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  • #49,701
  • Jul 3, 2025 12:52pm Jul 3, 2025 12:52pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Unfortunately, have stopped using FTMO when they blocked MT4/5 from USA. The spreads on the US indices look quite good. Commish free as well still, correct?
yup
  • #49,702
  • Jul 3, 2025 3:02pm Jul 3, 2025 3:02pm
BREAKING NEWS…

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https://www.financemagnates.com/fore...n-risk-models/
  • #49,703
  • Jul 3, 2025 3:15pm Jul 3, 2025 3:15pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
BREAKING NEWS… {image} {image} {image} https://www.financemagnates.com/fore...n-risk-models/
even brokers use B BOOK and C BOOK , a business that runs only A Book in cfds or prop is suicide
  • #49,704
  • Jul 3, 2025 4:18pm Jul 3, 2025 4:18pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} You US boys and girls are really f#%*d, aren’t you? Now even with a clown as president. I wouldn't want to trade places. Wow, that surprises me. I'm not American myself, but I've set up offshore companies several times to avoid such things. Never had any problems so far. 15%. Hehe, I'll think about it ;-)
  • #49,705
  • Edited 5:06pm Jul 3, 2025 4:34pm | Edited 5:06pm
Quoting Novazor
{quote} even brokers use B BOOK and C BOOK , a business that runs only A Book in cfds or prop is suicide
The issue with this approach is that, because of the size of the accounts props are offering and the corresponding requirement to put down a significant amount of margin, it is quite capital demanding.

From AI

„No, not every CFD broker is a B-book broker. While many CFD brokers utilize the B-book model, where they essentially act as the counterparty to client trades, there are also A-book brokers who route client orders to external liquidity providers. Some brokers even employ a hybrid approach, using both A-book and B-book strategies.

Here's a breakdown:

  1. B-Book:
    Brokers take the other side of client trades, essentially acting as a market maker. They profit when clients lose and may face increased risk.
  2. A-Book:
    Brokers route client orders to external liquidity providers (like banks or other financial institutions), who then execute the trades in the real market.
  3. Hybrid:
    Brokers may use a combination of both models, potentially routing less profitable trades to the B-book and more profitable ones to the A-book.

Therefore, it's important to research and understand a broker's execution model before choosing to trade with them. Some brokers, like Pepperstone, specifically state that they use an A-book model and route trades to external liquidity providers. Others, like many prop firms, may primarily use the B-book model“

  • #49,706
  • Jul 3, 2025 5:13pm Jul 3, 2025 5:13pm
Quoting Novazor
{quote} even brokers use B BOOK and C BOOK , a business that runs only A Book in cfds or prop is suicide
this owner was very often not honest with a lot in history already (from own coaching , own trading, his marketing.....) , so there is also a big chance A-booking was just talk around and so not fully true and maybe just mentioned to fake a reason.

of course a game like prop cant be played in a-book, prop in general attracts the bad traders and beginners. .. you will not find enough good traders inside, and even this good traders are often longterm not really good.
  • #49,707
  • Jul 3, 2025 5:38pm Jul 3, 2025 5:38pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} The issue with this approach is that, because of the size of the accounts props are offering and the corresponding requirement to put down a significant amount of margin, it is quite capital demanding. From AI „No, not every CFD broker is a B-book broker. While many CFD brokers utilize the B-book model, where they essentially act as the counterparty to client trades, there are also A-book brokers who route client orders to external liquidity providers. Some brokers even employ a hybrid approach, using both A-book and B-book strategies. Here's...
Broker A booking is very different prospect from prop A booking, as you have the capital from customer deposits.

If someone has a $20,000 CFD account there's $20,000.

Obviously not the same for prop so an A-book only model is clearly idiocy.
  • #49,708
  • Jul 3, 2025 6:45pm Jul 3, 2025 6:45pm
Quoting Noisy
{quote} The issue with this approach is that, because of the size of the accounts props are offering and the corresponding requirement to put down a significant amount of margin, it is quite capital demanding. From AI „No, not every CFD broker is a B-book broker. While many CFD brokers utilize the B-book model, where they essentially act as the counterparty to client trades, there are also A-book brokers who route client orders to external liquidity providers. Some brokers even employ a hybrid approach, using both A-book and B-book strategies. Here's...
yes but careful with AI, AI only learns what is in the internet and most stuff in internet not true, pepperstone cleary runs B book too they dont run only A Book, if they run only A Book they must receive order flow payment to route trades to a market maker and nothing wrong with that, but brokers should be transparent about that
  • #49,709
  • Jul 3, 2025 6:46pm Jul 3, 2025 6:46pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} this owner was very often not honest with a lot in history already (from own coaching , own trading, his marketing.....) , so there is also a big chance A-booking was just talk around and so not fully true and maybe just mentioned to fake a reason. of course a game like prop cant be played in a-book, prop in general attracts the bad traders and beginners. .. you will not find enough good traders inside, and even this good traders are often longterm not really good.
most probably he spent all prop money and did not have money to payout traders and closed shop
  • #49,710
  • Jul 3, 2025 9:04pm Jul 3, 2025 9:04pm
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}Broker A booking is very different prospect from prop A booking, as you have the capital from customer deposits. If someone has a $20,000 CFD account there's $20,000. Obviously not the same for prop so an A-book only model is clearly idiocy.
Not sure whats the difference. For example if brokers like BlueBerryMarkets already B-Booking, It is more profitable for them.
For example if 100 traders buy 100K account with fees of 500$ each statitically 2 phase challenge pass rate is about 5% which gives them fees of around 50K and if 5% passes almost 1 to 2% reaches payout.
Also you are forgetting if I deposit my money they dont have option of denying profits for any reason like YOLO, gambling ect. where as funded account I have to be perfect no YOLO otherwise payout will rejected or they put shit rule can't risk more than 1% per trade etc...
  • #49,711
  • Edited 10:59pm Jul 3, 2025 10:32pm | Edited 10:59pm
And finally the mofo time......

it took me 6months plus to be eligibile for the payout from futureselite.......

