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The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 7:05am
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Quoting Trader#2931
{quote} AwEMyGauD! We WiLl HaVE tO InVeST In AmERIcA AnD Buy AmERiCA MAdE PrODucTS!!!! Once again, and for the thousandth time: Why are other countries retaliating with their own tariffs?
You act as if the US has no tariffs. The US has thousands of tariffs in effect for decades. The issue is a matter of degree. There have never been across-the-board tariffs at the magnitude that Trump is proposing. The last time there were >20% tariffs broadly applied (1910s-1930s) it didn't end well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor..._United_States

Once again and for the 1,100th time: who pays the tariffs? If Trump was honest and called tariffs what they are - a consumption tax on US businesses and, ultimately, a regressive tax on US consumers, do you think the US electorate would be happy about that?

Once again and for the zillionth time - why do we want to re-shore every job that has been off-shored in the last 50 years? Who wants jobs making cheap plastic toys and jock straps? Even Trump has said that's not what we want. But, nevertheless, high tariffs on all imports from countries that sell us that crap.

It's all rent-seeking lust for revenue that the GOP does not have the stomach to gain through taxation.
The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 7:14am
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Who pays the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs?

The $billions that are "pouring into the country"? That's a farce. The US has no mechanism for extracting revenue from other countries. All the tariffs are paid by US businesses. So if US businesses are losing $billions to this new taxation, what does that mean for their profitability, for their viability? What does that mean for inflation?

I keep asking the questions, but none of the MAGA trolls have any answers.
The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 7:33am
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Quoting Trader#2931
{quote} AwEMyGaUD! uNfaIr TRaDe Is BEiNg rheeeNeGotiAtEd! {quote}Why are other countries retaliating with their own tariffs? Is it for their GOP lust to tax consumers?
Reciprocal tariffs have been in place for decades. Tariffs are nothing new. The premise that trade with another country is "unfair" because there's a trade deficit is ridiculous on its face.
OutThere
Jul 16, 2025 7:39am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}https://www.youtube.com/shorts/CODFD3j623E
I know there are many instances of them twisting themselves into a knot.
But I personally like the fact that the Americans are paying it tru the nose. It's their reward for voting for this. Yay
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Vancarbon
Jul 15, 2025 3:32pm
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It’s counterintuitive to say :

“ FIGHTING CHINA 'IN A VERY FRIENDLY FASHION' “

Wrong choice of words . They’re the main competitor globally , unrivalled on a manufacturing basis . You either go head to head , or trade for the mutual benefit of both countries .

