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Jade Gate
Nov 16, 2025 1:49pm
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It's curious indeed that Bessent felt a need to "reassure". Always a reason to think the opposite is on the horizon. They can have all the metrics they like but China still holds the trump card, or should it be nuts? (oh dear that was an awful pun )
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Schultz
Nov 17, 2025 2:07am
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Quoting Trader#D248
{quote} Anyone who can read a chart can clearly see that NVDA has bottomed. ATH next. Easy alpha.
Uh-huh.

Anyone who reads comments like this wants to projectile vomit at the attempt to establish superiority over others.

It's known as vanity. Goes down like a lead balloon.
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Jade Gate
Nov 16, 2025 2:46pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} Irrespective who runs it Jade , it’s a give to directional flow into London open . What London does after that, I’d run with your narrative . I’ve seen huge drops in the Asian session only to be bought back into London open . Also the contrary , so I use London as a marker into the US cash open . Then it’s game on , algorithms generally follow the trend ( without no news flow of course ) . I’ve taught myself to buy every squeeze to the last pip and sell every tick to the last drop , irrespective of how far up / down the indices have risen/...
What I am looking for this week is market selling into indices strength. There are a number of silent signals going on. Some of the Mag 7 boys been offloading their personal holdings and going into cash. The shift in the bond market to very short term holds. The increase in put options. Gold and crypto also going into cash. Just things to watch.
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W0lfram
Nov 16, 2025 3:41pm
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Quoting DwnUndrTrdr
{quote} It seems everyone seems to think they have everyone else by the proverbials. Unusual times we live in… {image}
Big beautiful Bill...
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Vancarbon
Nov 16, 2025 2:20pm
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Quoting Jade Gate
{quote} I think the Asian session is more run by the US trading desk juniors holding the fort, and/or the bots doing likewise. I don't put much store in what Asia does, but when Frankfurt and then the London crew get on board, that is certainly worth trading, especially from 7am London time (bec Frankfurt have a habit of getting it wrong). Even when the FTSE opens at 8am, I always wait an hour for the initial hysterics to pass, then price seems to settle into the direction it's gonna go. And cross country instructions given from NYC to London by...
Irrespective who runs it Jade , it’s a give to directional flow into London open .

What London does after that, I’d run with your narrative . I’ve seen huge drops in the Asian session only to be bought back into London open . Also the contrary , so I use London as a marker into the US cash open . Then it’s game on , algorithms generally follow the trend ( without no news flow of course ) .
I’ve taught myself to buy every squeeze to the last pip and sell every tick to the last drop , irrespective of how far up / down the indices have risen/ fallen .

It’s a hard methodology to follow but watch when it happens and, it’s plain and simple -Hard Down until every pip is extracted , the opposite is also true . A squeeze up will be squeezed until your nuts hurt .
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Vancarbon
Nov 16, 2025 4:03pm
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Watch for an inside candle tomorrow .

Lower support has to hold from last week , there’s going to be a lot of volatility into Nvidia . However the insiders already know the results .

How the data is interpreted is anyone’s guess .
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 2:06pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
Watch the Asia session for traction in either direction , London session takes over at 8am but 7am fake can be a good marker for the days directional flow. London generally gives a trading bias before the US open , its generally a gap and go or the reversal pop and drop once the US is open. Timeframes essential into all 3 of these sessions . All waffle but something I watch for
GREAT....now you are asking me to stay awake until 3AM local time...thanks VC :-P
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 2:36pm
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Quoting Jade Gate
{quote} Someone enjoys the thought of being spoiled rotten . Question is, does she like to share?
Hey now you two...there are children present in these forums.

...then again, I guess they gotta figure out where they came from at SOME point....AI can't do EVERYTHING (at least not yet....)
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 6:29pm
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Quoting Trader#AB39
Yep, no surprise, bitcoin bounce now SPX showing measurable gap up tomorrow.
Yeah, I can measure it. 0 pts showing at the moment :-P



Like fishing and coming home with a story about a 14lb, 3ft 9in monster! (reality below)
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Schultz
Nov 16, 2025 1:45pm
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'I AM CONFIDENT' CHINA WILL HONOR AGREEMENTS ON RARE EARTHS

As confident as China is that Trump won't bump his toe or have a squabble with Melania and being all flustered and upset he decides to nuke Venezuela?