Fumbled twice before while too close to get that bag in that time .......

This time finally crossed the finished line.....

Now i have atleast peace that this firm is a profitable now..........

I have total spent 55 challenges within last 6 months with average of 55$ a piece = 3025$.......

Now going to request 1500x5 (80% split) = 6000$

From this payout i am going to purchase tradeify which is deep loser for me thanks to STF purchases total money spent there is around 13k without a payout. I'll be focusing 100% for next coouple of months to get profitable there.
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  • #49,712
  • Jul 4, 2025 1:16am Jul 4, 2025 1:16am
Quoting montygoldy
And finally the mofo time...... it took me 6months plus to be eligibile for the payout from futureselite....... Fumbled twice before while too close to get that bag in that time ....... This time finally crossed the finished line..... Now i have atleast peace that this firm is a profitable now.......... I have total spent 55 challenges within last 6 months with average of 55$ a piece = 3025$....... Now going to request 1500x5 (80% split) = 6000$...

Thanks for this:
MOFO is an acronym that stands for “Manifestor Of Fantastic Opportunities.” It's the opposite of FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out). Contrary to how our society may define the word MOFO, I've reclaimed this word in a way to embody strength, empowerment, and connection.
  • #49,713
  • Jul 4, 2025 1:18am Jul 4, 2025 1:18am
Quoting OutThere
{quote} Thanks for this: MOFO is an acronym that stands for “Manifestor Of Fantastic Opportunities.” It's the opposite of FOMO (Fear Of Missing Out). Contrary to how our society may define the word MOFO, I've reclaimed this word in a way to embody strength, empowerment, and connection.
Creative..........
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  • #49,714
  • Jul 4, 2025 2:58am Jul 4, 2025 2:58am
Quoting montygoldy
And finally the mofo time...... it took me 6months plus to be eligibile for the payout from futureselite....... Fumbled twice before while too close to get that bag in that time ....... This time finally crossed the finished line..... Now i have atleast peace that this firm is a profitable now.......... I have total spent 55 challenges within last 6 months with average of 55$ a piece = 3025$....... Now going to request 1500x5 (80% split) = 6000$...
good to know your achievement.

Just follow up their payouts. And let us know. I got 2 x 1200.

They ditched me 5 x 1200
Intraday only.
  • #49,715
  • Jul 4, 2025 2:58am Jul 4, 2025 2:58am
my 20 pip strategy done for today.

On 1 k live capital
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  • #49,716
  • Jul 4, 2025 3:39am Jul 4, 2025 3:39am
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}Broker A booking is very different prospect from prop A booking, as you have the capital from customer deposits. If someone has a $20,000 CFD account there's $20,000. Obviously not the same for prop so an A-book only model is clearly idiocy.
Yes, that's what I meant. For a regulated broker where the trading capital was deposited by the traders themselves in advance, an A-Book model seems to be a completely different thing than when a prop company tries this.

"Funded Unicorn." I didn't even know them before, even though they're from my country. It doesn't seem to have been a long story. They only started in April and went bankrupt three months later. But that seems to be the case for many of these companies.

I'm continuing to try FTMO because, as a European, I shouldn't have any problems there, and they've been established for a long time. Also, didn't they acquire Oanda? If they had the necessary cash to do so (as far as I've read, it was mostly financed with cash), one can probably assume for the time being that they won't go under so quickly or stop paying out profits.
  • #49,717
  • Jul 4, 2025 3:51am Jul 4, 2025 3:51am
WOW mofo's

According to the company’s 2023 annual report, recently reviewed by Finance Magnates, it ended the year with a pre-tax profit of CZK 2.37 billion (about USD 98 million), over 31 per cent higher than the previous year’s CZK 1.8 billion (about USD 74.5 million). After taxes, the company's net profit came down to CZK 1.92 billion (over USD 79.3 million). https://www.financemagnates.com/fore...llion-in-hand/

With all that money, you'd think they'd eek out a discount coupon or two.

Can you imagine having the accounts of the best traders in the world in your back pocket and plugging them straight into the brokerage that you own.
I think they will soon accumulate all the money in the world.
The only positive thing about this is that Elon didn't think of this.
  • #49,718
  • Jul 4, 2025 4:01am Jul 4, 2025 4:01am
Quoting navk
my 20 pip strategy done for today. On 1 k live capital {image}
If TP is 20 pips, your SL must be tight? Does this strategy work on gold?
  • #49,719
  • Jul 4, 2025 4:46am Jul 4, 2025 4:46am
Quoting lllccc
{quote} If TP is 20 pips, your SL must be tight? Does this strategy work on gold?
i do not have set stoploss because i feel trading is for profit.

The price unlikely go against me.

No, it does not work on gold
Intraday only.
  • #49,720
  • Jul 4, 2025 4:55am Jul 4, 2025 4:55am
Quoting navk
{quote} i do not have set stoploss because i feel trading is for profit. The price unlikely go against me. No, it does not work on gold
Bravo
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