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  • #761
  • Nov 5, 2012 3:57pm Nov 5, 2012 3:57pm
Quoting JR97
Wow. I found a video of some dude describing exactly what was in my head when I came up with the concept behind the wavy line forecast. Glad to know I'm not alone in my thinking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=4zc0ICPoqlM
Finished the video
Very interesting to hear someone talk about the math behind what was most likely Gann's "Law of Vibration"
Cheers
  • #762
  • Nov 6, 2012 9:21pm Nov 6, 2012 9:21pm
Entered on the double bottom a little late. Add on at the pull back damn near perfect.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...2012-11-06.gif
  • #763
  • Nov 6, 2012 9:53pm Nov 6, 2012 9:53pm
I'm not going to post a chart, but if you know what you're looking for the EU 30 min. chart shows a perfect mirror image pattern playing out.
  • #764
  • Nov 6, 2012 10:20pm Nov 6, 2012 10:20pm
The primary target has been achieved.. the red 1x1 line. Sooner than I expected which means higher on the red line.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...2012-11-06.gif
  • #765
  • Nov 7, 2012 7:55am Nov 7, 2012 7:55am
Quoting JR97
The primary target has been achieved.. the red 1x1 line. Sooner than I expected which means higher on the red line.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...2012-11-06.gif
I have read all of your blog posts and you have a few techniques for squaring the range... I am trying to replicate your Gann grid and can not do it

Starting with 1.30201 if i use the (sqrt -2)^2 method on 13020.1 I get close to 1.27614 as my price, but not close enough...

Any color you can add as to why you created a range of 259 pips? Also your vertical divisions are 24 hrs apart, yet in a square of 259, wouldnt 8 divisions come to 32-33 hrs each?

Thanks for this thread and I hope you don't mind the detailed questions

Regards,
Dolemite
  • #766
  • Nov 7, 2012 9:34am Nov 7, 2012 9:34am
Quoting Dolemite
I have read all of your blog posts and you have a few techniques for squaring the range... I am trying to replicate your Gann grid and can not do it

Starting with 1.30201 if i use the (sqrt -2)^2 method on 13020.1 I get close to 1.27614 as my price, but not close enough...

Any color you can add as to why you created a range of 259 pips? Also your vertical divisions are 24 hrs apart, yet in a square of 259, wouldnt 8 divisions come to 32-33 hrs each?

Thanks for this thread and I hope you don't mind the detailed questions

Regards,
Dolemite...
Most of the square creating techniques I use now days are based on squaring the range as mentioned in my blog but I've tweaked it to square the range to time instead of bars. Hard to explain but basically the concept is price = time. Most Gann authors/traders set price = bar-time and not price-time. I'm not going to divulge more than that. But it's actually pretty damn simple once you figure it out.
  • #767
  • Nov 7, 2012 9:36am Nov 7, 2012 9:36am
Quoting JR97
Most of the square creating techniques I use now days are based on squaring the range as mentioned in my blog but I've tweaked it to square the range to time instead of bars. Hard to explain but basically the concept is price = time. Most Gann authors/traders set price = bar-time and not price-time. I'm not going to divulge more than that. But it's actually pretty damn simple once you figure it out.
Thanks for the tidbits. Back to the lab I go!!!
  • #768
  • Nov 7, 2012 9:43am Nov 7, 2012 9:43am
JR
did you read the last book of Michael Jenkins "Square the range trading system"?

Ciao
Fabio


Quoting Dolemite
Thanks for the tidbits. Back to the lab I go!!!
  • #769
  • Nov 7, 2012 9:57am Nov 7, 2012 9:57am
Quoting Dolemite
Thanks for the tidbits. Back to the lab I go!!!
I'll be honest here... I wouldn't stress too much about figuring it out. If you can draw a standard square of the range, come up with a couple of rules on placement, get familiar with trade setups in the square, that's all you need. If you can get that down consistently you're in great shape. No need to make things more difficult than they need to be.

I wouldn't say my thuper thecret method is any more of an edge. I can literally plug in any value out of my @ss and plot the square to any high/low and find signals. That's the secret to chart/market geometry. It's all fractal. There is no right/wrong.
  • #770
  • Nov 7, 2012 9:59am Nov 7, 2012 9:59am
Quoting JR97
I'll be honest here... I wouldn't stress too much about figuring it out. If you can draw a standard square of the range, come up with a couple of rules on placement, get familiar with trade setups in the square, that's all you need. If you can get that down consistently you're in great shape. No need to make things more difficult than they need to be.