You go set up the dashboard of your demands that China meet. I'm sure they will mighty appreciate that sir.
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Schultz
Nov 16, 2025 2:05pm
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Quoting Jade Gate
It's curious indeed that Bessent felt a need to "reassure". Always a reason to think the opposite is on the horizon. They can have all the metrics they like but China still holds the trump card, or should it be nuts? (oh dear that was an awful pun )
China is watching Trump and his disciples perspire with some amusement. They are in absolutely no hurry, unlike Bessent and his blistering timeline.

The US fucked with China, and that displeased them. Shouldn't do that, you know.
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Jade Gate
Nov 16, 2025 1:19pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
IG suddenly showing weekend trading as a gap down open Sunday evening . Haven’t had a gap down Sunday opening for a while . Interesting to see if the retail BTD brigade buy the fill or we get a gap and go . Interesting times .
It's only a little gap, more a weekend liquidity issue methinks. NVDA earnings Wednesday. FOMC Wednesday too, then NFP data on Thursday. Going to be a rather roller-coaster week imo. Sometimes the side game is more profitable and safer than the indices. Not to mention spreads are likely to spike considerably, especially during NFP data release.
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Jade Gate
Nov 16, 2025 2:06pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
Watch the Asia session for traction in either direction , London session takes over at 8am but w7 am fake calm be a good marker for the days directional flow. London generally gives a trading bias before the US open , its generally a gap and go or the reversal pop and drop once the US is open. Timeframes essential into all 3 of these sessions . All waffle but something I watch for
I think the Asian session is more run by the US trading desk juniors holding the fort, and/or the bots doing likewise. I don't put much store in what Asia does, but when Frankfurt and then the London crew get on board, that is certainly worth trading, especially from 7am London time (bec Frankfurt have a habit of getting it wrong). Even when the FTSE opens at 8am, I always wait an hour for the initial hysterics to pass, then price seems to settle into the direction it's gonna go. And cross country instructions given from NYC to London by then as well. Notwithstanding once the US equity markets open they do so love to take out stops above and below and then send it wherever the f*ck they want.
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Jade Gate
Nov 16, 2025 2:12pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} GREAT....now you are asking me to stay awake until 3AM local time...thanks VC :-P
What ??? We in the Antipodes have to do that regularly now that we're on daylight saving time and you lot in the northern hemisphere are off it. Sux big time, totally stuffs up everything to 2 hours later than normal. Think I'll go shack up with Van, make life so much easier.
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Jade Gate
Nov 16, 2025 2:32pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} It’ll cost ya , plus you’ll have to explain to the new girl in tow . However I’m easy going , so why not
Someone enjoys the thought of being spoiled rotten . Question is, does she like to share?
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Vancarbon
Nov 16, 2025 11:38am
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IG suddenly showing weekend trading as a gap down open Sunday evening . Haven’t had a gap down Sunday opening for a while . Interesting to see if the retail BTD brigade buy the fill or we get a gap and go .

Interesting times .
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Vancarbon
Nov 16, 2025 1:43pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} Of course, the total number of "clients" could simply be 5 guys in a dinghy frustrated that they haven't been getting any bites for the past 3 hours and the beer is now gone so they decide to take their anger out on the market, but I digress... ...
On I don’t know ghost.

5 guys in a dinghy sounds a good enough reason for me , perfectly valid and rational . Particularly with the no beer included clause , they must be livid !

Well England beat New Zealand at Rugby and Ireland trounced the Aussies ( sorry Oz ) , so I can only assume it was those guys who were fishing .
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Vancarbon
Nov 16, 2025 1:58pm — Edited
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Watch the Asian session for traction in either direction , London session takes over at 8am but 7am fake can be a good marker for the days directional flow.

London generally gives a trading bias before the US open , its generally a gap and go or the reversal pop and drop once the US is open. Timeframes essential into all 3 of these sessions .

All waffle but something I watch for
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Vancarbon
Nov 16, 2025 2:22pm
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Quoting Jade Gate
{quote} What ??? We in the Antipodes have to do that regularly now that we're on daylight saving time and you lot in the northern hemisphere are off it. Sux big time, totally stuffs up everything to 2 hours later than normal. Think I'll go shack up with Van, make life so much easier.
It’ll cost ya , plus you’ll have to explain to the new girl in tow . However I’m easy going , so why not
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Vancarbon
Nov 17, 2025 1:27pm
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The 3 session provides a great framework for understanding the logistics at play in this dynamic volatile market.

Whipsaw action between certain levels , whilst the fast money exits. It’ll be interesting to see how Nvidia plays out on Wednesday .

