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  • #3,561
  • Nov 2, 2011 10:11am Nov 2, 2011 10:11am
Quoting mohan76
i have started with USA broker (australian office), then moved to Australian broker as withdrawa getl delayed, now my 2 main account Australian Brokers, yes i have live account with 4 Aus brokers (net spread similar [spread - cash back] ) , some time i wonder all 4 brokers inter connected (same technology, similar spread, similar policy ).

my broker theory : any broker can go bankrupt @ any time (recent MF Global) , so split the risk
Hi Mohan, seeing that you got several Australian accounts, I was wondering if you have an account with Pepperstone by chance? If so, what's the avg spread and execution time like? (I know what they advertise but reality can be quite different). Really interested to check it out.
  • #3,562
  • Nov 2, 2011 10:29am Nov 2, 2011 10:29am
Euro session > 1~2times
NY session > 2~3times

Every freeze takes about 1min.
It's ridiculous to trade(especially scalping) with this amateur broker now.
  • #3,563
  • Nov 2, 2011 10:34am Nov 2, 2011 10:34am
Quoting jeanlouie
Hi Mohan, seeing that you got several Australian accounts, I was wondering if you have an account with Pepperstone by chance? If so, what's the avg spread and execution time like? (I know what they advertise but reality can be quite different). Really interested to check it out.
Similar to GO, eu range 1.1 - 1.8 on (standard account) during liquidity time
Mohan
  • #3,564
  • Nov 2, 2011 10:41am Nov 2, 2011 10:41am
...LMAX, Alpari pro and Fxopen are drifting inbetween 0 and .5...
  • #3,565
  • Nov 2, 2011 10:54am Nov 2, 2011 10:54am
Quoting skoda2008
The main thing for me looking at alternatives has been to keep my account in AUS dollars. That pretty much limits me to Aus brokers. Go, Vantage, AxiTrader, Pepperstone, PureTrade, any others?

AxiTrader spreads aren't that flash.
Pure trade's demo doesn't even work - that instills confidence!
Pepperstone doesn't even offer BPay as a funding option? Which is just like your local Chinese takeaway that only takes cash - would you trust them with your savings?

That pretty much just leaves Vantage.

Go were great until they started fiddling...
Try using this to test your execution speeds.

http://forex-expats.com/recommended/

Extestforexpat (see attached file)

If it is good, you should get below 300ms. If it sucks, like my vantage did, I got around 800 to 1000ms
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip ExTest-ForExpat.zip   10 KB | 474 downloads
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  • #3,566
  • Nov 2, 2011 11:13am Nov 2, 2011 11:13am
can you use this ex4 file to monitor live trade?

Rather doing test trade.
  • #3,567
  • Nov 2, 2011 12:45pm Nov 2, 2011 12:45pm
Quoting nubcake
using a far away limit order is probably the most elegant way to do it, so you are probably already on a winner. personally, i would set the limit entry as 100 points. then you could simply set the stop value as 0 (which equates to no stop in mt4, but note that this is not the point here of why i would set it at 0). from that, when you do the update you read the stop value, perform a NOT operation on the value, and then update the order with this new value. this would set the limit on eurusd on gom servers as 0.0001 for limit entry with a stop...
Yeah i'm using a kind of "toolbox" of different scripts for my trading at the moment, it is very useful. I've made some changes to the ea, included a magic number, and updated my other scripts, so i think that it is all working well together now. I've attached the ea as it is now.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 Ping EA.mq4   1 KB | 360 downloads
  • #3,568
  • Edited 1:52pm Nov 2, 2011 1:09pm | Edited 1:52pm
Quoting rooicol
Yeah i'm using a kind of "toolbox" of different scripts for my trading at the moment, it is very useful. I've made some changes to the ea, included a magic number, and updated my other scripts, so i think that it is all working well together now. I've attached the ea as it is now.
by toolbox i was referring to an include file so you can immediately have access to common functions without constantly rewriting them and whatnot.

just had a quick look at the file. is it an EA, or a script? it looks like a script to me, so you calling it an EA is confusing.

edit : cool, now that i have formatted it properly i can see it's a script. /edit

also, you have some errors in the code. why do you add 7200 to both time values? ima rewrite this and repost.

