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  • #47,021
  • Feb 27, 2025 2:55am Feb 27, 2025 2:55am
Quoting MwlRCT
{quote} - What % remained before the account is Dead. - Is it "CFD" or "futures" ?
5% to go
CFD FTMO
  • #47,022
  • Feb 27, 2025 4:32am Feb 27, 2025 4:32am
Some inside information
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  • #47,023
  • Feb 27, 2025 4:50am Feb 27, 2025 4:50am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
Some inside information {image}{image}
There are a lot of non FX investments by FTMO. Its what happens when you don't spend the money on garbage flex's like lambos with your logo on it.
  • #47,024
  • Feb 27, 2025 6:34am Feb 27, 2025 6:34am
Something which i read in Discord.
A trader in Apex trader funding requested payout, and was denied by the firm.

The trader then filed a law suit and got the payout.

As traders, we all should not encourage such firms and blacklist them once for all.

Apex story, this is not first time, but many times, i heard/read.

Beware guys.
Intraday only.
  • #47,025
  • Feb 27, 2025 7:14am Feb 27, 2025 7:14am
Quoting navk
Something which i read in Discord. A trader in Apex trader funding requested payout, and was denied by the firm. The trader then filed a law suit and got the payout. As traders, we all should not encourage such firms and blacklist them once for all. Apex story, this is not first time, but many times, i heard/read. Beware guys.
Apex is one significant slip in front end revenue away from complete disaster.
  • #47,026
  • Feb 27, 2025 7:20am Feb 27, 2025 7:20am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} Apex is one significant slip in front end revenue away from complete disaster.
Trading is hard job, and when payouts are denied, it hurts a lot.

And at some time, the firms like this will get closed.
Intraday only.
  • #47,027
  • Feb 27, 2025 7:46am Feb 27, 2025 7:46am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} There are a lot of non FX investments by FTMO.
such as ?
  • #47,028
  • Feb 27, 2025 8:29am Feb 27, 2025 8:29am
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} such as ?
I believe 2 small hotels. I am not sure if its 2 so thats why I say "i believe".
  • #47,029
  • Feb 27, 2025 8:51am Feb 27, 2025 8:51am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} There are a lot of non FX investments by FTMO. Its what happens when you don't spend the money on garbage flex's like lambos with your logo on it.
Very true and the last point is key, they never fomoed into offering heavy discounts or changing the rules. They've had the 10% target since the begining and they very rarely give out any disocunts.
  • #47,030
  • Feb 27, 2025 11:28am Feb 27, 2025 11:28am
Ok guys another issue with FE.

I put in a request for another withdrawal and after 48 hours of waiting I got this email accusing me of DCA trading as my main strategy which is completely false.

I'm very surprised as I don't use this strategy in my main trading plus I trade all my accounts the exact same way and my other accounts didn't get flagged, but somehow this one did? It's very odd and suspicious.

I've emailed them back and hopefully they will sort this out or its big red flag for me and everyone to stay away from them.
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  • #47,031
  • Feb 27, 2025 11:51am Feb 27, 2025 11:51am
Quoting mrdfx
Ok guys another issue with FE. I put in a request for another withdrawal and after 48 hours of waiting I got this email accusing me of DCA trading as my main strategy which is completely false. I'm very surprised as I don't use this strategy in my main trading plus I trade all my accounts the exact same way and my other accounts didn't get flagged, but somehow this one did? It's very odd and suspicious. I've emailed them back and hopefully they will sort this out or its big red flag for me and everyone to stay away from them. {image}
I use DCA a lot. I adjust size anticipating DCA. In the end, I wind up with the same size position at a better price. All of these rules are only designed for one reason....to fail accunts and/or deny payouts.
The rules are so ridiculous as nothing else is taken into account. It's OK to trade 3 contracts, but if I DCA 3 times with 1 contract each, not OK. My way is actually more risk adverse.
  • #47,032
  • Feb 27, 2025 12:13pm Feb 27, 2025 12:13pm
Quoting mrdfx
hopefully they will sort this out or its big red flag for me and everyone to stay away from them.

What continues to surprise me about all these situations is that so many people here seem, genuinely, just not to understand at all that the underlying problem is that they don’t want to pay out because it’s their money you’re winning, whereas if you dealt instead with a funded CME account, through a futures prop firm, they would be profiting with you, happy to pay your share while they take their share from your profits, and obviously wanting you to continue to do well.

