Trump: 10% global tariff to be imposed on top of other tariffs

mad man should be in asylum not head of a country

Polimini

Feb 20, 2026 5:23pm

So, more 10% tax on Americans. I'm fine with with, i don't care, I'm not American.

It's like watching someone eat sand, you tell them so many times not to do it, at some point you need to just accept the fact they are idiots and let them do their thing and be happy with their special needs.

Trump, you're special buddy, don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise

Feb 20, 2026 12:48pm

Quoting E.Seitan

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I was expecting something like this. He takes his anger out on the SCOTUS and throws it into raising the tariffs which he can still keep. This is honestly kind of embarrassing coming from POTUS but honestly once again, since we are speaking about Trump nothing surprises me.

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Yeah, it was always coming.

That said, Trump did just say something that is very true: "we had uncertainty, now we no longer have uncertainty". There's merit to that. This decision was always looming, alongside what POTUS would do, but now there's some knowledge of what is going to happen moving forward.

Ha - what a great question the reporter just asked: "sir, you said we would be financially defenseless if SCOTUS shot down the tariffs". President: "No, now we will be much stronger". I am happy for that, BUT, why the fear tactics earlier...he knew. We knew. But the public doesn't know he's not speaking the truth when he says the world will end if they kill tariffs.

VIX still hasn't fallen enough for me to be comfortable though....we need another 1 or 2 pts off the board.

...moving in the right direction....but hitting resistance. Burst through, or retrace?? Depends: are you a bull or bear?

NotAtrader

Feb 20, 2026 1:58pm

Quoting Ferna

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Fuck em Trump - you've got supporters everywhere. We can't afford another circus with the liberals. There is only one way to deal with these kind of bullies.

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Your head is full of shit. Stop talking. It smells rotten.

You are encouraging the POTUS to do things against the law? You can share a bed in the jail with him

Feb 20, 2026 12:41pm

Quoting The Fool

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Who pays the tariffs?

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Me. And, as long as the market keeps going up 20% per year, I will...I could do without the downside pressures due to announcements though.

Feb 20, 2026 12:43pm

I was expecting something like this. He takes his anger from the SCOTUS ruling, and throws it into raising the tariffs which he can still keep. This is honestly kind of embarrassing coming from POTUS but honestly once again, since we are speaking about Trump nothing surprises me.

Feb 20, 2026 12:46pm

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Gold buy or sell?

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This sort of stuff is so annoying...
Try to learn something about how this industry works before writing stuff on Forex Factory.
Not to say that having to write this question and waiting for a response is extremely inefficient if you are actually trying to make money.

Feb 20, 2026 1:03pm

Quoting ffghost

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{quote} The president answered that during the Q&A: "they can sue us and we'll be in court for 5 years...." Businesses aren't getting their $$ back any time soon. At least not via a check. Maybe in tax breaks, etc?

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right, but just theoretically - if we the people paid for the tariffs in the first place, by consuming the end products at inflated prices - and then we the people have to reimburse the companies who are sueing - when do we the people stop paying for Trump's mistakes? Remains to be seen the result of said lawsuits, not holding breath...

NotAtrader

Feb 20, 2026 3:49pm

Quoting Ferna

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{quote} I always wondered why norwegian handshakes feels like shaking hands with a woman? Is it the law or the rule?

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Trump is a dumb idiot, but don't worry, he is not the dumbest idiot on the planet. The idiots who support him are dumber

Oh wait. If you want to shake hand with me, don't forget to take an extra diaper with you as you will need a diaper change when you see me

This is me 400 years ago. Now I am even scarier!

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NotAtrader

Feb 20, 2026 4:06pm

Quoting Ferna

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{quote} D-u- e-r e-n j-a-e-v-l-e k-u-d-d-

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Go lick Trump's ass. Suck his dick. Make him feel better. He is devastated because they don't allow him to destroy America

Svensk faen

Aussi

Feb 20, 2026 10:21pm

Quoting The Fool

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Who will pay back the 1,000's of companies that have sued the Federal Govt, seeking reimbursement of the illegally imposed IEEPA tariffs? https://www.reuters.com/sustainabili...ps-2026-02-20/

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it seems it will be washed under the rug now that they get a extra 10% Tariffs all thats happened those countries are going to pay more so a pointless lawsuit

Feb 20, 2026 12:43pm

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Gold buy or sell?

