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  • #601
  • Feb 16, 2012 1:43am Feb 16, 2012 1:43am
Hi JR'

I have been trying to figure out how you arrive at the time intervals that you use in your squares..to no avail. Are you willing to discuss your method, or give a nudge in the right direction?
  • #602
  • Feb 16, 2012 1:44am Feb 16, 2012 1:44am
Quoting One day!
Hi JR'

I have been trying to figure out how you arrive at the time intervals that you use in your squares..to no avail. Are you willing to discuss your method, or give a nudge in the right direction?

i know im not JR - but hey

45 seems to do me well on all my squares. actually most of my squares are 45 based .
Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #603
  • Feb 16, 2012 8:16am Feb 16, 2012 8:16am
The forecast so far. I made an adjustment to the phase. The overall shape of the forecast stays the same. But the longest cycles fit a little better.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2007.11.gif
  • #604
  • Feb 16, 2012 9:11am Feb 16, 2012 9:11am
Here's how things currently sit. Usually I only try to get trade one leg of the forecast.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2008.12.gif

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2008.07.gif
  • #605
  • Feb 16, 2012 9:48am Feb 16, 2012 9:48am
Chad
I'm speechless ;-) You are a wizards ;-)
Some hints where I can looking for ?
You said you are using something different from wave59 correct ?
What's I have to read study ?

Quoting JR97
Here's how things currently sit. Usually I only try to get trade one leg of the forecast.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2008.12.gif

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2008.07.gif
  • #606
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:06am Feb 16, 2012 10:06am
Example of a quick scalp getting the last leg of the long forecast.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2009.03.gif

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2009.04.gif
  • #607
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:24am Feb 16, 2012 10:24am
the way u add on is just unbelievable.

u make 50 pip swings into 100 pip profits...

like that yesteraday move. those addons are incredible
Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #608
  • Feb 16, 2012 10:42am Feb 16, 2012 10:42am
40 pippers. profit target hit and out. Net pips on the day are about 110. I guess I should get out of bed and go to work now. haha

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2009.38.gif

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2009.39.gif
  • #609
  • Feb 16, 2012 11:12am Feb 16, 2012 11:12am
Look at that move straight up playing out the forecast pattern. I'm already out, but I think it's cool when things play out.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2010.10.gif
  • #610
  • Feb 16, 2012 11:33am Feb 16, 2012 11:33am
Quoting One day!
Hi JR'

I have been trying to figure out how you arrive at the time intervals that you use in your squares..to no avail. Are you willing to discuss your method, or give a nudge in the right direction?
price = time. That's the gist of it. and by time I don't mean bars. I mean time.
  • #611
  • Feb 16, 2012 11:46am Feb 16, 2012 11:46am
Quoting Fabio69
Chad
I'm speechless ;-) You are a wizards ;-)
Some hints where I can looking for ?
You said you are using something different from wave59 correct ?
What's I have to read study ?
I'm using the wave59 software but the price forecast script is something not included with it. Actually, I think the cycle framework is if you fork out another $2k for the Lars von Thienen materials. But what he does and what I do are not related. I'm using an earlier version of that framework someone shared with me but modified it to fit my needs.

Anywho, learn how to sum up wave forms to create composites. I prefer triangle waves over sine waves.
  • #612
  • Feb 16, 2012 11:50am Feb 16, 2012 11:50am
the guy forecasted silver gold and eu's drop. and s&p and dow. not bad.
but i thik u can nail it without payin up $2000. put up a 45 bar cycle and u can easily nail it. or some fib bar count or some other less expensive thign LOL. .
i bet u can.

heres the vid i saw recetnyl on lars

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the success of this trade he made probably made him lots of customers.
(this is not commericalizing this trader)

im not an add carrier but its interesting view on lars.
why its priced 2k?

coz ull make MORE than 2k duh..
thats hwy all wave 59 books and and platform is expensive.
Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #613
  • Feb 16, 2012 12:00pm Feb 16, 2012 12:00pm
yeah, his method is to extract the dominant cycles. And then as price plays out,the cycle tool adjusts dynamically. This helps avoid inversions. But it also means that the forecasts aren't terribly reliable in terms of time. But when they've adjusted, they're golden. You just don't know if/when they'll adjust.

I prefer voodoo over math (haha) and would rather look into the future than constantly revise the cycles based on the past and present. I don't care about the past. Just the present and future.
  • #614
  • Feb 16, 2012 12:10pm Feb 16, 2012 12:10pm
Quoting bumapatria
the guy forecasted silver gold and eu's drop. and s&p and dow. not bad.
but i thik u can nail it without payin up $2000. put up a 45 bar cycle and u can easily nail it. or some fib bar count or some other less expensive thign LOL. .
i bet u can.

heres the vid i saw recetnyl on lars

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb7-P...ature=youtu.be

the success of this trade he made probably made him lots of customers.
(this is not commericalizing this trader)

im not an add carrier but its interesting view on lars.
why its priced 2k?

coz...
Hey, Bumpa. I think Lars is perhaps rather good and smart, but his stuff is way too expensive. It is entirely possible to use primary school maths to work out your own potential turning points (date) and price level. As Gann said, and JR just reminded us: price is time, and time is price.