It just shows there’s more than one way to interpret a chart .
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Vancarbon
Nov 17, 2025 1:54pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} Beyond ugly candles for Friday/Monday. After that much sentiment shift Friday from lows > close, today shouldn't have dipped that much. I am getting VERY fearful. NVDA is the only thing that can save the market and I don't really think it will. It likely beats on all fronts but still gets whacked like so many of its peers. The move from overnight to right now is just as bearish as bearish can be. If there is no major rally into the close (and why would there be with vol expanding so much?) it opens up the possibility for a horrific week....
It is ghost . However, this could be the flush out before the potential rise into the latter two weeks of November. I won’t explain my rationale behind that statement on here I’ll send you a pm .

It’s not over yet , it’s still early days into the week and Nvidia will likely cause a short squeeze into results . I’m not as bearish as yourself , however I concede the charts have shown a cross on certain timeframes which aren’t bullish at all.
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 1:34pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
IG suddenly showing weekend trading as a gap down open Sunday evening . Haven’t had a gap down Sunday opening for a while . Interesting to see if the retail BTD brigade buy the fill or we get a gap and go . Interesting times .
While I think we all agree on the value of IG weekend figures being mixed at best, it is interesting (and disheartening) to see what was a +0.3% and 71% of clients long the market (last night) shift to a -0.22% and 54% of clients short.

Of course, the total number of "clients" could simply be 5 guys in a dinghy frustrated that they haven't been getting any bites for the past 3 hours and the beer is now gone so they decide to take their anger out on the market, but I digress...

I don't think we were ever going to see a big gap up THIS weekend (unlike last weekend) despite the similarity in the Friday market action. Reason being, there is no big news on the horizon akin to the government reopening. Personally, I would prefer a flat(ish) open that then rises vs. a big gap that begs to get filled. What I REALLY don't want to see is overnight uncertainty surrounding the data that is projected to be released this week + NVDA earnings turbulence.

FWIW: the change in sentiment basically happened when these Bessent comments surfaced. Go figure.

Good luck this week everyone!
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 1:37pm
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Quoting Jade Gate
{quote} It's only a little gap, more a weekend liquidity issue methinks. NVDA earnings Wednesday. FOMC Wednesday too, then NFP data on Thursday. Going to be a rather roller-coaster week imo. Sometimes the side game is more profitable and safer than the indices. Not to mention spreads are likely to spike considerably, especially during NFP data release.
The IG weekend spreads always make me wonder as well. If the instrument is -50 pts, but the spread is 30 pts, someone coming in on the "buy" side knocks off 15 pts of the negative sentiment. Pretty darn significant for one contract :-P

Gold looks flat, but crypto continues to take it on the chin. BTC (down 1.65% presently). ETH (down 3.5%). Both are off lows from about an hour ago but ETH, as an example had a 6% drawdown from early morning highs to recent lows. That is not an insignificant move....so there's certainly weakness out there for "risk" assets.
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 6:35pm
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***To be completely fair, in the 2 minutes it took me to find that photo, edit it appropriately, and post, the /nq DID rise to new aftermarket highs....BUT....at the time of the previous post, there wasn't much to write home about in the /es, that's for sure. Nothing like a 1% gap higher or anything :-P

....that said, I would VERY MUCH like to see a 1-2% move up into the US cash open. I have been clear on that. I need to lighten up long exposure into NVDA and would really prefer to do it at higher levels than lower, so I'm on board with the "move up is unstoppable" narrative (so long as enough people are convinced to buy presently)!!
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 7:40pm
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Quoting Trader#3EEF
{quote} 1 to 2% gap up? That only happens on very significant news. We have literally no news, and we are slated to gap up over 22 SPX points, I’d say that is very significant considering posters here claiming we were going to gap down. We are over 100 SPX points higher than Friday with the mythical bubble popping, tonight’s move shows incredible resilience.
For what it's worth, nearly everyone on here references a "gap" as the move from Friday's futures close to Sundays's futures open (US time).

There have been MANY 1% gaps between SPX cash market close>open on "no news". It's the futures that are meaningful (in most cases).

Either way, I didn't expect the futures move to be as much as it is currently...and I suspect many others didn't either.
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 7:45pm
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Quoting Trader#D248
{quote} Anyone who can read a chart can clearly see that NVDA has bottomed. ATH next. Easy alpha.
We may have gone to different "chart reading schools". I don't see it as "clearly" being anything. It broke support TLs in the past after bounces like we just saw. That said, the price did seem to respect the latest touch of April>11/7 TL and diyn quite get down to the hot support. But, you won't know if it bottomed until it starts to break through some resistance (still under the down TL from highs) and below the hor res from 11/12. Presently (after hours) it is bumping into the underside of the 20day MA.

