US 30-Year Treasury Yield Reaches 5% For The First Time Since July 18 | Metals Mine
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Foxikus
Sep 3, 2025 8:25am
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Quoting Polimini
it's the UK, US and Japan, they are all rising, it's a sell off. The money printing days are catching up to everyone, the market doesn't trust them anymore.
+France
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Luxyus
Sep 3, 2025 2:37am
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Quoting Steven1
30 year bonds are useless. very little of them sold. 10 year bonds is what counts - everything in the markets is related to the 10 year bonds
i would say 2y and 10y.
nothing is useless anyway.
Polimini
Sep 3, 2025 1:00pm
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Quoting Chilis
I agree that all US, UK, Japan and France - fiscal irresponsibility days are over and investor confidence has eroded and they aren't buying the bs anymore. Question is what triggered this all on 1st day after Labor Day?
August is usually a quiet moment. September is when things pick up, labour day is an American holiday, it's just a coincidence, the world doesn't care about that.
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Steven1
Sep 3, 2025 4:04am
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Quoting Schultz
{quote} If Stephen Miran had his way a whole bunch of bonds (of short maturities) would be converted by decree to 100 year maturities. (Amongst other some other pretty interesting stuff, like selling all the federal gold reserves, shh). It's a 42 page pdf. Not bedtime reading. https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/doc...ing_System.pdf So suck eggs Anyway, you'll find that what is nominally known as 30 year bond futures are still actively traded on the CME. Somewhere...
u are really clueless - do some more research. i never said 30 year did not trade - i said 10 year bonds have the most volume and used as a benchmark

The 10-year Treasury yield serves as a benchmark for a wide range of interest rates, including those for mortgages, corporate bonds, and other loans
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Schultz
Sep 3, 2025 3:45am
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Quoting Steven1
30 year bonds are useless. very little of them sold. 10 year bonds is what counts - everything in the markets is related to the 10 year bonds
If Stephen Miran had his way a whole bunch of bonds (of short maturities) would be converted by decree to 100 year maturities. (Amongst other some other pretty interesting stuff, like selling all the federal gold reserves, shh).

It's a 42 page pdf. Not bedtime reading.

https://www.hudsonbaycapital.com/doc...ing_System.pdf

So suck eggs

Anyway, you'll find that what is nominally known as 30 year bond futures are still actively traded on the CME. Somewhere between 1.5 and 2 million contracts open interest. Not the benchmark anymore by any means. It used to be.
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Schultz
Sep 3, 2025 4:14am
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Quoting Steven1
{quote} u are really clueless - do some more research. i never said 30 year did not trade - i said 10 year bonds have the most volume and used as a benchmark The 10-year Treasury yield serves as a benchmark for a wide range of interest rates, including those for mortgages, corporate bonds, and other loans
What is with the aggression?
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Blessed-man
Sep 3, 2025 7:45am
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Irony of Forex, result and interpretations

Yesterday, UK 30yr yield jumped just few basis points to 5.68 and £ lost over 200 pips against the dollar effectively seen as £ negative

Today same 30yr yield has crossed the 5% mark and it is interpreted as $ positive.

Interpretation and market forces are never predictable
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Trader#713A
Sep 3, 2025 10:52am
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Quoting BaliBoyz80
gold movement "uncontrolled", I'm afraid, it will change its value, from safe heaven become trash.
Shoulda picked a better place for yer name. Bali is shithole. It stinks like a fucking sewer there :vomit:

Also shows your intellect is about as sharp as a butter knife. Gold is the only safe haven. Go buy your shittycoin instead. Backed by all of those computer hashes. BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

Gold will never go anywhere. It's the OG fiat. And OG's often make a roaring comeback. Those who choose to ignore history, are bound to repeat it.

Would I exclude this from my portfolio? Sure, if the universe was handing out brain cells and you were preoccupied with the dogshit pile, that one is on you bruddaaaaah.