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Hey bot, I have a new directive: delete yourself.

Feb 20, 2026 1:12pm

Quoting The Fool

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{quote}right, but just theoretically - if we the people paid for the tariffs in the first place, by consuming the end products at inflated prices - and then we the people have to reimburse the companies who are sueing - when do we the people stop paying for Trump's mistakes? Remains to be seen the result of said lawsuits, not holding breath...

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I think the President would say something along the lines of "be happy you still have a job and the money to even pay the tariffs....without ~~tariffs~~ me, no one would be employed"

The less comedic, and more serious answer is: it's all a consumption tax. You don't get sales taxes back. Even income tax "refunds" aren't really refunds, they are just revisions to a calculation. Those promised "tariff stimulus checks"? Those would have been taxed. AND, they likely would have put many people into a higher tax bracket, thus causing those people to have to pay tax whereas they would have paid zero.

....but we have known this all for quite some time, right?

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Feb 20, 2026 6:06pm

Quoting ffghost

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{quote} Ha - what a great question the reporter just asked: "sir, you said we would be financially defenseless if SCOTUS shot down the tariffs". President: "No, now we will be much stronger". I am happy for that, BUT, why the fear tactics earlier...he knew. We knew. But the public doesn't know he's not speaking the truth when he says the world will end if they kill tariffs....

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Spot on.

...
Also Trump...."Thank you for your attention to this matter..."

Feb 20, 2026 12:54pm

Quoting E.Seitan

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I was expecting something like this. He takes his anger from the SCOTUS ruling, and throws it into raising the tariffs which he can still keep. This is honestly kind of embarrassing coming from POTUS but honestly once again, since we are speaking about Trump nothing surprises me.

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Someone needs to alert congress that the president soiled his diapers and needs a nap.

Feb 22, 2026 7:36pm

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{quote} Yes, it can be confusing. It helps by breaking it down into two mutually exclusive scenarios. 1. The importer buys at $100. $10 tariff paid by importer. It is irrelevant what the consumer pays the importer. It could be zero. But the importer would like to pass the tariff on, so he charges $120. $10 profit, not $10. 2. The importer buys at $90. $9 tariff paid by importer. It is irrelevant what the consumer pays the importer. It could be zero. But the importer would like to pass the tariff on, so he charges $120. $21 profit, correct. "the...

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The first scenario there is no tariff.

1) Importer pays $100, consumer pays $120, profit is $20. No tariff, no change in exchange rate.
2) Tariff is 10% but exchange rate drops 10%. Importer pays only $90 to exporter because USD is 10% stronger + $9 to gov for tariff, for $99 total. Consumer pays $120 and importer profits $21.

The importer still pays about the same total cost and makes about the same profit. The consumer still pays the same. And the exporter still receives the same in local currency. Where is the $9 for the tariff coming from? It cannot be from the importer, exporter, or consumer since all costs and profits are the same as before the tariff.

The forex market is the only other entity in the chain so that's where the $9 must be coming from. It is what reduced the price of the product by 10% to offset the tariff.

Miran wrote a paper claiming that very thing: that the foreign currency would fall to offset the tariff and no prices would change. The problem is the opposite happened, presumably because the forex market doesn't want to pay the tariff.

Now the importer pays $110 to the exporter because the exchange rate fell 10% + $11 for tariff, for $121 total. The 10% tariff is costing the importer 20%.

Aussi

Feb 20, 2026 10:26pm

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Feb 23, 2026 1:54am

heads exploding

Feb 20, 2026 1:35pm

one word: CLOWN!

Feb 20, 2026 1:21pm

Quoting E.Seitan

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{quote} Yeah, I was expecting a stronger response from the markets too. I guess that the VIX falling is a response, and the whipsaw from the S&P today is something, but we are still going to close the week in green more than likely. Gold is up, so that is another expected response, but it's not as high as I was picturing.