As a holder of quite a sizable NVDA position (along with significant exposure via /nq contracts), I do hope it has indeed bottomed and gathers some support into (and after) earnings!
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 7:53pm — Edited
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Quoting Trader#2178
Interesting and important facts if anyone cares. The SPX has gone from 4800 to 6900, a huge move by any standard. The absolute biggest most destructive crash correction since 4800? It’s when we went from, closings, 6753 to 6552 or 201 points which is 2.98%. If you told me the SPX could go up 44% since April and do it without ever once having a 3% or more pullback? I wouldn’t have believed it. But here we are. Markets need healthy corrections or pullbacks, normally most would say at least 5%, and considering the 44% move one would think more like...
SPX doesn't tell the whole story as the futures have done some wild things after hours. The ranges (high>low) have likely supported more than that 3% you mentioned. Just looking at the /es chart, 5500>5130 (6.7%). 6812>6540 (4%). 6953>6655 (4.3%). 6900>6670 (3.3%....off lows from Friday).

I am not saying that we have seen a significant pullback, but there have absolutely been > 3% on multiple occasions.
If you look to the /nq or /rty, you see it even more significantly.



......in other news, what is driving GOOG to near ATHs in the post market here? It just bounced off 296 (a 7.5% up move)...Waymo expansion? Should pump TSLA as well in the coming months thing if robots is can make some headway
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 10:07pm
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Quoting Trader#2FA8
{quote} I don’t trade nq anymore, it’s too few stocks controlling it and billion dollar funds don’t use it for technical analysis. What they use is the SPX specifically, they don’t use es charts. My contention is, in our current market the after hour futures are clearly being run by big bots. They can do it because of the very low volume compared to cash opening. We saw it clearly two Fridays in a row. Overnight trading was the east opposite of cash trading. The overnight es moves are designed to confuse, they do not represent the real money when...
You are right regarding the /nq being a small subset of companies comprising the lion's share. I guess, however, if you look at it on a percentage basis, the SPX is actually controlled by an similar subset. 10% of the NDX equals 70% of the market cap. 10% of the SPX equals 60% of the market cap. I guess the difference is in the total number that comprise that percentage, of course.

As for it being the opposite, I am not entirely sure that your logic is sound there, though. The overnight session, in each case, drove the /nq to the 50ray MA (and the cash market drove it even lower, then rebounded off support). The overnight trading may be lower liquidity, BUT, it can either be in lock step with, or opposing the cash market, that is unknown (and usually data/event driven).

I'd wager the majority of the market gains for any given year (if you want to think of the markets as always going up) take place in the overnight sessions.
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ffghost
Nov 16, 2025 10:10pm
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Quoting Trader#D248
{quote} 271.93 was a key technical level for GOOG to hold. The way it bounced right off that level on Friday was highly indicative of something big brewing. Bernard Baruch's immortal wisdom comes to mind, as Berkshire's investment is announced after market close, once again proving that the chart precedes the news.
I may be missing something, but I don't see any reason the level you mention was a key technical level for GOOG. I see no TL support, nor horizontal (price) support. MAYBE a prior resistance turned support range, but those are hardly ever "fixed" numbers
No moving averages either on the daily timeframe?
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ffghost
Nov 17, 2025 1:45pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
Not quite an inside candle , however if you look at US cash market open prices it could still be within those parameters . Nice bit of two way trading and volatile
Beyond ugly candles for Friday/Monday. After that much sentiment shift Friday from lows > close, today shouldn't have dipped that much. I am getting VERY fearful. NVDA is the only thing that can save the market and I don't really think it will. It likely beats on all fronts but still gets whacked like so many of its peers. The move from overnight to right now is just as bearish as bearish can be.

If there is no major rally into the close (and why would there be with vol expanding so much?) it opens up the possibility for a horrific week. Would be nice to have dry powder and not have thought a double bottom (ish) was in place
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HudithePfupf
Nov 17, 2025 1:38am
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The average price Strategy bought a massive amount of BTC with other peoples money is about 65000 USD. Many copied his strategy and bought even higher.....

