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  • #41
  • Dec 13, 2015 4:05am Dec 13, 2015 4:05am
Quoting Lacunoide
{quote} Sure 100% illegal. Anyways wasting time with EAs or various indicator. I tried a lot of them. At the end of the day 'i didn't find anything that really worked'. Most have very low Sharpe Ratio / sortino Ratio, they generally work for a limited time. I even tried an App called Zorro based on machine learning. But even the strategy proposed but the devolper didn't work in reality. I finally understood what "past performance is not indicatived of futures results". It is only a way to profit for some people to...
Yet the craftsmen continue to hone their skills 'in secret' to build better quality tools for sale that 'don't really work' ?
  • #42
  • Dec 13, 2015 5:24am Dec 13, 2015 5:24am
There is nothing that can ever be coded that will ever make money in trading. So, if you are paying for it, you are a fool.
IMO all trading software should come with the source code. For all you know you could be buying some trojan / virus or other nasty stuff in addition to some rubbish that will make you lose money. Therefore, it's perfectly legitimate to crack trading software if the source is not provided.
  • #43
  • Dec 13, 2015 6:16am Dec 13, 2015 6:16am
Quoting Mingary
There is nothing that can ever be coded that will ever make money in trading. So, if you are paying for it, you are a fool. IMO all trading software should come with the source code. For all you know you could be buying some trojan / virus or other nasty stuff in addition to some rubbish that will make you lose money. Therefore, it's perfectly legitimate to crack trading software if the source is not provided.
Why do most of your post generalize a topic and are negative towards trading. Of course there can be something coded that can make you money in trading. If a ex4 file does not call any dll you can be sure that the damage the program can do is only limited to you account. If you do not trust the author don't use the code or create it yourself. It's not like you look at the source code of every single program you use on a daily basis.
  • #44
  • Edited 12:48pm Dec 13, 2015 10:56am | Edited 12:48pm
Quoting Kilian19
That is the moral standard we are looking for.......
He has a website (check his profile page) on which he sells products priced at up to $17,500. And yet he also promotes business practices that in his own words are "illegal". Not a great advertisement for his own products, LOL. And of course, at the very least, he should be a commercial member.

Quoting Halley
I have difficulties to understand my fully commented source myself, so the question is if someone else could decipher the decompiled source.
Keep in mind that all a pirate has to do is locate the product name/copyright notice (which should be obvious from the string literals in the source code) and then change those, in order to re-badge a product and sell it as his own.

Quoting skyway
I learnt to write codes from no prior computer programming background.......
When I share indicators and EAs freely, I'm not seeking money, gratitude, or a return favor. I was brought up to believe that freely means without any kind of expectation. Having said that, I do get peeved by people who expect something for nothing. I see a big difference between an attitude of giving, and an attitude of taking.

I'm frequently approached by FF members to write EAs and indicators. Of the few requests that I've undertaken, I've never asked for any kind of payment. I don't wish to disclose details of my financial situation, so I'll just say that many EAs take a lot longer to write and test than originally anticipated, and time is more important to me than pocket money.

My main objection is when people take code that has been offered freely, and then decompile and re-badge it so that they can sell it as if it was their own product. This is blatant theft, irrespective of the value of the software, or whether the EA is profitable or not. To anybody who doubts that piracy occurs, see cja's post here.

Quoting Mingary
There is nothing that can ever be coded that will ever make money in trading. So, if you are paying for it, you are a fool.
If a trader engages a commercial programmer to code an EA, then (assuming the EA executes the trader's rules correctly) it is the trader's fault if the EA is unprofitable. The programmer should be paid for his time and effort regardless.
  • #45
  • Dec 16, 2015 6:02am Dec 16, 2015 6:02am
I think re-using code for profit is wrong but sometimes you come across an indicator that you want to tweak a little or figure out what some of the settings are.

The downside is that coders share less because they don't want their code being used for profit or copied.
  • #46
  • Dec 17, 2015 5:05am Dec 17, 2015 5:05am
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How can I convert .ex4 file into .mq4?

This might help:-

http://bfy.tw/3KaZ
  • #47
  • Dec 17, 2015 5:08am Dec 17, 2015 5:08am
Quoting Phil2015
{quote} This might help:- http://bfy.tw/3KaZ
  • #48
  • Dec 17, 2015 12:13pm Dec 17, 2015 12:13pm
Quoting Phil2015
{quote} This might help:- http://bfy.tw/3KaZ
That lead me to a boring video, where a guy demonstrated decompiling 600+ ex4.
He did not even pretend any machine formatting or naming, and left all code compete, with comments and formatting unchanged.
  • #49
  • Dec 29, 2015 8:55pm Dec 29, 2015 8:55pm
yes if modify the exe file to mql5 is not harm when one use for his own purpose of use or give to others for kind of help.... but the same time when one do this for selling purpose then its purely begging.. i don't know other words.. really they are well classified beggars. because here so many treasure of knowledge is sharing via world wide by known people to unknown people in the kind of helping tendency.
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #50
  • Dec 30, 2015 2:27am Dec 30, 2015 2:27am
Quoting ramzam
yes if modify the exe file to mql5 is not harm when one use for his own purpose of use or give to others for kind of help.... but the same time when one do this for selling purpose then its purely begging.. i don't know other words.. really they are well classified beggars. because here so many treasure of knowledge is sharing via world wide by known people to unknown people in the kind of helping tendency.
so theft for your own use is okay with you...

I will come and steal your car, but if only I use it then it is okay....
  • #51
  • Edited 4:32am Dec 30, 2015 4:17am | Edited 4:32am
Many people do not consider something they can do for free, using a computer, in their house as illegal or immoral. Or at least not to a level that will stop them doing so. Look at the effects on the film and music industry.