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Admittedly, I was thinking we'd see a MUCH stronger rally today. OpEx. SCOTUS uncertainty off the table. No new, crazy Trump-imposed tariff policy.

/ES tried to pop above the morning highs and failed /nq just failed as well. /rty is just BARELY green on the day, but that is unlikely to hold. If the afternoon rolls over, it could be violent.

Sure, the week is green (for now), but /VX is still above 20. If that dropped to 18 we'd have something.

Now all eyes shift to Iran and the US military build up. /CL has been quietly sitting in the background flat on the day after a run up earlier this week. That is coiling for a move depending on what happens/doesn't happen this weekend. A pissed off president might just want to flex before the SOTU next week...though his speech writers probably don't want the task of re-writing entire sections depending on what Trump does.

Metals popping back up doesn't help equity matters much. Silver is breaking up and through resistance.

I'm glad there's finally green on the board, but it's a scary time of day to be falling back off resistance levels for equities......we've seen this movie before.....

Polimini

Feb 21, 2026 3:42am

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the news has adds now lmao. what the hell

Polimini

Feb 23, 2026 11:28am

my fatigue has fatigue at this point

Feb 23, 2026 2:02pm

My bad. I thought this was a discussion forum.

Ok then, no more complex ideas; just ill-natured mudslinging at the orangetard and his gang of moronmen. Woot!

Feb 20, 2026 12:51pm

Who will pay back the 1,000's of companies that have sued the Federal Govt, seeking reimbursement of the illegally imposed IEEPA tariffs?

https://www.reuters.com/sustainabili...ps-2026-02-20/

Feb 20, 2026 12:58pm

Quoting FlyingTurtle

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{quote} If the tariff is 10% and the foreign currency declines 10%,

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debasement of the USD is the Trump plan. Regardless, I keep asking this sme question because Trump keeps lying, pretending the tariffs are not a sales tax paid by US importers and end consumers.

LightchaserG

Feb 20, 2026 2:02pm

Quoting Ferna

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Fuck em Trump - you've got supporters everywhere. We can't afford another circus with the liberals. There is only one way to deal with these kind of bullies.

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You so funny! you like gaslighting people. hilarious :-p (stop it, my stomach hurts)

Feb 20, 2026 12:57pm

Quoting The Fool

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Who will pay back the 1,000's of companies that have sued the Federal Govt, seeking reimbursement of the illegally imposed IEEPA tariffs? https://www.reuters.com/sustainabili...ps-2026-02-20/

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The president answered that during the Q&A: "they can sue us and we'll be in court for 5 years...."

Businesses aren't getting their $$ back any time soon. At least not via a check. Maybe in tax breaks, etc?

Feb 20, 2026 1:08pm

Whomever told Trump "keep repeating 'Great certainty has been brought back to the economy'" was a genius...because without that reminder, who knows how far off the rails this thing could have gone.

....still no break down in the VIX nor a break through in the equities though. Gearing up for a potentially heartbreaking afternoon for us bulls, despite what the charts suggest regarding breakouts.

....someone quick, go inject a few hundred billion into the system and get these algos pumping higher...

Danger-Mouse

Feb 21, 2026 6:07pm

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wonder why Aussi doesn't want to move to the good ol US of A, given that he's quite happy for them to screw over his OWN country on tariffs

. He's just like Ferna, their tongues so far up Trump's butt your can't even make out what they are trying to say anymore

. Sad

Feb 20, 2026 12:51pm

Quoting The Fool

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Who pays the tariffs?

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If the tariff is 10% and the foreign currency declines 10%, then who is paying the tariff? The importer pays the same as before the tariff, the exporter still gets the same in their local currency, and the consumer still pays what they paid before. Where is the tariff money coming from? Interesting contemplation.

Feb 20, 2026 1:15pm

Quoting The Fool

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{quote}debasement of the USD is the Trump plan. Regardless, I keep asking this sme question because Trump keeps lying, pretending the tariffs are not a sales tax paid by US importers and end consumers.