One day someone will hunt his stop loss and you don't want to own BTC when this happens.
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DwnUndrTrdr
Nov 16, 2025 2:35pm
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Quoting Jade Gate
It's curious indeed that Bessent felt a need to "reassure". Always a reason to think the opposite is on the horizon. They can have all the metrics they like but China still holds the trump card, or should it be nuts? (oh dear that was an awful pun )
It seems everyone seems to think they have everyone else by the proverbials. Unusual times we live in…
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DwnUndrTrdr
Nov 16, 2025 2:39pm
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Quoting Schultz
{quote} China is watching Trump and his disciples perspire with some amusement. They are in absolutely no hurry, unlike Bessent and his blistering timeline. The US fucked with China, and that displeased them. Shouldn't do that, you know.
I think Bessent is the master of self delusion. I wouldn’t have the constitution to come out day after day and defend the nonsense he has to… then again, I suppose that Argentina bail out helps to strengthen said constitution.
Schultz
Nov 16, 2025 1:55pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
{quote} Well England beat New Zealand at Rugby and Ireland trounced the Aussies ( sorry Oz ) , so I can only assume it was those guys who were fishing .
The teacher for an online course I'm doing is a fine Irish lass. She can trounce me anytime..
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Schultz
Nov 17, 2025 1:59pm — Edited
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Quoting Vancarbon
It’ll be interesting to see how Nvidia plays out on Wednesday . It just shows there’s more than one way to interpret a chart .
Oh, I can tell you now that the results will meet forecast. Maybe exceed. A small chance of a faint glow.

According to Dr Micheal Burry, the books are so deeply cooked you'd need heat shielding to view or touch them. That body cladding and face protection that bomb disposal people wear.

If you saw the film The Big Short, Burry does his due diligence to an exacting standard. He'd read a phone book if he had to.

edit. This says nothing, of course, about how the muppits will react. I know nothing - I don't even watch Nvidia price in real time. I can't. It's probably somewhere, delayed. And now I see that the quoted words are gone.
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Trader#69AE
Nov 16, 2025 8:19pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} SPX doesn't tell the whole story as the futures have done some wild things after hours. The ranges (high>low) have likely supported more than that 3% you mentioned. Just looking at the /es chart, 5500>5130 (6.7%). 6812>6540 (4%). 6953>6655 (4.3%). 6900>6670 (3.3%....off lows from Friday). I am not saying that we have seen a significant pullback, but there have absolutely been > 3% on multiple occasions. If you look to the /nq or /rty, you see it even more significantly. ......in other news, what is driving GOOG to near...
Google is likely Warren’s final big investment, announced Friday after the close.
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Vancarbon
Nov 16, 2025 1:47pm
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Yeah , good luck all .

Including 35T , Expo and Tudor ( the mad Romanian )

Love you all ( and anyone else who I annoy intensely )
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Vancarbon
Nov 17, 2025 12:58pm
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Not quite an inside candle , however if you look at US cash market open prices it could still be within those parameters .

Nice bit of two way trading

and volatile
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Trader#38F5
Nov 16, 2025 10:43am
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Im confident that the crash in bitcoin does not look good. Chart shows room all the way to low 70s if this selling keeps up.
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Trader#8C53
Nov 16, 2025 11:52am
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The es closed a full 10 points higher after cash close, so a gap down of 10 SPX is actually flat. Bitcoin seems to be the catalyst for the slight down tick on IG. But it has stabilized at 94, have to wait and see if it bounces or breaks to new lows.
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Trader#82E6
Nov 16, 2025 2:07pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} The IG weekend spreads always make me wonder as well. If the instrument is -50 pts, but the spread is 30 pts, someone coming in on the "buy" side knocks off 15 pts of the negative sentiment. Pretty darn significant for one contract :-P Gold looks flat, but crypto continues to take it on the chin. BTC (down 1.65% presently). ETH (down 3.5%). Both are off lows from about an hour ago but ETH, as an example had a 6% drawdown from early morning highs to recent lows. That is not an insignificant move....so there's certainly weakness...
Exactly. As the smartest, best looking, strongest, fastest, and coolest person here, I approve your message.

