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  • #49,541
  • Jun 19, 2025 5:36pm Jun 19, 2025 5:36pm
Quoting montygoldy
My two cents for navk…… its not necessary what works for one trader will work for everyone….. secondly doesnot matter how you are squeeze dollars from markets gambling, martingale, disciplined, good or bad trading…. In the money in the bank mattters…… navk keep killing it
ok , for some parts yes...... but no. there are borders of what you can do and believe in trading, or you hurt yourself a lot.
yes you can gamble... and when you know you do it and build like this you know the results and how many times you need restart for a win... you know your stats.
but when you dont know you are gambling and think its a systematic approach with a positive expectancy value, than on the end you land in big depression. i dont know if this is worth it.

nothing against gambling... when you know you do it... go for it ... still always a chance to win when you know what you do.

i mean, you dont need to know how much money you lose when your stop is hit and that this is your whole account?
  • #49,542
  • Jun 19, 2025 5:39pm Jun 19, 2025 5:39pm
Quoting navk
{quote} we both in different areana as i told you. No more explanations, sorry.
yes, gambling and trading are 2 different arenas. impossible to compare. looks from outside same ... but so different.
  • #49,543
  • Jun 19, 2025 5:40pm Jun 19, 2025 5:40pm
A 500 dollar account. 0.1 lot size trading. ( If the trade/s goes against by 500 pips, you loose your account )
A 5000 dollar account, 1 stadard lot trading
A 10000 dollar account 2 standard lots trading

All in GU.

Some one says, it is gambling.

Sorry.
Intraday only.
  • #49,544
  • Jun 19, 2025 5:42pm Jun 19, 2025 5:42pm
Quoting navk
A 500 dollar account. 0.1 lot size trading. A 5000 dollar account, 1 stadard lot trading A 10000 dollar account 2 standard lots trading All in GU. Some one says, it is gambling. Sorry.
you forgot to add your rest: 500 SL, and one loss trade kill full account. this makes it gambling.... the points you hide.... not the other points.

but i am out of this gaming talk i hope i could help a little, but cant invest more time in this now.
  • #49,545
  • Jun 19, 2025 5:47pm Jun 19, 2025 5:47pm
Quoting Trader191
{quote} you forgot to add your rest: 500 SL, and one loss trade kill full account. this makes it gambling.... the points you hide.... not the other points. but i am out of this gaming talk i hope i could help a little, but cant invest more time in this now.
I said already, experience matters in trading GU.

In Gold, in futures account, with 2k MLL, I trade even more than 5 micros.

Skill set is needed especially in futures account, With FX account, by trading 1 standard lot in GU, I can sleep.

OK. Done. no more. Thanks for your inputs.
Intraday only.
  • #49,546
  • Jun 19, 2025 5:51pm Jun 19, 2025 5:51pm
Quoting navk
A 500 dollar account. 0.1 lot size trading. ( If the trade/s goes against by 500 pips, you loose your account ) A 5000 dollar account, 1 stadard lot trading A 10000 dollar account 2 standard lots trading All in GU. Some one says, it is gambling. Sorry.
Maybe bring this debate back to this thread -
Demo contest only - 20 pips TP and 20 pips stop - Any TF
  • #49,547
  • Jun 19, 2025 5:56pm Jun 19, 2025 5:56pm
Quoting failinforex
{quote} Maybe bring this debate back to this thread - Demo contest only - 20 pips TP and 20 pips stop - Any TF
It has been 5 yrs now. lol
Intraday only.
  • #49,548
  • Edited 6:30pm Jun 19, 2025 5:59pm | Edited 6:30pm
Quoting navk
{quote} It has been 5 yrs now. lol
Let us continue the contest there not here
and now Blue Guardian offers a buy one get one free -
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$76.30 for an instant 5k account. You risk less than $80 to demonstrate your non-martingale strategy.
  • #49,549
  • Jun 19, 2025 6:42pm Jun 19, 2025 6:42pm
Quoting failinforex
{quote} Let us continue the contest there not here and now Blue Guardian offers a buy one get one free - {image} $76.30 for an instant 5k account. You risk less than $80 to demonstrate your non-martingale strategy.
I am doing MFFU, Not focussing on other firms.

I bought MFFU starter plus at discounted price

Tradeify and Topstep in my list.

MFFU, Funded going well. When i do another 3 days, i can withdraw 1200 max
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Intraday only.
  • #49,550
  • Edited 7:54pm Jun 19, 2025 7:33pm | Edited 7:54pm
Just to add to gambling theory……


i have been doing that for at least 3+ years with micro funded accounts and prop firm accounts……


What i have learned so far is with 7+ years in market…to become from loser to profitable trader…

1. You need to be good Loser what i mean by accept losses at right time.
2. Dont stare at charts all the time EMOTIONS will kick in… what i usually do is i put a trade from desktop and check the charts like once in hourly…( i have restricted myself to asian session only)

Rest all depends on personality…..greed is good and revenge trading is ok if you know what you doing
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #49,551
  • Edited 8:39pm Jun 19, 2025 7:54pm | Edited 8:39pm
ALso off topic recently i started using CHATGPT for my trading. I mean i dont really ask direct setups from it. But i have a paid version and gave it persona of my COACH. Man this thing is getting legendary it has enough data as how i behave before and after the trade (Lat 2 weeks i am feeding all the info to it). Give me awesome suggestions what to do next.....