Carry on.
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Luxyus
Sep 3, 2025 2:23am
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there we go
FRR
Sep 3, 2025 3:11am
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whenever i make it fun. you already know the end.
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Polimini
Sep 3, 2025 8:20am
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it's the UK, US and Japan, they are all rising, it's a sell off.
The money printing days are catching up to everyone, the market doesn't trust them anymore.
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Polimini
Sep 3, 2025 8:33am
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Quoting Foxikus
{quote} +France
true, i forgot France.
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Steven1
Sep 3, 2025 2:33am
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30 year bonds are useless. very little of them sold. 10 year bonds is what counts - everything in the markets is related to the 10 year bonds
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Rich.C
Sep 3, 2025 7:27am
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Which ever way you look at it, Short or Long Bond. For the UK mostly likely outcome is a crisis before the Autumn Budget. For the US, when 30Y yields breach 5% watch how it shoots up!
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jordanvic
Sep 3, 2025 2:38am
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That's my sign to short the dollar.
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Foxikus
Sep 3, 2025 7:51am
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US 30 years above 5% and Japan 30 years above 3.2% is a sign that we are coming to an end.
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Schultz
Sep 3, 2025 3:24am
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Quoting Trader#DC77
will this affect the economy ?
No.
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Schultz
Sep 3, 2025 3:48am
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Quoting ww3361
{quote} A secondary market implying an increasingly costly primary market, impeding fiscal policy, not affecting an economy? Again...just wow.
Are you stalking me?
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ww3361
Sep 3, 2025 3:21am
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Quoting Steven1
30 year bonds are useless. very little of them sold. 10 year bonds is what counts - everything in the markets is related to the 10 year bonds
Just wow.
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ww3361
Sep 3, 2025 3:31am
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Quoting Schultz
{quote} No.
A secondary market implying an increasingly costly primary market, impeding fiscal policy, not affecting an economy?

Again...just wow.
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BaliBoyz80
Sep 3, 2025 8:38am
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gold movement "uncontrolled", I'm afraid, it will change its value, from safe heaven become trash.
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Mujtabaalli
Sep 3, 2025 2:49am
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trading is so boring
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Chilis
Sep 3, 2025 11:57am
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I agree that all US, UK, Japan and France - fiscal irresponsibility days are over and investor confidence has eroded and they aren't buying the bs anymore.
Question is what triggered this all on 1st day after Labor Day?
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ahad.faracov
Sep 3, 2025 2:24am
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good or bad for gold?
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Mohitkhand
Sep 3, 2025 2:28am
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Gold fly
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Junayedkhan
Sep 3, 2025 2:40am
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I8 you are
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Junayedkhan
Sep 3, 2025 2:43am
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Time is money
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Trader#DC77
Sep 3, 2025 2:52am
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will this affect the economy ?
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Trader#60AE
Sep 3, 2025 3:05am
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could this sustain yen weakness as japan is large US bond buyer and will cause more yen being converted to USD to buy high yield bonds or will it cause investors to pull out of USD as a risk off approach causing yen bullishness. interested in your thoughts i think USD being global reserve currency wont cause investors to be worried about USD paying their interest back as they can always print more.
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Trader#1F68
Sep 3, 2025 3:09am
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"The 30-year U.S. Treasury yield is important because it provides insight into long-term economic expectations, reflects the U.S. government's long-term borrowing costs, and serves as a benchmark for longer-term interest rates for investors and businesses."
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NFG
Sep 3, 2025 6:09am
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wow, gold go up
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TraderChad10
Sep 3, 2025 8:49am
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Quoting Trader#7BA9
Gold going up?
Yeah
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BRX1
Sep 3, 2025 11:31am
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Gold Will be rise this week cause the forcast thing is massive
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Trader#2F38
Sep 3, 2025 2:31am
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What does that mean? Why don't they announce in advance when the news is going to be released?
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Trader#7BA9
Sep 3, 2025 2:51am
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Gold going up?
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Trader#64C8
Sep 3, 2025 3:43am
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No one cares, at all.
That’s why equities are rallying like crazy and a tiny bit away from an all time high.
People need to stop trying to trade on click bait articles pretending to be news.
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Trader#DCC1
Sep 3, 2025 3:43am
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It means no one buy the bonds .. US dollar will crashes against most major minor currencies after the fed starts the rate cut cycle while gold bitcoin equities became shining star!
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Trader#A306
Sep 3, 2025 4:47am
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Great news: anything can grow in the Great Again America!
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Trader#5F41
Sep 3, 2025 8:40am
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5% on a 30 year US bond is still a very low level. In a historical range of 2% - 15%. So there is more upside than downside to it.
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