The IG spreads are very wide and the volume incredibly low. It’s nice to check for direction but they rarely get magnitude correct. Bitcoin is what to watch and 94 is the level to focus on, bounce probably coming, but if we get a confirmed break lower it’s not great. Might have to wait all the way until Nvidia earnings are Flash Gordon. (savior of the universe)

A bull market is a bull market until it isn’t, we all see obvious support levels under 6700, and if we can’t breach those the market has no choice but to go higher.
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Trader#5177
Nov 16, 2025 3:36pm
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Bitcoin 94 broke but not much follow through, IG showing a little more down in response. Could just be more of the same, let it fall into the SPX 6600s so they can buy Nvidia on the cheap. But this is a strange market, feels like it is confused and waiting for confirmation before breaking out of this narrow range, we’ve spent two months bouncing back and forth around this same level. I’m not going to bet on it, but if I did I’d bet the next breakout will be signaled on Wednesday evening.
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Trader#3EEF
Nov 16, 2025 6:40pm
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Quoting ffghost
***To be completely fair, in the 2 minutes it took me to find that photo, edit it appropriately, and post, the /nq DID rise to new aftermarket highs....BUT....at the time of the previous post, there wasn't much to write home about in the /es, that's for sure. Nothing like a 1% gap higher or anything :-P ....that said, I would VERY MUCH like to see a 1-2% move up into the US cash open. I have been clear on that. I need to lighten up long exposure into NVDA and would really prefer to do it at higher levels than lower, so I'm on board with the "move...
1 to 2% gap up? That only happens on very significant news. We have literally no news, and we are slated to gap up over 22 SPX points, I’d say that is very significant considering posters here claiming we were going to gap down. We are over 100 SPX points higher than Friday with the mythical bubble popping, tonight’s move shows incredible resilience.
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Trader#D248
Nov 16, 2025 7:23pm
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Quoting Vancarbon
Watch for an inside candle tomorrow . Lower support has to hold from last week , there’s going to be a lot of volatility into Nvidia . However the insiders already know the results . How the data is interpreted is anyone’s guess .
Anyone who can read a chart can clearly see that NVDA has bottomed. ATH next. Easy alpha.
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Trader#2178
Nov 16, 2025 7:26pm
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Interesting and important facts if anyone cares. The SPX has gone from 4800 to 6900, a huge move by any standard.

The absolute biggest most destructive crash correction since 4800? It’s when we went from, closings, 6753 to 6552 or 201 points which is 2.98%. If you told me the SPX could go up 44% since April and do it without ever once having a 3% or more pullback? I wouldn’t have believed it. But here we are.

Markets need healthy corrections or pullbacks, normally most would say at least 5%, and considering the 44% move one would think more like 10%. But the market has never once tried to follows through on any down moves, just vertical buying. So if we follow the obvious trend, we will go significantly higher without ever having a real pullback, until of course it crashes.
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Trader#2FA8
Nov 16, 2025 8:11pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} SPX doesn't tell the whole story as the futures have done some wild things after hours. The ranges (high>low) have likely supported more than that 3% you mentioned. Just looking at the /es chart, 5500>5130 (6.7%). 6812>6540 (4%). 6953>6655 (4.3%). 6900>6670 (3.3%....off lows from Friday). I am not saying that we have seen a significant pullback, but there have absolutely been > 3% on multiple occasions. If you look to the /nq or /rty, you see it even more significantly.
I don’t trade nq anymore, it’s too few stocks controlling it and billion dollar funds don’t use it for technical analysis. What they use is the SPX specifically, they don’t use es charts. My contention is, in our current market the after hour futures are clearly being run by big bots. They can do it because of the very low volume compared to cash opening. We saw it clearly two Fridays in a row. Overnight trading was the east opposite of cash trading. The overnight es moves are designed to confuse, they do not represent the real money when cash trades.
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Trader#D248
Nov 16, 2025 8:43pm
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Quoting ffghost
{quote} SPX doesn't tell the whole story as the futures have done some wild things after hours. The ranges (high>low) have likely supported more than that 3% you mentioned. Just looking at the /es chart, 5500>5130 (6.7%). 6812>6540 (4%). 6953>6655 (4.3%). 6900>6670 (3.3%....off lows from Friday). I am not saying that we have seen a significant pullback, but there have absolutely been > 3% on multiple occasions. If you look to the /nq or /rty, you see it even more significantly. ......in other news, what is driving GOOG to near...
271.93 was a key technical level for GOOG to hold. The way it bounced right off that level on Friday was highly indicative of something big brewing. Bernard Baruch's immortal wisdom comes to mind, as Berkshire's investment is announced after market close, once again proving that the chart precedes the news.
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Trader#AB39
Nov 16, 2025 5:26pm
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Yep, no surprise, bitcoin bounce now SPX showing measurable gap up tomorrow.
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Trader#8B70
Nov 16, 2025 9:23pm
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Stop applying tariffs to other countries and start the negotiation will be turn out to be a fair deal lolzzzz this guy is GG zZzZzzz
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Trader#F393
Nov 16, 2025 11:57pm
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Your balls are being squeezed tight that you cannot pee
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