Is it really that difficult to understand?
  • #47,033
  • Feb 27, 2025 12:18pm Feb 27, 2025 12:18pm
Quoting Quickly
{quote} What continues to surprise me about all these situations is that so many people here seem, genuinely, just not to understand at all that the underlying problem is that they don’t want to pay out because it’s their money you’re winning, whereas if you dealt instead with a funded CME account, through a futures prop firm, they would be profiting with you, happy to pay your share while they take their share from your profits, and obviously wanting you to continue to do well. Is it really that difficult to understand?
He is referring to a futures prop firm, Futures Elite, and therin solidifies the fact, prior to moving to live, they are EXACTLY the same as the CFD props..... a casino.
  • #47,034
  • Feb 27, 2025 12:28pm Feb 27, 2025 12:28pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} He is referring to a futures prop firm, Futures Elite

But not to a funded CME account. Hence his point.


Quoting Quickly
Is it really that difficult to understand?

Some, a few, to be fair, are (albeit gradually) learning.

For others, it’s still difficult because of the group of people posting here who are so strongly anti-regulation and therefore averse to anything “futures”, just because they hate the idea of combining high leverage and safe regulation (or “government interference” as they see it, lol!).

There are people posting here 30, 40, 50 times as much as you do, who would literally rather say Goodbye to an account than say Hello to a regulator. (They probably voted for President Musk, too.)

And against that constantly prejudiced and ignorant background, it’s difficult for some people to appreciate that they’ve been misinformed on this subject so persistently and for so long.
  • #47,035
  • Feb 27, 2025 12:33pm Feb 27, 2025 12:33pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} I use DCA a lot. I adjust size anticipating DCA. In the end, I wind up with the same size position at a better price. All of these rules are only designed for one reason....to fail accunts and/or deny payouts. The rules are so ridiculous as nothing else is taken into account. It's OK to trade 3 contracts, but if I DCA 3 times with 1 contract each, not OK. My way is actually more risk adverse.
Yes thats the only reason for DCA rules to fail accounts
  • #47,036
  • Feb 27, 2025 1:40pm Feb 27, 2025 1:40pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} But not to a funded CME account. Hence his point. {quote} Some, a few, to be fair, are (albeit gradually) learning. For others, it’s still difficult because of the group of people posting here who are so strongly anti-regulation and therefore averse to anything “futures”, just because they hate the idea of combining high leverage and safe regulation (or “government interference” as they see it, lol!). There are people posting here 30, 40, 50 times as much as you do, who would literally rather say Goodbye to an account than say Hello to a...
and you're a libtard to boot? should have figured.
TDS and now MDS, all while not even living in the US........pathetic
  • #47,037
  • Feb 27, 2025 2:20pm Feb 27, 2025 2:20pm
Quoting mrdfx
Ok guys another issue with FE. I put in a request for another withdrawal and after 48 hours of waiting I got this email accusing me of DCA trading as my main strategy which is completely false. I'm very surprised as I don't use this strategy in my main trading plus I trade all my accounts the exact same way and my other accounts didn't get flagged, but somehow this one did? It's very odd and suspicious. I've emailed them back and hopefully they will sort this out or its big red flag for me and everyone to stay away from them. {image}
Did you receive the earlier withdrawal asking you to post payout certficate in discord ? The 3 x 1200 $ ?
Intraday only.
  • #47,038
  • Feb 27, 2025 2:23pm Feb 27, 2025 2:23pm
And there is problem with every firm, so, continuity of prop firm model is big question.

Let us move to mt4/mt5 broker account soon.
Intraday only.
  • #47,039
  • Feb 27, 2025 3:04pm Feb 27, 2025 3:04pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Did you receive the earlier withdrawal asking you to post payout certficate in discord ? The 3 x 1200 $ ?
Yes I got it.

The odd thing is that they approved the payout, but not this new one, and when I use the same strategy on all my accounts.

If I was really doing DCA as my "main strategy" then all my accounts should have been flagged.

Anyway I opened a ticket on discord and their support said the CEO will review my case, lets see what he does. If he upholds this accusation then FE is a no go for me.
Truth is like poetry. And most people f*cking hate poetry.
  • #47,040
  • Feb 27, 2025 3:58pm Feb 27, 2025 3:58pm
Quoting mrdfx
{quote} Yes I got it. The odd thing is that they approved the payout, but not this new one, and when I use the same strategy on all my accounts. If I was really doing DCA as my "main strategy" then all my accounts should have been flagged. Anyway I opened a ticket on discord and their support said the CEO will review my case, lets see what he does. If he upholds this accusation then FE is a no go for me.
CEO seems to be nice person.
Hope everything goes fine for you
Intraday only.
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