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Miran wrote a paper making the case that tariffs would cause the USD to rise, which would offset the tariff and not change prices (while overlooking the fact that if tariffs did not raise prices then they would defeat the purpose of incentivizing domestic production). But if not for the sell america trade, Miran would be right that the USD would go up and offset the tariff because less USD is sent overseas, so there would be a shortage. Evidently the forex market does not want to pay his tariffs, so it's not playing along lol

Feb 20, 2026 11:51pm

Quoting FlyingTurtle

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{quote} If the tariff is 10% and the foreign currency declines 10%, then who is paying the tariff? The importer pays the same as before the tariff, the exporter still gets the same in their local currency, and the consumer still pays what they paid before. Where is the tariff money coming from? Interesting contemplation.

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The tariff liability is on the amount of the USD as calculated at the USD/Yen rate at the time/date of the sale, however defined. If the invoice is in USD, easy.

A commercial risk is borne either by the exporter or importer depending on arrangements. Hello hedging. Any subsequent fluctuations in between the time of sale and the time of settlement is irrelevant to the quantum of tariff liability.

Feb 21, 2026 8:51pm

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{quote} The tariff liability is on the amount of the USD as calculated at the USD/Yen rate at the time/date of the sale, however defined. If the invoice is in USD, easy. A commercial risk is borne either by the exporter or importer depending on arrangements. Hello hedging. Any subsequent fluctuations in between the time of sale and the time of settlement is irrelevant to the quantum of tariff liability.

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It's just a thought experiment. If an importer pays $100 for something from another country, then sells it for $120 to the consumer, then he makes $20 profit. But a 10% tariff and a 10% decline in the foreign currency means the importer now only pays $90 to the exporter but also has to pay $9 to the government for a total cost of $99, which he sells to the consumer for $120, making $21 profit. If the consumer pays the same, the importer pays the same ($99 vs $100), and the exporter gets the same in his local currency, then where is the $9 coming from that the government collects?

Feb 21, 2026 9:35pm — Edited

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{quote} It's just a thought experiment. If an importer pays $100 for something from another country, then sells it for $120 to the consumer, then he makes $20 profit. But a 10% tariff and a 10% decline in the foreign currency means the importer now only pays $90 to the exporter but also has to pay $9 to the government for a total cost of $99, which he sells to the consumer for $120, making $21 profit. If the consumer pays the same, the importer pays the same ($99 vs $100), and the exporter gets the same in his local currency, then where is the $9...

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Yes, it can be confusing. It helps by breaking it down into two mutually exclusive scenarios.

1. The importer buys at $100. $10 tariff paid by importer. It is irrelevant what the consumer pays the importer. It could be zero. But the importer would like to pass the tariff on, so he charges $120. $10 profit, not $10.

2. The importer buys at $90. $9 tariff paid by importer. It is irrelevant what the consumer pays the importer. It could be zero. But the importer would like to pass the tariff on, so he charges $120. $21 profit, correct.

"the importer pays the same ($99 vs $100)" No. The $99 was $90 + $9 tariff. The $100 is pre-tariff. Two different things, not the same.

Feb 22, 2026 11:56pm

Quoting FlyingTurtle

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The importer still pays about the same total cost and makes about the same profit. The consumer still pays the same. And the exporter still receives the same in local currency. Where is the $9 for the tariff coming from? It cannot be from the importer, exporter, or consumer since all costs and profits are the same as before the tariff.

The forex market is the only other entity in the chain so that's where the $9 must be coming from. It is what reduced the price of the product by 10% to offset the tariff.

Miran wrote a paper ...

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Best leave it there with an appeal to authority then, eh?

Feb 23, 2026 9:11am

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{quote} Best leave it there with an appeal to authority then, eh?

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It's a thought experiment. There is no claim for an appeal to any authority, nor any authority mentioned. Are you sure you're reading my post? Grok and Gemini had no trouble with it.

