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  • #47,081
  • Mar 1, 2025 6:47am Mar 1, 2025 6:47am
Quoting Rmg
Apex pays big. Keep your stats,simple and consistent Why bother digging elsewhere.
Apex is not fair, these days.

I read in FF as well as by users in Discord.
Intraday only.
  • #47,082
  • Mar 1, 2025 6:49am Mar 1, 2025 6:49am
There are many great new features in PropFirmMatch to check current price offers.
Try the static filter feature, target percentage filter, price sorting, and platform types.
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  • #47,083
  • Mar 1, 2025 7:26am Mar 1, 2025 7:26am
Quoting RoelsMajor
There are many great new features in PropFirmMatch to check current price offers. Try the static filter feature, target percentage filter, price sorting, and platform types. {image}
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  • #47,084
  • Mar 1, 2025 7:34am Mar 1, 2025 7:34am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} For Traders 4.8 rank
For reviews submitted by users, there is a strict rule that requires uploading evidence; however, I think it's insufficient because it's only in the form of images and not PDFs, such as purchase invoices. The only convincing evidence is the screenshot image of the invoice from the invoice sent via email. Of course, reviews are all relative since the evidence is presented in image form. The only thing that can be accurately verified from online evidence is if it contains mutual information, and that is not easy.
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  • #47,085
  • Mar 1, 2025 8:22am Mar 1, 2025 8:22am
Quoting RoelsMajor
There are many great new features in PropFirmMatch to check current price offers. Try the static filter feature, target percentage filter, price sorting, and platform types. {image}
PFM is pay to win and pretending to be an impartial 'review site'.

Really it's just trying to maximize its revenue. The more the props pay them - called 'loyalty points' or some BS - the more highly they are ranked and the more easy it is to get negative reviews removed.

Any new shit prop can buy their way to the top and they play props off each other to pay more and more commission. And if PFM are getting more prop revenue who is getting less? Probably the traders through payout denials.

Look at the rankings now. Are "Quant Tekel" and "breakout" better than FTMO? No - they've paid more.

Yes, a lot of comparison sites will feature this to some extent, but this is purely built on that.
  • #47,086
  • Mar 1, 2025 8:43am Mar 1, 2025 8:43am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} Welcome back, Bro! 19k this year means around 9.5k per month. That's quite a lot. {quote} I'd rather blow a 25k account worth $100 once a month (for example, with a -6% Static Drawdown limit) than lose -6% on a 25k live account (a $1500 loss). So, the sustainability of the prop firms, especially those offering MT4, being brokers, and also offering somewhat rational challenges, is important for our jackpot in this random world of financial trading. Consistency up to 6% per month is possible, but above that is difficult,...
The problem / issue is not about trading, but credibility of firm in which we trade.

I am not sure, how many prop firms are really trust worthy currently.

Numerous compalints, i am reading in discord about non payouts.

As I keep saying, private mt4/mt5 account is the one, we should trade, whether it is futures of fx
Intraday only.
  • #47,087
  • Edited 11:02pm Mar 1, 2025 9:34am | Edited 11:02pm
Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}PFM is pay to win and pretending to be an impartial 'review site'. Really it's just trying to maximize its revenue. The more the props pay them - called 'loyalty points' or some BS - the more highly they are ranked and the more easy it is to get negative reviews removed. Any new shit prop can buy their way to the top and they play props off each other to pay more and more commission. And if PFM are getting more prop revenue who is getting less? Probably the traders through payout denials. Look at the rankings now. Are "Quant Tekel" and "breakout"...
Indeed, they were built with a promotional purpose, but I've never seen any site as comprehensive as this one, and if you read the forum reviews, there are quite a few negative ones as well. For me, it's not about submitting reviews or those insignificant loyalty points, but about filtering the important features or crieria that I've been researching here since as early July 2024, because as I mentioned before, if it's not an independent site, all reviews are just nonsense—except for personal experiences, which are still subjective.

And then, regarding the rankings, take another look: FTMO is among the top four on PFM, yet I personally gave it a "bad impression" rating because, in my opinion, its two-step challenge model isn't good. Even though it has fewer reviews, its ranking is high. So PFM is not that bad.

Note: If we want to verify the highest payouts through the blockchain, how can we verify them so that the results are truly valid? There's no way—even though all the amounts are displayed on the blockchain, KYC is protected by the Exchanges, and no matter how high the payment amounts are, no chance to verify exchanges data sender and receiver, it's still just a subjective report, unless they become a public company with financial reports available every quarter.
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  • #47,088
  • Mar 1, 2025 9:43am Mar 1, 2025 9:43am
I am only following these futures prop firms. I think these are OK. You can at least get a payout. It may be delayed but It will come through. Just have to follow
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  • #47,089
  • Mar 1, 2025 10:22am Mar 1, 2025 10:22am
Quoting montygoldy
Update on payouts - 1. Blueguardian - received rise invitation after 1 complete business day. Their rise steps a bit odd once you accept the invite you need to wait for the contract to be signed by Blueguardian guys before you can sign it. Which adds extra time. Accounts are paused cant open a trade yet. 2. Aqua futures- Their dashboard is nonsense but KYLE(he is the myflashfunding guy had the biggest payout from them 35k last year) is helping to get my payout manually. He said it'll happen during...
Hey Monty, Once again welcome back. Are you using ProjectX with Blue guardian. $50 with no activation fee is too good to pass up. You can pull $1500*3 as well. They allow w/d within buffer, I believe, as well, correct? Can you copy trade on Project X, I've never used them.
Anyone familiar with Volumetrica? Several firms offer it now, I believe it is a dx feed
  • #47,090
  • Mar 1, 2025 10:35am Mar 1, 2025 10:35am
someone use FundedNext?
they pay?
i am close to reach the first phase of challenge
  • #47,091
  • Mar 1, 2025 10:51am Mar 1, 2025 10:51am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Hey Monty, Once again welcome back. Are you using ProjectX with Blue guardian. $50 with no activation fee is too good to pass up. You can pull $1500*3 as well. They allow w/d within buffer, I believe, as well, correct? Can you copy trade on Project X, I've never used them. Anyone familiar with Volumetrica? Several firms offer it now, I believe it is a dx feed
ProjectX has a copy trade mechanism.

