Canada PM: Relationship with China more predictable than with the US | Metals Mine
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Vancarbon
Jan 16, 2026 4:44am
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Ok let’s talk International Relations :

Trump shunning his allies .

Giving the middle finger to International Law .

Threatening to take (by force) a NATO country , which is non negotiable and not for sale .

Kidnap and Land Grab for resources ( Oil )

Applying tariffs on a whim , ad hoc basis .

Following an Isolationist policy

…..and you wonder why the World is slowly moving towards friendlier countries for trade and investment!!!!

China has been steadfast and pacifist in all these aspects . Now out of those two countries which would an intelligent business minded individual prefer to do trade with ?
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NotAtrader
Jan 16, 2026 3:53am
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Quoting TheDazman
What a fool. He's going to turn Canada into Ukraine.
How so? Trump tries to destroy America and Carney is just trying to help him and Trump will soon get more help also from other countries to achieve his goal.

Anyways Trump wants USA to compete with China by becoming like China. That's a totally dead on arrival strategy. USA will need generations to recover from the daily BS international and domestic policy decisions made by the Trump administration..
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NotAtrader
Jan 16, 2026 4:55am
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Quoting TheDazman
{quote} You need to look at the history and theory of International Relations. We've been in an aberrant "end of history" period since the fall of the Soviet Union but now that the wishful thinking surrounding it has been washed away by events the world is returning to one driven by great power conflict. The dynamics this time are different too, and the U.S. will no longer tolerate the formerly revisionist powers (now the new axis) trying to make inroads into its sphere of influence in order to do things...
While this might be the case, people like Trump, Putin and Xi tend to fail doing their math exercises while trying to divide and share the world between themselves as no one of them takes the Europe factor into their equations. Europe has a population of 750 million and a combined military size of 1.6 million soldiers (only the soldiers), let alone the technological power possessed by Europe. It won't be that easy for the dictator's trio to overwhelm Europe and assimilate it into some kind of human and nature resource.

Besides, before the dictator's trio can manage to find out how exactly they will realize their wet dream, neither Trump, nor Putin or Xi will be around. This dream is dead on arrival and they will soon get a brutal wake up call because countries like Canada, South Korea, Australia, Japan, Philippines, Malaysia, Thailand and many others will have a very easy choice to make as to which side they will fight on. As you see it's not that easy. This will just destroy so much for the humanity only to understand that it was a terrible idea.
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TheDazman
Jan 16, 2026 7:57am
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Quoting Vancarbon
Ok let’s talk International Relations : Trump shunning his allies . Giving the middle finger to International Law . Threatening to take (by force) a NATO country , which is non negotiable and not for sale . Kidnap and Land Grab for resources ( Oil ) Applying tariffs on a whim , ad hoc basis . Following an Isolationist policy …..and you wonder why the World is slowly moving towards friendlier countries for trade and investment!!!! China has been steadfast and pacifist in all these aspects . Now out of those two countries which would an...
That's not International Relations, it's international relations: two different things. What you've listed are events that need to be placed within the wider geopolitical context of international affairs, namely, the system level shift wrought by the CCP engaging in the largest military build-up in Human history. One that has been specifically targeted at crushing Western power and yet was ignored for a long time by Western leaders who bought into the wishful thinking of a "liberal rules-based order".