Feb 23, 2026 9:17am

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{quote} There is no claim for an appeal to any authority, nor any authority mentioned. Are you sure you're reading my post? .

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Don't do that. There is a word for doing that.

"Miran wrote a paper claiming that very thing"

Feb 23, 2026 9:32am

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{quote} Don't do that. There is a word for doing that. "Miran wrote a paper claiming that very thing"

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As I pointed out, Miran was wrong, so how can he be an authority? And what point would I be appealing to his supposed authority?

A word for doing what?

Feb 23, 2026 9:49am

Quoting FlyingTurtle

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{quote} As I pointed out, Miran was wrong, so how can he be an authority? And what point would I be appealing to his supposed authority? A word for doing what?

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Yes, the opposite occurred - the USD got weaker so imports got more expensive.

Not stronger as in the scenario that you painted.

An "authority" is some individual with skin in the game who is supposed to know (broadly defined) what they are talking about. Miran is an "authority".

Stop wasting my time and get your facts 100% correct before you post any more thought experiments.

Feb 23, 2026 11:19am

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{quote} Yes, the opposite occurred - the USD got weaker so imports got more expensive. Not stronger as in the scenario that you painted. An "authority" is some individual with skin in the game who is supposed to know (broadly defined) what they are talking about. Miran is an "authority". Stop wasting my time and get your facts 100% correct before you post any more thought experiments.

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Somehow my ridicule of Miran you interpreted as appealing to authority? If your time is being wasted it is because you haven't read and understood what I wrote.

IF (conditional hypothetical) what Miran said were true (exchange rate declines to offset tariff) then who pays the tariff? My hypothetical example was to show the forex market, by reducing the exchange rate to discount the product, is the only one that could pay the tariff, because nothing else in the scenario changed.

But Miran was wrong (USD got weaker, not stronger). Why? My theory is the forex market did not want to pay the tariff, so the burden was thrust back onto the importer, and then some.

It's impossible to prove intent, so my theory cannot be proved, but it relies on no appeals to authority; just empirical observation.

Grok and Gemini had absolutely no difficulty understanding, so I don't know why you're having such trouble. Maybe it's some unyielding political bias that prevents you from seeing that it is possible for entities other than the importer to pay tariffs if they choose to (ie consumers, exporters, forex markets).

1) The exporter could discount the product to offset the tariff and in that case the exporter is paying the tariff.
2) The consumer could agree to pay a higher price and therefore pay the tariff.
3) The forex market could adjust the exchange rate to offset the tariff and therefore pay the tariff.

If you're imprisoned into thinking only the importer can pay the tariff then it's impossible for you to understand, and yes we would be wasting time.

Feb 20, 2026 1:05pm

Quoting ffghost

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{quote} Yeah, it was always coming. That said, Trump did just say something that is very true: "we had uncertainty, now we no longer have uncertainty". There's merit to that. This decision was always looming, alongside what POTUS would do, but now there's some knowledge of what is going to happen moving forward. Ha - what a great question the reporter just asked: "sir, you said we would be financially defenseless if SCOTUS shot down the tariffs". President: "No, now we will be much stronger". I am happy for that, BUT,...

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Yeah, I was expecting a stronger response from the markets too. I guess that the VIX falling is a response, and the whipsaw from the S&P today is something, but we are still going to close the week in green more than likely. Gold is up, so that is another expected response, but it's not as high as I was picturing.

Feb 20, 2026 1:46pm

Quoting ffghost

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{quote} Admittedly, I was thinking we'd see a MUCH stronger rally today. OpEx. SCOTUS uncertainty off the table. No new, crazy Trump-imposed tariff policy. /ES tried to pop above the morning highs and failed /nq just failed as well. /rty is just BARELY green on the day, but that is unlikely to hold. If the afternoon rolls over, it could be violent. Sure, the week is green (for now), but /VX is still above 20. If that dropped to 18 we'd have something. Now all eyes shift to Iran and the US military build up. /CL has been quietly sitting in the background...