Volumetrica should be the web based interface MFFU is using. For me, it's usually good enough but the graph fails to display properly at peak hours. US based users don't seem to have this issue though when I asked around on discord. Over annoying thing is that the list of symbols I've added can just disappear. So, I can't switch graphs easily.
  • #47,092
  • Mar 1, 2025 11:12am Mar 1, 2025 11:12am
Quoting ordosgoitia
someone use FundedNext? they pay? i am close to reach the first phase of challenge
they randomly do bans every now and then under the guise of sharing IP with others. Sometimes valid sometimes not valid and without proof.
  • #47,093
  • Mar 1, 2025 11:26am Mar 1, 2025 11:26am
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Just want to state that about a year ago we were all talking about CFD prop regulation with the likes of Takisd trying to paint the gloomiest of pictures. How it was illegal etc regulators everywhere.... None of that fear materialized. This forum has since moved on to the discussion of futures props. CFD props are still here and accepting USA clients. On prop firm match you can select forex and the under more options... Click united states

Some cfd firms have great deals if you are looking for that old forex, cfd experience
  • #47,094
  • Mar 1, 2025 11:45am Mar 1, 2025 11:45am
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Quoting PropDude1234
{quote}PFM is pay to win and pretending to be an impartial 'review site'. Really it's just trying to maximize its revenue. The more the props pay them - called 'loyalty points' or some BS - the more highly they are ranked and the more easy it is to get negative reviews removed. Any new shit prop can buy their way to the top and they play props off each other to pay more and more commission. And if PFM are getting more prop revenue who is getting less? Probably the traders through payout denials. Look at the rankings now. Are "Quant Tekel" and "breakout"...
The sites that offer great deals get more people to sign up and earn pfm more commission, if these firms are paying more than that to get favorable reviews and or bad reviews removed, then it would be best to do own due diligence and check out trust pilot. Any ratings based business has this possible angle of corruption. If they make a ton of commissions and people are not complaining it seems they give them their stamp of approval.
  • #47,095
  • Mar 1, 2025 11:50am Mar 1, 2025 11:50am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Hey Monty, Once again welcome back. Are you using ProjectX with Blue guardian. $50 with no activation fee is too good to pass up. You can pull $1500*3 as well. They allow w/d within buffer, I believe, as well, correct? Can you copy trade on Project X, I've never used them. Anyone familiar with Volumetrica? Several firms offer it now, I believe it is a dx feed
yes, copy trading is possible within projectx. settings.

after purchase, the account numbers will appear.

you choose master and follower
Intraday only.
  • #47,096
  • Mar 1, 2025 12:03pm Mar 1, 2025 12:03pm
In blue guardian, they say, consistent lot size to be traded atleast for 8 days until payout req
Intraday only.
  • #47,097
  • Mar 1, 2025 12:03pm Mar 1, 2025 12:03pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} they randomly do bans every now and then under the guise of sharing IP with others. Sometimes valid sometimes not valid and without proof.
based on the traffic stats from CableJ, they should be bigger than FTMO , what is your opinion on that ?
  • #47,098
  • Mar 1, 2025 12:05pm Mar 1, 2025 12:05pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Hey Monty, Once again welcome back. Are you using ProjectX with Blue guardian. $50 with no activation fee is too good to pass up. You can pull $1500*3 as well. They allow w/d within buffer, I believe, as well, correct? Can you copy trade on Project X, I've never used them. Anyone familiar with Volumetrica? Several firms offer it now, I believe it is a dx feed
yes they are the cheapest challenges out there as well as aqua futures both run by same friends. Their offering is same as mffu but the only difference is 40% consistency on evals and dll is a hard breach.
i like projectx better than tradovate faster to open multiple tabs in browser and you can copy traded as well. Charts in projectx is from tradingview. Also it shows dollar value for tp and sl and you can adjust it by dragging on the charts.
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  • #47,099
  • Mar 1, 2025 12:08pm Mar 1, 2025 12:08pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} yes they are the cheapest challenges out there as well as aqua futures both run by same friends. Their offering is same as mffu but the only difference is 40% consistency on evals and dll is a hard breach. i like projectx better than tradovate faster to open multiple tabs in browser and you can copy traded as well. Charts in projectx is from tradingview. Also it shows dollar value for tp and sl and you can adjust it by dragging on the charts.
thx bud.
  • #47,100
  • Mar 1, 2025 12:17pm Mar 1, 2025 12:17pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} yes they are the cheapest challenges out there as well as aqua futures both run by same friends. Their offering is same as mffu but the only difference is 40% consistency on evals and dll is a hard breach. i like projectx better than tradovate faster to open multiple tabs in browser and you can copy traded as well. Charts in projectx is from tradingview. Also it shows dollar value for tp and sl and you can adjust it by dragging on the charts.
Yes, they say no minimum or maximum days to pass, but obviously with 40% consitency, it's a 3 day minimum.
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