Compared to the real world, the enigmatic line between right and wrong is in a totally different place in cyberspace.

  1. Possibly this is because of the illusion of anonymity i.e. no faces to the victims, no faces to the perpetrators, no faces to those benefiting

  1. Maybe it is a feeling of not getting caught because the act is committed in a place subconsciously considered safe i.e. home

  1. Perhaps it is a belief that it is a victimless act because society conditions us to perceive property as tangible, physical items i.e. a DVD disc rather than a digital download.

  1. Or perchance there is some weird group polarisation stuff going on. Or a more subtle distinction between being the perpetrator rather than the beneficiary i.e. I won't put ripped DVDs on the internet but I'm happy to download them (because someone else did the bad act so I don't feel morally compromised and I won't be the target for repercussions)


I don't know the psychology. But what I do know is that most people would baulk at the idea of breaking into a film studio to copy their latest release from the 'cutting room floor' but the moral compass points another way regarding stealing code or downloading films over the internet. Would you break into Gordon Ramsay's house to steal his private recipe book? He sells his food so why can't I know how he makes it? He shouldn't sell his food if he doesn't want anyone to know all his recipes...

As with most things, I think empathy (or a lack thereof) plays a large part. So I'll throw out a question to those who consider decompiling acceptable.

Is it OK for a coder to secretly add extra code into an indicator that shows him all your trades from your terminal? Your entries. Your exits. Your pending orders. Your lot sizes. Your account balance. He then gives (or sells) this information to other people.

Consider the following:

  1. It isn't taking any physical property from you.
  2. It won't change your bottom line.
  3. It won't affect your trading decisions.
  4. Surely this is a case of nobly "sharing the knowledge" to the masses because you weren't prepared to share it yourself.
  5. And if you didn't want this happening, you wouldn't be downloading indicators off the internet, would you?


Would your answer be different if you were very successful?
Would your answer be different if you were very unsuccessful?

NB don't worry, you can't do this with normal MQL!

  • #52
  • Dec 31, 2015 5:21am Dec 31, 2015 5:21am
Quoting MaxDoom
{quote} so theft for your own use is okay with you... I will come and steal your car, but if only I use it then it is okay....
if i place car for public use for those not having car facility then you take for your trip or emergency means its not offendable. but if you sale that car means? that was i mentioned and note still i dont have car ... in this 2016 i am planning to purchase a brand new car insha allah
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #53
  • Dec 31, 2015 5:49am Dec 31, 2015 5:49am
Quoting ramzam
{quote} if i place car for public use for those not having car facility then you take for your trip or emergency means its not offendable.
You are perfectly right ... except that the allowance is only to drive the car ... not to pirate its technology ... and that's exactly the same difference when coders share the .ex4 and not the .mq4 ... for traders to use the program not pirate its technology.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #54
  • Jan 2, 2016 12:34pm Jan 2, 2016 12:34pm
now i like put the contrary question. for a coder it may takes hundreds of hours to find the optimal indicator or trading system. so how do we as programmers can PROTECT our ex4 from being decompiled?
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  • #55
  • Jan 9, 2016 4:48pm Jan 9, 2016 4:48pm
I have purchesed an indicator for 67 $ and the developer went off the grid now what am i supose to do you whant to protect you ex4 but you can get up and leave after u get peoples money and we the normal pople get left with nothing . Coders are not the only one geting robed .
  • #56
  • Jan 9, 2016 5:11pm Jan 9, 2016 5:11pm
Quoting evildex
I have purchesed an indicator for 67 $ and the developer went off the grid now what am i supose to do you whant to protect you ex4 but you can get up and leave after u get peoples money and we the normal pople get left with nothing . Coders are not the only one geting robed .
You learn to code it yourself, or you pay someone else to recode it with whatever changes you need, or you complain about dumb shit on forums like you have here. If you paid for the code itself, not just it's compiled final form, then you'd have the code and wouldn't have any issue. If you didn't pay for the rights to the code then you got what you paid for. Stop being an entitled child.

If you got what you paid for you have no right to complain about a single thing. Services rendered.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #57
  • Jan 9, 2016 9:52pm Jan 9, 2016 9:52pm
any body please guide me to learn mql language step by step because now only i came to know the essential of learning and i wish to learn. thanking you in advance
Success is a Journey Not a Destination....... kind regards ramzam
  • #58
  • Jan 10, 2016 1:59am Jan 10, 2016 1:59am
Quoting evildex
I have purchesed an indicator for 67 $ and the developer went off the grid now what am i supose to do you whant to protect you ex4 but you can get up and leave after u get peoples money and we the normal pople get left with nothing . Coders are not the only one geting robed .
Nubcake is right (although he does have a very direct way of putting things lol). Try talking to your bank/credit card provider might get a charge back if recent purchase and vendor isn't playing. Just a thought.
  • #59
  • Jan 10, 2016 2:45am Jan 10, 2016 2:45am
I agree decompilation of ex4 is just akin to stealing from the author.

I also want to add that anyone who is using ex4 indicators from relatively unknown source is just begging to be robed. Who knows what the code will do if you havent seen the mq4 and compiled it yourself. If you are buying an indicator from someone (specially relatively small entity or single person), ask them to give you mq4 - if they dont, then just dont deal with them.
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  • #60
  • Edited 3:47pm Mar 3, 2016 3:33pm | Edited 3:47pm
If they don't want to share let it be.
There shouldn't be any money in this world to go to next level.Everything should be free.Lets start from here.Let it be green pip to all to start off!!
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