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Yeah... Oil is up more than 5% in the last 5 days. This is obviously mainly due to the Trump comments on the matter, but I think we might just see something happening in the Middle East. I'm slightly more bullish on /CL after today too, but not enough to put money on the line just yet...

Feb 20, 2026 1:54pm

Quoting Ferna

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Fuck em Trump - you've got supporters everywhere. We can't afford another circus with the liberals. There is only one way to deal with these kind of bullies.

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And that is?

fenikss14916

Feb 20, 2026 3:34pm

Quoting Ferna

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Fuck em Trump - you've got supporters everywhere. We can't afford another circus with the liberals. There is only one way to deal with these kind of bullies.

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«There’s no fool like an old fool.»

Feb 20, 2026 12:39pm

Who pays the tariffs?

W0lfram

Feb 20, 2026 12:56pm

Just after scotus ruling.. pure comedy

Feb 20, 2026 4:17pm

Feb 20, 2026 3:58pm

more tarifs ha? more pressure on US people and one step closer to the global de-dollarization...this guy is single handedly destroying US economy...

hadi.ch

Feb 20, 2026 4:04pm

this is what happens when someone has only a hammer in his tool box!!!!just more wars more pressure and more tarifs...

cobalt0x

Feb 20, 2026 1:16pm

Quoting ffghost

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{quote} I think the President would say something along the lines of "be happy you still have a job and the money to even pay the tariffs....without tariffs me, no one would be employed" The less comedic, and more serious answer is: it's all a consumption tax. You don't get sales taxes back. Even income tax "refunds" aren't really refunds, they are just revisions to a calculation. Those promised "tariff stimulus checks"? Those would have been taxed. AND, they likely would have put many people into a higher tax bracket,...

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could it be more about the long term debt cycle and protecting the US financial position?

Feb 23, 2026 11:54am

Quoting Polimini

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my fatigue has fatigue at this point

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The answer is elegantly simple.

Feb 23, 2026 3:00pm

Quoting Ferna

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{quote} Get bent four eyes!

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No thanks, I'm straight.

thesaint9

Feb 20, 2026 1:13pm — Edited

Madman. Punishing his own country's consumers with his temper tantrum.

cobalt0x

Feb 20, 2026 1:14pm

Quoting Trader#9930

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Gold buy or sell?

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if AI productivity increases, Gold would decrease and BTC would increase.

Czyker26

Feb 21, 2026 12:15am

then it is on !!!!! EMBARGO !!!!!!!

Trader#AFBF

Feb 20, 2026 12:43pm

is he psycho ??

Maxx07

Feb 20, 2026 1:02pm

I was expecting this

Trader#6C01

Feb 20, 2026 9:34pm

Quoting Polimini

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So, more 10% tax on Americans. I'm fine with with, i don't care, I'm not American. It's like watching someone eat sand, you tell them so many times not to do it, at some point you need to just accept the fact they are idiots and let them do their thing and be happy with their special needs. Trump, you're special buddy, don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise

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This orang old man do not know what he has brought Castatrophe to the American lolzzzzz still have majority ppl supporting him zZZzzzz lolzzzz they are dumb or what zZzzz

Trader#1322

Feb 21, 2026 9:26am

Another 10% from the pockets of Americans for the items they will want to buy! Trump must be America's darling if Americans still buy less goods. America produces nothing and now it doesn't buy anything. Trump, put tariffs on the entire planet at 1000%, I can already see them hanging you by the neck in November.

Trader#9930

Feb 20, 2026 12:41pm

Gold buy or sell?

Trader#C4DD

Feb 20, 2026 12:44pm

the fool pays the tariffs

Trader#9930

Feb 20, 2026 12:49pm

Quoting Trader#C4DD

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the fool pays the tariffs

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I'm not, i have a sell that's why I'm asking

Trader#5FE5

Feb 20, 2026 12:51pm

No you will not, it's clear that USA is not under hostail, so your exception for putting tarifs is not in use anymore, can't you understand ?

Trader#E6A9

Feb 20, 2026 1:39pm

Absolute Chad lol get the commietards mad Don!

Trader#B685

Feb 20, 2026 7:19pm