“US IS WAY AHEAD OF CHINA “ - I doubt that it is , probably on par .
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The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 2:15am
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Quoting Trader#CE58
I live in the United States. My stance and an overwhelming amount of people from my area of star valley Wyoming are not in agreement with trump and his administration. "A nice fight is not always a nice fight" the way our alliances are going we will lose some important ones, and gain dangerous ones(Isreal included). Let's have this conversation 1 year from now and see where they get us
Donald Trump won the Wyoming vote in the 2024 presidential election.
Based on certified results, he secured 72.3% of the votes, while Kamala Harris received 26.1%.
This gave Trump Wyoming's 3 electoral votes. He also won Wyoming in the 2020 and 2016 presidential elections.
The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 2:41am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote}In effect he is using the US consumerism as a whip to rein in the supplier countries.
Pimping out what America does best, buy shit. Same old rent-seeking game.
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The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 7:29am
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Wake up, numbnuts. The USA was formed in a revolt against taxation. When the US realizes what the Trump tariff regime really is, the MIA GOP will be the first to suffer. I'll drink to the America Party to help speed that along.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_tax...representation
OutThere
Jul 16, 2025 7:31am
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Quoting The Fool
Who pays the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs? Who pays the tariffs? The $billions that are "pouring into the country"? That's a farce. The US has no mechanism for extracting revenue from other countries. All the tariffs are paid by US businesses. So if US businesses are losing $billions to this new taxation, what does that mean for their profitability, for their viability? What does that mean for inflation? I keep asking the questions, but none of the MAGA trolls have any...
Bassy and licknut haven't answered that question yet.
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OutThere
Jul 16, 2025 7:33am
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Quoting Trader#2931
{quote} AwEMyGaUD! uNfaIr TRaDe Is BEiNg rheeeNeGotiAtEd! {quote} The company and/or the consumer does. Once again, and for the thousandth time: Why are other countries retaliating with their own tariffs? Is it for their GOP lust to tax consumers?
Why do you write like a retard?
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The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 7:45am
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Quoting Trader#2931
{quote} Once again, and for the zillionth time: Why are other countries retaliating with their own tariffs?
Now I see. You're just stupid. I've responded to this several times. Reciprocal tariffs have been in place for decades. If Trump raises tariffs by exponential amounts, other countries will reciprocate. Why wouldn't they retaliate? Or not. That's the game. It starts with Trump's increased tariffs. I'm not going to bother responding to you further if you don't even read my responses or are too dumb to understand them.
OutThere
Jul 16, 2025 8:15am
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Quoting Trader#2931
{quote} You haven't answered WHY ARE OTHER COUNTRIES RETALIATING WITH TARIFFS? All you came back with is that they've been in place for decades. Now, I'll ask you one more time: WHY are other countries retaliating with tariffs?
Why shouldn't other countries retaliate with tariffs? I don't think they are retaliating enough.
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The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 8:20am
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Quoting Trader#2931
{quote} You haven't answered WHY ARE OTHER COUNTRIES RETALIATING WITH TARIFFS? All you came back with is that they've been in place for decades. Now, I'll ask you one more time: WHY are other countries retaliating with tariffs?
Why do you think?
The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 8:25am
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Quoting HogTrader
WHY ARE OTHER COUNTRIES RETALIATING WITH TARIFFS? It's because the leaders of those "other countries" are trying to look bad a$$ for their sheep. Problem is: they cannot match the leverage TRUMP has - the 'American consumers'. None of those pip squeak countries have a leg to stand on!
Leveraging sounds nicer than pimping, good job. The premise is that other countries have no choice but to trade with the US. Some do, some don't, for now. I guess we'll find out going forward.
The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 8:26am
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Quoting Trader#2931
{quote} Projection. You won't answer the question because it Trumps (pun intend) your narrative that it's just a tax on consumers
The question is uninteresting. Why are tariffs not a tax on US consumers, then?
The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 8:57am
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Quoting Trader#2931
{quote} I already answered your question about who pays the costs. You keep avoiding my question. I'll ask you another question: do consumers pay tariffs on products made in their own country?
Ignoring is not avoiding. Tariffs are taxes paid by importers on imported goods. Importers can pass on the tax to the ultimate consumer, and probably will. Beyond that, domestic producers of competing goods (probably) will raise their prices to be more in line with the increased price of the goods that are tariffed. This is why tariffs are inflationary. If inflation is not showing up in the momentary inflation data, wait for it, it will arrive.
The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 9:54am
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Quoting Trader#2931
{quote} Does does every country on the planet use tariffs? This is your chance to not like a fool.
The issue is not the existence of tariffs, rather the degree or magnitude of tariffs. Trump is attempting to remake the global trading system and is using tariffs to do that. His premise is that any trade deficit that the US has is evidence that a country is "ripping us off." This is false on its face. He claims that tariffs will force re-shoring of US mfr'ing that has been offshored over the last many decades. That may happen, in a limited way, but I'd argue that only key, strategic industries need re-shoring. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. The USA has grown to be the largest economy on Earth. We are the envy of the world. How did that happen, if the rest of the world has been "ripping us off." This radical reshaping of global trade is not needed and will likely lead to pain for the average American.

You are boring, so this is the last response.
OutThere
Jul 16, 2025 9:54pm
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So nice seeing the Americans paying down their national debt.
They just need to do a whole lot more of that tru paying even higher prices.
Good thing they are the biggest consumers in the world because they can consume their own goods since they are too expensive for export to other countries who haven't stopped buying US goods yet.

US consumer prices rise in June as tariff pass-through begins
https://www.reuters.com/business/us-...es-2025-07-15/
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HogTrader
Jul 16, 2025 8:20am
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WHY ARE OTHER COUNTRIES RETALIATING WITH TARIFFS?
It's because the leaders of those "other countries" are trying to look bad a$$ for their sheep. Problem is: they cannot match the leverage TRUMP has - the 'American consumers'. None of those pip squeak countries have a leg to stand on!
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Trader#88C3
Jul 15, 2025 3:18pm
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no one give the F**K anymore. they just care about CPI INFLATION from 2.4 to 2.7. that is matter. that increase with 10% tariffs. if 20 %-50%. this shit is scary START AUGUST 1ST. hope TACO sleep well next few months. this is so stupid SALE TAX ON AMERICA and he so happy and feel winning. WTF
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Trader#CE58
Jul 15, 2025 5:20pm
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I live in the United States. My stance and an overwhelming amount of people from my area of star valley Wyoming are not in agreement with trump and his administration. "A nice fight is not always a nice fight" the way our alliances are going we will lose some important ones, and gain dangerous ones(Isreal included). Let's have this conversation 1 year from now and see where they get us
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The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 2:16am
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'TRUMP: NATIONS THAT DON'T OPEN UP WILL PAY A SUBSTANTIAL TARIFF"