For eg based on my trading style it build this checklist - Keeps track of it as a coach how i am doing and i miss some something it reminds what to next .....

  1. HTF bias agrees with trade direction.
  2. Level = VWAP/S1 (GC) or R1 break-retest (NQ).
  3. 3-min engulf (GC) or 1-min close > break (NQ).
  4. Delta confirmation (cumulative delta flips with trigger).
  5. Bracket loaded at risk $300 / reward $200.
  6. Daily circuit-breaker: -0.8 % (-$400) or 3 completed trades—stop.

Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #49,552
  • Jun 19, 2025 10:37pm Jun 19, 2025 10:37pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Finally got connected. Now all I need to do is learn how to place orders
Made $150 each of the first 2 days on my OneUp Trader eval and then suddenly my account was inactive. I guess when I placed my TP on the second day, when it reached my target it triggered a new order and that order stayed open into the market close. Of course, I had no idea that an order had been triggered because I have no idea how to use Ninja Trader.

Anyways, no big deal, just bought another $10 dart and I'm going to try MultiCharts this time.

I call the Super DOM the Super DUMB. That makes me feel better about my inadequacies.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #49,553
  • Jun 19, 2025 11:20pm Jun 19, 2025 11:20pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Made $150 each of the first 2 days on my OneUp Trader eval and then suddenly my account was inactive. I guess when I placed my TP on the second day, when it reached my target it triggered a new order and that order stayed open into the market close. Of course, I had no idea that an order had been triggered because I have no idea how to use Ninja Trader. Anyways, no big deal, just bought another $10 dart and I'm going to try MultiCharts this time. I call the Super DOM the Super DUMB. That makes me feel better about my inadequacies.
Turns out you need to purchase a license key to use MultiCharts. Guess I have to stick with Ninja Trader. Ugh.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #49,554
  • Jun 19, 2025 11:40pm Jun 19, 2025 11:40pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Turns out you need to purchase a license key to use MultiCharts. Guess I have to stick with Ninja Trader. Ugh.
Try R Trader from Rithmic. Nothing fancy, if ordinary indicators will do, it works.

I've used it before on an eval from E2T, tuts are on utube.
  • #49,555
  • Jun 19, 2025 11:51pm Jun 19, 2025 11:51pm
Quoting Verde
{quote} Try R Trader from Rithmic. Nothing fancy, if ordinary indicators will do, it works. I've used it before on an eval from E2T, tuts are on utube.
I don't even need any indicators. I just need something that will allow me to place a trade with a SL/TP without getting a headache.

I'll check it out. Thx!!
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #49,556
  • Jun 20, 2025 1:58am Jun 20, 2025 1:58am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Just trade until your highest day is less than 20% of total profit. Tradeify has no denied payouts.
thank you guys! feeling better now let's get back to work
...I Bet You Ain't Never Seen A Donkey Fly!
  • #49,557
  • Jun 20, 2025 5:48am Jun 20, 2025 5:48am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Made $150 each of the first 2 days on my OneUp Trader eval and then suddenly my account was inactive. I guess when I placed my TP on the second day, when it reached my target it triggered a new order and that order stayed open into the market close. Of course, I had no idea that an order had been triggered because I have no idea how to use Ninja Trader. Anyways, no big deal, just bought another $10 dart and I'm going to try MultiCharts this time. I call the Super DOM the Super DUMB. That makes me feel better about my inadequacies.
Is quantower an option?
  • #49,558
  • Jun 20, 2025 7:04am Jun 20, 2025 7:04am
are phidias prop firm legit ? i mean i just got a $25K static eval for $8.8, so i am actually completely indifferent as to whether or not they legit, but i would like to know before i pay any activation fees hahah, anyone knows ?
  • #49,559
  • Jun 20, 2025 7:53am Jun 20, 2025 7:53am
Quoting tommy88bgo
are phidias prop firm legit ? i mean i just got a $25K static eval for $8.8, so i am actually completely indifferent as to whether or not they legit, but i would like to know before i pay any activation fees hahah, anyone knows ?
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I've never used them, but he has them at #8.....I agree with his top 3, so........
  • #49,560
  • Jun 20, 2025 7:59am Jun 20, 2025 7:59am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snFJ1mh-_9Y I've never used them, but he has them at #8.....I agree with his top 3, so........
ok cool, thanks!!
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