JR, your intraday forecast is fantastic. I've never even attempted to do it intraday, but find daily very doable. With cable as an example, it can be easily calculated with a spreadsheet that a cycle high is on 9/2/2012 (the actual high is on 8/2/2012) and a low around mid-Feb of 14/2/2012 at 1.5662 (the actual low is 1.5644). But JR's intraday forecast just brings it up to a different level.
  • #615
  • Feb 16, 2012 12:18pm Feb 16, 2012 12:18pm
Quoting JR97
yeah, his method is to extract the dominant cycles. And then as price plays out,the cycle tool adjusts dynamically. This helps avoid inversions. But it also means that the forecasts aren't terribly reliable in terms of time. But when they've adjusted, they're golden. You just don't know if/when they'll adjust.

I prefer voodoo over math (haha) and would rather look into the future than constantly revise the cycles based on the past and present. I don't care about the past. Just the present and future.
to me i was already happy with gannanalyst
just got it and use mt4 ascii ( u mgihta caught the convo with Orion on his thread .. prety long )

but wave 59 sounds cool but i cant really get myself around it . i started looking at the 9-5 count. which earik explained on a video on google videos. fib vortex is cool ..

i think u told me about square root of 2 and theres a tool called "root 2 squares" ill check that out ..

the indicators are cool as well .. higher kinda class of platform than most
Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #616
  • Feb 16, 2012 12:23pm Feb 16, 2012 12:23pm
Quoting Oshawa
Hey, Bumpa. I think Lars is perhaps rather good and smart, but his stuff is way too expensive. It is entirely possible to use primary school maths to work out your own potential turning points (date) and price level. As Gann said, and JR just reminded us: price is time, and time is price.

JR, your intraday forecast is fantastic. I've never even attempted to do it intraday, but find daily very doable. With cable as an example, it can be easily calculated with a spreadsheet that a cycle high is on 9/2/2012 (the actual high is on 8/2/2012)...
yes time = price. thats a nice time trader meme

JR is cool.. all u guys of time trading i was like wtf at first like a "what on earht are thse dudes doing" then a WHAT THE %3223 on the trades...


time trading really is unique, and cool.

excel yes.. u can also go all classic and use a square of nine based on time. and just plot the time degrees on ur chart.
also use a sq9 price level. just clasic gann that is.

ive always felt that theres a higher order in these cycles. away from the markets. as if it was the way it all works. the world.
Have I got something on my face, SOLDIER?
  • #617
  • Feb 16, 2012 1:39pm Feb 16, 2012 1:39pm
Here's how the 1h square played out. The division line ended up not being the reversal point, but an intersection of the 1x1 with other lines was. (highlighted by the yellow square)
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  • #618
  • Feb 16, 2012 1:58pm Feb 16, 2012 1:58pm
Quoting JR97
price = time. That's the gist of it. and by time I don't mean bars. I mean time.
Well the lightbulb hasn't come on yet but I'll keep trying...P/7?
  • #619
  • Feb 16, 2012 8:15pm Feb 16, 2012 8:15pm
This will probably be my last posted forecast ahead of time. I don't like making trading calls or forecasts because I tend to get married to them due to the whole "needing to be right" thing. Which is why I rarely if ever post stuff ahead of time. I prefer to post before/after screenshots after the fact.

My goal was to do these for 3-5 days in a row which I've done just so that I have some established history of making public forecasts ahead of time to give some credibility to the methods. But also make trades based off of the forecasts because that's what matters which I've also done and shown.

Anywho, one of the cool things about the forecast is that you can adjust on the fly and it will usually map out to price pretty well. The hard part is knowing if/when that should be done. I've come to the conclusion that the general structure stays the same hence why I plot the trendline zig zags. And then when I adjust the other parts, the zig zags tend to still fit the pattern but the minute details of the pattern will be more in correlation with price. This is one way to help get around inversions.

It's pretty early for making a forecast, but price is fitting pretty well so why not.

Same EUR/USD 10 min. chart.

http://content.screencast.com/users/...16%2019.04.gif


If you go back and look at all of the screenshots this week, you should see something.
  • #620
  • Feb 16, 2012 8:20pm Feb 16, 2012 8:20pm
Quoting One day!
Well the lightbulb hasn't come on yet but I'll keep trying...P/7?
Price / 7? No. It's more involved than that. The calcs are based on the sq9 with some additional considerations. But those considerations are simple. Just setting time based on price.
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