Once again, and for the thousandth time: who pays the tariffs?
The Fool
Jul 16, 2025 7:34am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Bassy and licknut haven't answered that question yet.
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BTCmailman
Jul 15, 2025 4:32pm
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WILL BE FIGHTING CHINA 'IN A VERY FRIENDLY FASHION'

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Trader#F97A
Jul 15, 2025 3:20pm
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On AI.. Hahahaha.. The dude just dribbles so much crap...

Hey US AI, What tariffs should I impose on the world?

US AI.. A gazillion billion one everyone..

Thx US AI, Ill tweet that now....
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 6:02am
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Quoting The Fool
'TRUMP: NATIONS THAT DON'T OPEN UP WILL PAY A SUBSTANTIAL TARIFF" Once again, and for the thousandth time: who pays the tariffs?
AwEMyGauD! We WiLl HaVE tO InVeST In AmERIcA AnD Buy AmERiCA MAdE PrODucTS!!!!

Once again, and for the thousandth time: Why are other countries retaliating with their own tariffs?
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 7:14am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}You act as if the US has no tariffs. The US has thousands of tariffs in effect for decades. The issue is a matter of degree. There have never been across-the-board tariffs at the magnitude that Trump is proposing. The last time there were >20% tariffs broadly applied (1910s-1930s) it didn't end well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor..._United_States Once again and for the 1,100th time: who pays the tariffs? If Trump was honest and called tariffs what they are - a consumption tax on US businesses and, ultimately,...
AwEMyGaUD! uNfaIr TRaDe Is BEiNg rheeeNeGotiAtEd!

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who pays the tariffs?
The company and/or the consumer does.

Once again, and for the thousandth time: Why are other countries retaliating with their own tariffs? Is it for their GOP lust to tax consumers?
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 7:31am
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Quoting The Fool
Wake up, numbnuts. The USA was formed in a revolt against taxation. When the US realizes what the Trump tariff regime really is, the MIA GOP will be the first to suffer. I'll drink to the America Party to help speed that along. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_tax...representation
Once again, and for the thousandth time: Why are other countries retaliating with their own tariffs? Is it for their GOP lust to tax consumers?
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 7:35am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}Reciprocal tariffs have been in place for decades. Tariffs are nothing new. The premise that trade with another country is "unfair" because there's a trade deficit is ridiculous on its face.

Once again, and for the zillionth time: Why are other countries retaliating with their own tariffs?
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 7:49am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}Now I see. You're just stupid. I've responded to this several times. Reciprocal tariffs have been in place for decades. If Trump raises tariffs by exponential amounts, other countries will reciprocate. Why wouldn't they retaliate? Or not. That's the game. It starts with Trump's increased tariffs. I'm not going to bother responding to you further if you don't even read my responses or are too dumb to understand them.

You haven't answered WHY ARE OTHER COUNTRIES RETALIATING WITH TARIFFS? All you came back with is that they've been in place for decades. Now, I'll ask you one more time: WHY are other countries retaliating with tariffs?
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 8:29am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}The question is uninteresting. Why are tariffs not a tax on US consumers, then?
I already answered your question about who pays the costs. You keep avoiding my question. I'll ask you another question: do consumers pay tariffs on products made in their own country?
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 9:14am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}Ignoring is not avoiding. Tariffs are taxes paid by importers on imported goods. Importers can pass on the tax to the ultimate consumer, and probably will. Beyond that, domestic producers of competing goods (probably) will raise their prices to be more in line with the increased price of the goods that are tariffed. This is why tariffs are inflationary. If inflation is not showing up in the momentary inflation data, wait for it, it will arrive.

Does does every country on the planet use tariffs? This is your chance to not like a fool.
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 10:14am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
As we've watched most of our industries move offshore because we didn't use tariffs properly to protect them. We made China what they are today at the expense of the American people. You don't even know why tariffs are used. You think it's just a tax revenue system.
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 7:32am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Bassy and licknut haven't answered that question yet.
Why is your Country retaliating with tariffs?
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 7:36am
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Quoting OutThere
{quote} Why do you write like a retard?
So you can understand it.
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Trader#2931
Jul 16, 2025 8:22am
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Quoting The Fool
{quote}Why do you think?
Projection. You won't answer the question because it Trumps (pun intend) your narrative that it's just a tax on consumers
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