I wouldn't say my thuper thecret method is any more of an edge. I can literally plug in any value out of my @ss and plot the square to any high/low and find signals. That's the secret to...
Good to know And had a nice LOL at "thuper thecret"
Keep up the good work JR I appreciate your effort and results
  • #771
  • Nov 7, 2012 10:00am Nov 7, 2012 10:00am
Quoting Fabio69
JR
did you read the last book of Michael Jenkins "Square the range trading system"?

Ciao
Fabio
I did not. Any good? I've read a few of his books and saw a vid of his. Great stuff. Also proof that geometric methods are only limited by your imagination. Draw a pretty picture, see if it fits elsewhere and you're good to go. Most of my techniques came about that way. Not from dissecting the methods of Gann/Jenkins/Cowan/Beann/etc. They were more or less just food for thought.
  • #772
  • Nov 7, 2012 10:20am Nov 7, 2012 10:20am
Thanks JR for the tips;-)

My biggest problem with MT4 is the scaling issue ;-(

Ciao

Quoting JR97
I did not. Any good? I've read a few of his books and saw a vid of his. Great stuff. Also proof that geometric methods are only limited by your imagination. Draw a pretty picture, see if it fits elsewhere and you're good to go. Most of my techniques came about that way. Not from dissecting the methods of Gann/Jenkins/Cowan/Beann/etc. They were more or less just food for thought.
  • #773
  • Nov 7, 2012 10:24am Nov 7, 2012 10:24am
Quoting Fabio69
Thanks JR for the tips;-)

My biggest problem with MT4 is the scaling issue ;-(

Ciao
You can manually set the scaling. If you click and hold the price area, you can adjust the scaling up and down. That's how I square up objects I know are perfect squares in theory. Like the stock gann grid. I just adjust up/down until the line that make up the diagonals are perfectly straight.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...2012-11-06.gif
  • #774
  • Nov 7, 2012 10:37am Nov 7, 2012 10:37am
JR
I think I understood to square the range.
The problem is that
- let's say I'm in H1 chart with some degree of zooming let's say 8 bars per hour range
- I draw an angle line to find out the time. It[s ok for a while. I draw perfectly my square
- after a while , MT4 scrolls, the square is not in line with the time anymore

In your example Gann grid , I know exactly how to draw it: I just set the scale=10 on M15 till H1 , the it's ok

Ciao
Fabio

Quoting JR97
You can manually set the scaling. If you click and hold the price area, you can adjust the scaling up and down. That's how I square up objects I know are perfect squares in theory. Like the stock gann grid. I just adjust up/down until the line that make up the diagonals are perfectly straight.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...2012-11-06.gif
  • #775
  • Nov 7, 2012 10:42am Nov 7, 2012 10:42am
Quoting egkid
Hi Sti
my view for e/u down to touch 1.2740 "Almost"
I told you
  • #776
  • Nov 7, 2012 11:50am Nov 7, 2012 11:50am
Quoting Fabio69
JR
I think I understood to square the range.
The problem is that
- let's say I'm in H1 chart with some degree of zooming let's say 8 bars per hour range
- I draw an angle line to find out the time. It[s ok for a while. I draw perfectly my square
- after a while , MT4 scrolls, the square is not in line with the time anymore

In your example Gann grid , I know exactly how to draw it: I just set the scale=10 on M15 till H1 , the it's ok

Ciao
Fabio
Here's another little tip.. don't have auto update on or whatever it's called. The green arrow button. That will invoke automatic chart re-scaling on every tick if I"m not mistaken.
  • #777
  • Nov 7, 2012 11:51am Nov 7, 2012 11:51am
Quoting JR97
Here's another little tip.. don't have auto update on or whatever it's called. The green arrow button. That will invoke automatic chart re-scaling on every tick if I"m not mistaken.
Oh.. and to get 'square' for some time frames means either compressing the bars or spreading them out. Whatever fits the bill. That's just the nature of mt4's crappy scaling. It was a little easier when there were only 4 decimals. But 5 decimals pretty much destroys the built in 1:1 scaling.
  • #778
  • Nov 7, 2012 11:52am Nov 7, 2012 11:52am
Quoting egkid
I told you
Did you trade it, though? That's all that matters.
  • #779
  • Nov 7, 2012 11:57am Nov 7, 2012 11:57am
Quoting JR97
Did you trade it, though? That's all that matters.
Yes but closed 2760
i will wait 2720 as the Low for nice R:R AND better time of the day
  • #780
  • Nov 8, 2012 3:37am Nov 8, 2012 3:37am
Quoting egkid
Yes but closed 2760
i will wait 2720 as the Low for nice R:R AND better time of the day
2720 Touched ,I'm In
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