edit 2 : actually, not so much errors. hard to read though with the formatting. still rewriting anyways.
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  • #3,569
  • Nov 2, 2011 1:15pm Nov 2, 2011 1:15pm
rooicol : your ea monitor live trade's time in ms?
  • #3,570
  • Nov 2, 2011 1:58pm Nov 2, 2011 1:58pm
Quoting MoreYummy
rooicol : your ea monitor live trade's time in ms?
no, just whole seconds, you can calculate ms from mean of a large number of values
  • #3,571
  • Nov 2, 2011 2:00pm Nov 2, 2011 2:00pm
Quoting nubcake
by toolbox i was referring to an include file so you can immediately have access to common functions without constantly rewriting them and whatnot.

just had a quick look at the file. is it an EA, or a script? it looks like a script to me, so you calling it an EA is confusing.

edit : cool, now that i have formatted it properly i can see it's a script. /edit

also, you have some errors in the code. why do you add 7200 to both time values? ima rewrite this and repost.

edit 2 : actually, not so much errors. hard to read though with the...
I use it as a EA. the + 7200 is to convert the time to server time, if i use server time then it logs the server time when the last tick was received, which may be a second or so earlier, not the actual server time right at the time it is run

edit: sorry about the formatting, i don't really know the conventions used to formate the code, i just format it the way it makes sense to me. apologies
  • #3,572
  • Nov 2, 2011 2:07pm Nov 2, 2011 2:07pm
but does it collect data in 0.1 second?
  • #3,573
  • Edited 5:51pm Nov 2, 2011 4:36pm | Edited 5:51pm
Quoting rooicol
I use it as a EA. the + 7200 is to convert the time to server time, if i use server time then it logs the server time when the last tick was received, which may be a second or so earlier, not the actual server time right at the time it is run

edit: sorry about the formatting, i don't really know the conventions used to formate the code, i just format it the way it makes sense to me. apologies
an EA is specifically an EA and never a script. there are fundamental differences between the two. even though you made this seem to loop infinitely it's still not an EA, and will always be a script. that said, it's probably best as a looping script instead of an EA since, to my understanding, scripts run in their own threads whereas EA's don't and therefore you can't put an EA in an infinite loop (which is required to accomplish what this script does) without locking-up your whole mt4 and instead have to rely on the EA running only once per incoming tick event.

the 7200 bit is not how i would have gone about that at all, but if it worked for you then cool. i would rather leave the addition to when you are actually printing or writing a final figure instead of appending it to both of the variables beforehand. it's a bit messy.

anyways... i took your code and butchered it to death. as i might actually use this at some point, and i've put an hour or 2 into this, i've renamed the attached file in my own naming convention. it's not like i will be pimping this around town and whatnot since the source is right here on public display.

once the script is running you will find it difficult to attach the script to other charts, and i did this on purpose to prevent a whole bunch of limit orders being generated by multiple running scripts when you only require one script and one limit order being updated. you can still manage to get around this basic safeguard if you somehow decide to manually delete the limit order and then attach the script to a second chart before the next update occurs (i.e. during the countdown). this is bad and will have 2 separate scripts running both making updates at different times, but since it requires you to manually create this situation on purpose then just don't do that

instead of having to try to detach the script, which can be hit or miss and take awhile to seem to do anything, i've made it so you can press F3 and set the global variable in there to any value other than 0... and this causes the script to end itself naturally instead of an mt4 forced deinit.

also, as per previous chatter between you and yummy, the way i have coded this will allow you to record or print the amount of time taken for the limit order update to complete to the millisecond (but only as accurately as windows itself is capable of reporting).

i've commented out your file writing section since i didn't want this on my pc, but you can uncomment and update the variables etc to make it run again (keeping in mind that itick1 and itick2 now represent milliseconds now instead of seconds).

have a look, see what you think.

p.s. it seems you were on the money when you said the timeout was 30 seconds. if you set this script to update at something like 33 second intervals then it takes time to get out of the context busy, but if you set it to update after 28 seconds (which it is at the moment) then it generally goes through immediately. i don't know if you worked this all out on your own, or chris told this to you, or someone else, but that's good shit to know... so thx!

edit : removed for bugfix.
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  • #3,574
  • Nov 2, 2011 5:26pm Nov 2, 2011 5:26pm
Thanks for your work- all that have added to it. I am interested to try the difference for executions. Does the 30 sec thing apply to other brokers generally?

