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  • #50,081
  • Jul 9, 2025 2:06pm Jul 9, 2025 2:06pm
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Now I'm worried about mine. I'll be putting a withdrawal request for 3 x $1500 hopefully next week with FE. I hope I don't have any issues again like the last time.
To avoid this BS better to add addon for scalping....... Thats their biggest weapon to downgrade or flag payout.....

Now i need to make sure to add negative stop loss not a single breakeven stop loss as it'll be counted as scalping even though what boils my blood more is these mofo knit pick specifically few trades and call it as your trading startegy what about rest of 80-90% of trades which followed all criteria's
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  • #50,082
  • Jul 9, 2025 2:14pm Jul 9, 2025 2:14pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} To avoid this BS better to add addon for scalping....... Thats their biggest weapon to downgrade or flag payout..... Now i need to make sure to add negative stop loss not a single breakeven stop loss as it'll be counted as scalping even though what boils my blood more is these mofo knit pick specifically few trades and call it as your trading startegy what about rest of 80-90% of trades which followed all criteria's
can you hedge this trade? open an other position and close later one in bigger win , one in bigger loss?

what do you trade? can you use other trading object for this? like trading as 3 legs or other market same trading object as hedge and close later...... so like virtual closing (will produce a little bit higher costs).
  • #50,083
  • Jul 9, 2025 2:21pm Jul 9, 2025 2:21pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} can you hedge this trade? open an other position and close later one in bigger win , one in bigger loss? what do you trade? can you use other trading object for this? like trading as 3 legs or other market same trading object as hedge and close later...... so like virtual closing (will produce a little bit higher costs).
With prop firms i keep it really simple

1. 1 trade at a time with 1 mini size.
2. Fixed intial tp of 200 (min. 2$ move on gold or 10 points on nq. I also move to based on the setup probability) and stop loss of 300 (Fixed sometimes i reduce but never go beyond).
3. No dca or any other activity
4. Products io trade 70% gold or rest nq
5. When trade is halfway to the profit i move sl to breakeven. Thats why i hit higher number of breakevens
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #50,084
  • Jul 9, 2025 2:27pm Jul 9, 2025 2:27pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} To avoid this BS better to add addon for scalping....... Thats their biggest weapon to downgrade or flag payout..... Now i need to make sure to add negative stop loss not a single breakeven stop loss as it'll be counted as scalping even though what boils my blood more is these mofo knit pick specifically few trades and call it as your trading startegy what about rest of 80-90% of trades which followed all criteria's
how the hell can a stop loss in negative be better than a stop loss at BE?
What about a stop loss at +1-2?
  • #50,085
  • Jul 9, 2025 2:29pm Jul 9, 2025 2:29pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} can you hedge this trade? open an other position and close later one in bigger win , one in bigger loss? what do you trade? can you use other trading object for this? like trading as 3 legs or other market same trading object as hedge and close later...... so like virtual closing (will produce a little bit higher costs).
No, with futures it nets you. Although my futures account on MT5 with Darwinex allows it, internally and on my dash it shows as a net position. I believe all futures platforms net on the platform.
  • #50,086
  • Jul 9, 2025 2:40pm Jul 9, 2025 2:40pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} No, with futures it nets you. Although my futures account on MT5 with Darwinex allows it, internally and on my dash it shows as a net position. I believe all futures platforms net on the platform.
some netting platforms have option, that when you have a takeprofit order connected to this position , they hold it open not netted.

or maybe its possible to use other markets... use dow as close hedge for s&p.......
but only ideas... makes all very complicated just because its prop.
  • #50,087
  • Jul 9, 2025 2:46pm Jul 9, 2025 2:46pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} how the hell can a stop loss in negative be better than a stop loss at BE? What about a stop loss at +1-2?
futureselite mofo count it as a tick scalping.......

