe exit is when 80% of that delta gets reached... What is that is puzzling you?
It mean that we exit at the position when nearly 80% of Average Year Range (Yearly ATR) reached.

4.
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote}..............A reverse of a losing strategy does not work. However, all losing strategies can be used a filter for creating absolutely awesome alternatives. ............
Because it is actually at random position, reversing a random position result in random outcome! am i correct MZ? It means that whatever strategy we use, we enter at the random position that locate between the Top and Bottom of the day (so you say that there are no edge at these positions).


5.
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} Catching the trend? You can do it with a stick. Like a wooden or a plastic stick? Outside your monitor? That is super easy. More sophisticated ways looks like this: {image} or this: {image}
So the 2nd and 3rd filtering is seeing at the roadmap created by the Closezilla 1.40 and take some action base on it? Actually i have download this tool months ago, but still dont know how to use it. I know that it create the maps for our lost money, but i dont know for sure how to use / read it.

6.
Quoting MoneyZilla
..........draw a horizontal line and buy below and sell above it....
If we assume that we in yearly uptrend does it mean that we buy below the line to minimize draw down? we cause we buy at the 'daily pullback'

Sorry for bombarding with questions! I am quite enthusiast learning this MZ

Thanks a lot
Quoting mav3n
...I need to recheck my basic comprehension on your concept, correct me if i am wrong...
1. Yes. Year open is a wonderful start. You can use every month's open afterwards. For a new batch. Just to hedge a little. Really helps with the DRAW-DOWN.

2. It is the median of the D1 bars being in range, until is broken. Usually, like 10 D1 bars or so. They move it away when 10 bars or so are in one zone.
example 1 (short range with median D1 price for all days included)
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example 2 (monthly range, same, all days included offer just two prices, 1-2 pips away from each other. all equal to all D1 median price formed by all days included)
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3. Yes. Although I do not know what ATR does exactly. But everything is really helpful. When you hold it. I am sure ATR will work in your favour, if you know it well enough.

4. Yes and No. It is not random. Buying tops and buying bottoms will end up in a similar profitable way, but buying bottoms will deliver more profitable trades left in an uptrend. The more profitable trades you have, the better, I think. In general buying below the D1 median is the best option.

5. This thing is an absolute killer, but it is your journey to find it out how exactly. It is not as straight forward as one would like it be. It opens a completely new world. I think you are on your own here.

6. Exactly. You see? Thinking helps. You are ready to do.

7. Have patience. It will really hurt. Especially in the annual ranging months. Like Jan-May 2019, for example. You have to fight that pain. This is really hard... until you close your first 1,000 pips batch.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
Quoting MoneyZilla
{quote} ..... Have patience. It will really hurt. Especially in the annual ranging months. Like Jan-May 2019, for example. You have to fight that pain. This is really hard... until you close your first 1,000 pips batch.
Thanks MZ,
I have a feeling that just this single post open new enlightenment for those who is ready. Let me digest them first when i am at home! Thanks a lot
Quoting mav3n
{quote} Thanks MZ, I have a feeling that just this single post open new enlightenment for those who is ready. Let me digest them first when i am at home! Thanks a lot
You are ready to fly now. Just watch how birds to learn to fly for a first time. Take it easy the first couple of times.
Maadik Hugiis. IQ 69.
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