UPDATE: I put a buy in, seemed very fast to go through. Put a sell in, the tp went to .0005. Changed the tp, then it went back to .0005. The ea is changing the live trade.
  • #3,575
  • Nov 2, 2011 5:41pm Nov 2, 2011 5:41pm
Quoting kj63
Thanks for your work- all that have added to it. I am interested to try the difference for executions. Does the 30 sec thing apply to other brokers generally?

UPDATE: I put a buy in, seemed very fast to go through. Put a sell in, the tp went to .0005. Changed the tp, then it went back to .0005. The ea is changing the live trade.
no idea about what brokers do what. i would assume (whether right or wrong) that it's an mt4 setting that probably isn't configurable by the broker.... therefore i expect that all brokers would be the same. but, this is all new to me so i'm guessing.

i'll have to have a poke around and see what i've done that would make it change an order that isn't the keepalive order. sorry about that. my bad >/
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #3,576
  • Nov 2, 2011 6:17pm Nov 2, 2011 6:17pm
ok that was shit. it was an obvious mistake and i think i've cleaned it all up now. i know i keep saying this, but i'm tired (when am i not?) and i should be asleep right now. the source is there so people can make of it what they want.

personally what i would do with a script like this is bind a shortcut key to it, and also have another script that sets the global var to 1 (which causes this script to end itself nicely) bound to another shortcut key. from this you can simply switch the script on and off by 2 simple shortcut keys much like a light switch.

i wouldn't be leaving this script running at all times. that would defeat the purpose of the trade server not keeping itself connected already. when you want to send or modify orders (scalping etc) then run the script, then once you are done switch it off and don't harass the trade server with this constant and now pointless stream of order modifies that aren't doing you any favors anymore! use sparingly and be nice!

p.s. the text that pops up in the corner to let you know how long is left until the next keepalive is due to occur is a label so you can move it wherever you like on the screen. i've also now made it show how long the previous keepalive took for the modify order to complete. for me it shows between 100 to 500 milliseconds with an average of about 250'ish which is totally ok by me. at least it's not 10 seconds or 1 minute etc. hopefully that nightmare is behind us all.
Attached File(s)
File Type: mq4 nbScriptTradeServerKeepAlive.mq4   4 KB | 439 downloads
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #3,577
  • Nov 2, 2011 7:10pm Nov 2, 2011 7:10pm
Once again, thank you for your time on this. I take note of not overdoing the server connection for sure. Hey, have more sleep!
  • #3,578
  • Nov 2, 2011 8:08pm Nov 2, 2011 8:08pm
Quoting iwillsurvive
Try using this to test your execution speeds.

http://forex-expats.com/recommended/

Extestforexpat (see attached file)

If it is good, you should get below 300ms. If it sucks, like my vantage did, I got around 800 to 1000ms
I tried it out. Crucial VPS to Go averaged around 200ms, Crucial to Vantage there is no point quoting an average because it's so erratic, so the range is 640 -1200ms.

I have read on another forum that people are experiencing 1000ms with Pepperstone on a CNS VPS since their move to Wall St. So Go definitely seems best in this regard.
  • #3,579
  • Nov 2, 2011 8:49pm Nov 2, 2011 8:49pm
ping to DC1 is 150ms-160ms one server from Cal. another from China.


I hope they wont eat their word in next week. I will glad to see the spread down to 1.5. otherwise moving back my account to FXDD.


See the laughable ADV. on the left screen, CITI trader....spreads from 1.2 pips...

The citi bank has the highest bank charge & wrost exchange rate I have ever seen in the world.

I remmit 5000USD to JP morgen bank from bank of china by personal account. Bank charge is $20.

I remmint 1000USD from my company's account, they charge 55 USD.

And the company suffer great exchange loss every month by the negitive exchange rate.
No one wants to be defeated~
  • #3,580
  • Nov 2, 2011 9:47pm Nov 2, 2011 9:47pm
Quoting skoda2008
I tried it out. Crucial VPS to Go averaged around 200ms, Crucial to Vantage there is no point quoting an average because it's so erratic, so the range is 640 -1200ms.

I have read on another forum that people are experiencing 1000ms with Pepperstone on a CNS VPS since their move to Wall St. So Go definitely seems best in this regard.
Your Go execution time is perfect! around 200ms?
I'm using MammothVPS, l pinged to Go's server DC1(ip:118.127.74.114) only 1ms, but got horrible execution time: 3000ms and more! Why? I have heared about that: "the more profit you made, the more exection time you got." Is that true? as it for me, it is correct. I used to experience less than 500ms before, and now 3000ms, thanks for Go.
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