Even though then can see trade went 200 or more dollars in profit before hitting 10$ breakeven. Still they say tick scalping.
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  • #50,088
  • Jul 9, 2025 3:12pm Jul 9, 2025 3:12pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} some netting platforms have option, that when you have a takeprofit order connected to this position , they hold it open not netted. or maybe its possible to use other markets... use dow as close hedge for s&p....... but only ideas... makes all very complicated just because its prop.
I'm not sure if hedging with a strong correlated instrument, within the same account, would be a violation or not. But, yep, this would be a way of pleasing those idiots.
  • #50,089
  • Jul 9, 2025 3:23pm Jul 9, 2025 3:23pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I'm not sure if hedging with a strong correlated instrument, within the same account, would be a violation or not. But, yep, this would be a way of pleasing those idiots.
Yes, except when you have tech rotating into blue chip or vice versa.
There are those outlier days where DOW tanks and NAS flies and vice versa.
  • #50,090
  • Jul 9, 2025 3:29pm Jul 9, 2025 3:29pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} futureselite mofo count it as a tick scalping....... Even though then can see trade went 200 or more dollars in profit before hitting 10$ breakeven. Still they say tick scalping.
Monty
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If you just focus on apex 150kx20 ,you may end up making big buck like Jade guy.
on a postive roll...
  • #50,091
  • Jul 9, 2025 3:37pm Jul 9, 2025 3:37pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I'm not sure if hedging with a strong correlated instrument, within the same account, would be a violation or not. But, yep, this would be a way of pleasing those idiots.
yes, thats the problem... over time they will use this against you maybe too... if they are smart enough to find.
  • #50,092
  • Jul 9, 2025 4:00pm Jul 9, 2025 4:00pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I'm not sure if hedging with a strong correlated instrument, within the same account, would be a violation or not. But, yep, this would be a way of pleasing those idiots.
I remember when all the futures props stopped the spreading on 5 and 10 yr some yrs ago. "OH NO YOU CANT DO THAT VALID STRATEGY".
  • #50,093
  • Jul 9, 2025 4:38pm Jul 9, 2025 4:38pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} some netting platforms have option, that when you have a takeprofit order connected to this position , they hold it open not netted. or maybe its possible to use other markets... use dow as close hedge for s&p....... but only ideas... makes all very complicated just because its prop.
The reason why you can’t hedge futures is because it’s not allowed in the US. CME prohibits said strategy.
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #50,094
  • Jul 9, 2025 5:38pm Jul 9, 2025 5:38pm
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  • #50,095
  • Jul 9, 2025 6:45pm Jul 9, 2025 6:45pm
Quoting Rmg
{quote} Monty . If you just focus on apex 150kx20 ,you may end up making big buck like Jade guy.
already made decent money from them last year but the issue was last year i have high eval cost as well doe to apex….

this year i tried twice once in january and once last month both times 90% off and 100$ activation both times failed meaning was like 600$ away asking for 40k payout… thats why my evals cost is very low this year….

i’ll purchase them again with next 90% off
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  • #50,096
  • Edited 11:09pm Jul 9, 2025 9:14pm | Edited 11:09pm
Quoting montygoldy
Alright gents the bullshit continues.... SO futureselites sent this ,....... Instead of 6300 only 2800$ MOfo so breakeven trades are trades are consisdered as scalping. I am going to fight now For context i have added the trades as well they {image} {file}
Mofo for now i give up as they have reason to downsize my payout......... They keep blabbering the same thing

Accepted 2800$ for now......

This aint over yet.......

Not gonna buy any purchases except holding the current 5x50k accounts......

Now i gonna give them taste of their own medicine....

After payout will have 1700 worth of drawdown.... and my acocunts have a 7 days payout policy so...

GOnna aim for 300$ a day and get that next 6300$.... There will be no breakeven trades either L or W. ALso when i wait patiently 1 setup a day, i have a 95% win rate so its going to be 1mini - 300$ win or 300$ lose....


I have moved my focus to Fundingticks their offer is attractive and payout potential is impressively good....
My maths. - 50kx6 - total cost - 486$
Earning potential - Aim for 1500x6 - 9k (90% split)
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #50,097
  • Jul 10, 2025 12:36am Jul 10, 2025 12:36am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} The reason why you can’t hedge futures is because it’s not allowed in the US. CME prohibits said strategy.
I think he was talking about something linke long ES and short YM. Is this forbidden ?

I did already pairs like this in my personal account in IB.
  • #50,098
  • Jul 10, 2025 12:57am Jul 10, 2025 12:57am
Quoting Rmg
{quote} Monty . If you just focus on apex 150kx20 ,you may end up making big buck like Jade guy.
aren t those with intraday trailing?
  • #50,099
  • Jul 10, 2025 1:09am Jul 10, 2025 1:09am
Quoting 1odi
{quote} aren t those with intraday trailing?
yes
on a postive roll...
  • #50,100
  • Edited 5:37am Jul 10, 2025 1:11am | Edited 5:37am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I think he was talking about something linke long ES and short YM. Is this forbidden ? I did already pairs like this in my personal account in IB.
yes, or buying different futures with different expire day or combination of standard/mini/micro future of same trading object.... .
but hedge inside same future was topic too, was both mentioned from me.
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