Great powers drive events and will do what they will whilst the weak suffer what they must. You can place value judgements on it, but that's the natural state of a system without a higher authority who can enforce outcomes across the system. With that in mind, the Americans are simply driving change within their own sphere of influence. For all their theatrics, the lesser powers in the Western system are on board and will remain on board. Consider their limp displays attempts at "policy powering" because that's what it is. For all the noise, shared interests are what endure and few states are going to suddenly "switch sides" to be led by a shadowy authoritarian state that's ruled by a brutal bunch of Communists. Especially Liberal Democratic states which are known for their "Liberal imprudent vehemence" towards non-Democratic states.
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Bakker
Jan 16, 2026 9:55am
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Quoting TheDazman
{quote} That's not International Relations, it's international relations: two different things. What you've listed are events that need to be placed within the wider geopolitical context of international affairs, namely, the system level shift wrought by the CCP engaging in the largest military build-up in Human history. One that has been specifically targeted at crushing Western power and yet was ignored for a long time by Western leaders who bought into the wishful thinking of a "liberal rules-based order". Great powers drive events...
How nice to experience a fresh breeze of common sense and someone who knows what's going on in the world. I wish to salute you my friend.
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TheDazman
Jan 16, 2026 4:10am
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Quoting NotAtrader
{quote} How so? Trump tries to destroy America and Carney is just trying to help him and Trump will soon get more help also from other countries to achieve his goal. Anyways Trump wants USA to compete with China by becoming like China. That's a totally dead on arrival strategy. USA will need generations to recover from the daily BS international and domestic policy decisions made by the Trump administration..
You need to look at the history and theory of International Relations. We've been in an aberrant "end of history" period since the fall of the Soviet Union but now that the wishful thinking surrounding it has been washed away by events the world is returning to one driven by great power conflict. The dynamics this time are different too, and the U.S. will no longer tolerate the formerly revisionist powers (now the new axis) trying to make inroads into its sphere of influence in order to do things like build an A2/AD zone near Panama. Given its proximity to the US and the warming Arctic (and its importance there), Carney is playing a very dangerous game with regards to trying to counter-balance the US.
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DonFF
Jan 16, 2026 5:38am
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Quoting Vancarbon
Ok let’s talk International Relations : Trump shunning his allies . Giving the middle finger to International Law . Threatening to take (by force) a NATO country , which is non negotiable and not for sale . Kidnap and Land Grab for resources ( Oil ) Applying tariffs on a whim , ad hoc basis . Following an Isolationist policy …..and you wonder why the World is slowly moving towards friendlier countries for trade and investment!!!! China has been steadfast and pacifist in all these aspects . Now out of those two countries which would an...
Obviously, China has been in a reverse role compared with America for years!.... Where America only has interests, not friends, and is transactional in its dealings with international partners. China has been constructive in every sense of the world!

China delivers services to most, if not all, of its business partners, starting with the road and belt projects.

What has America done globally that is even close?
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GreatNorth
Jan 16, 2026 8:32am
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You all commenting above are just having a big ol circle jerk and comparing sizes. No one know what is going to happen, and all the doomsday talk and pro talk is nothing but noise. You don't know nothing.
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Trader#F729
Jan 16, 2026 7:45am
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I completely agree with TheDazman.
It's not a Canada-vs-US issue, it's UK elites versus US elites.
The US will drive the UK out of the Americas - whether in an easy or a hard way, including from Greenland.
In the hard-way scenario, Canada’s prospects do not look good.
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DonFF
Jan 17, 2026 7:34am
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Quoting Bakker
{quote} How nice to experience a fresh breeze of common sense and someone who knows what's going on in the world. I wish to salute you my friend.
Wisemen think alike, and fools seldom differ!

Truth does not need agreement from anyone it stands on its own and is irrefutable.

It is simply dumb for anyone on planet Earth to take the dumbest person in the room and expect that they will take your country to great heights!

Any smart company seeking to acquire serious leadership knows it cannot "put its trust" in characters of dubious reputation at best and even a criminal mindset.

Integrity is the cornerstone of Trust. America cannot be expected to be taken seriously when it keeps on sending its worst people for others to "babysit" on the global stage.

America must deal with its own criminals and felons properly and not foist reasonable countries to have to put up with these thugs being passed as leaders!

Solving global problems is not a kindergarten show but serious business!
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TheDazman
Jan 16, 2026 3:20am
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What a fool. He's going to turn Canada into Ukraine.
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Trader#F305
Jan 16, 2026 9:05am
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Quoting DonFF
{quote} Obviously, China has been in a reverse role compared with America for years!.... Where America only has interests, not friends, and is transactional in its dealings with international partners. China has been constructive in every sense of the world! China delivers services to most, if not all, of its business partners, starting with the road and belt projects. What has America done globally that is even close?
lmfao china being constructive? how about unaliving soldiers to take land in india? or its thousands of fishing fleets which steal and destroy other countries ecosystems. Fun fact- China has border disputes with all the countries it borders and also countries it DOESNT border
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oxbuck
Jan 16, 2026 9:23am
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WARNING, Carney: You better take the Monroe doctrine seriously.

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