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  • #46,521
  • Jan 28, 2025 12:57pm Jan 28, 2025 12:57pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} TBH, I would suggest MES and MYM
At realistic, honest futures prop firms, almost all the people who pass evaluations are trading MES (and those firms say so openly, because unlike the CFD ones, they actually want their customers to pass the evaluation and get funded).
  • #46,522
  • Jan 28, 2025 1:00pm Jan 28, 2025 1:00pm
Here are APEX Commission templates for those who care.
APEX Rithmic Commissions
APEX Tradovate Commissions

Drop these two files in your /Documents/NinjaTrader 8/templates/Commission folder

After you have these in place, go to the "Accounts" tab on the control panel and right click on each account and set the commission schedule to one of the two files above.
  • #46,523
  • Jan 28, 2025 1:43pm Jan 28, 2025 1:43pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} At realistic, honest futures prop firms, almost all the people who pass evaluations are trading MES (and those firms say so openly, because unlike the CFD ones, they actually want their customers to pass the evaluation and get funded).
You make me laugh with that one ahahah, you really think futures prop firms really fund traders? i mean those that reach only the real live account status are a tiny percentage, futures prop firms like cfds props dont want to fund traders with real capital because is risky, the revenue from fees is better business, the futures firms not many months ago didnt fund with real capital either, they are only funding because of suppose regulations
In short term, futures prop firms are the same as cfds props winning from traders fees
  • #46,524
  • Jan 28, 2025 1:53pm Jan 28, 2025 1:53pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} wikifx is blackmail site pls don’t promote
I never promote any site, just browsing some information there that seems pretty good. Not sure if those sites are blackmail sites.

Quoting genuine007
{quote} I will go to some better futures prop firm later. Don't worry! I don't think I will pass this 625$ x 3times ie. 2,000 $ profit target in 30 calendar days! I will not reset, I will not pay any fee. I am just testing things. Yeah total useless site Elite Trader Funding is. No Dashboard nothing. Seems just sales website. Max Lot Size is 20 micros & 2 Minis. I am just using 1 or 2 micros & it seems like I have put 0.10 & 0.20 in gold or even more. Forget about 0.01 or 0.02 like we take in gold. Calculation is totally different. Closed & Open...
Maybe the data entered is incomplete, such as account size and so on. If it's too complicated, why not try forex again? Futures accounts are expensive because they often include additional activation fees, and the platforms are usually not as good as MT4. I don’t trade futures because of certain principles I cannot compromise. With spot forex, it's fine. So just trade that instead.
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  • #46,525
  • Jan 28, 2025 3:03pm Jan 28, 2025 3:03pm
Fxify now moving those with existing static funded accounts to trailing DD accounts. A comparatively awful offering for the trader. They may as well remove their 2 step offering.
  • #46,526
  • Jan 28, 2025 9:52pm Jan 28, 2025 9:52pm
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} I never promote any site, just browsing some information there that seems pretty good. Not sure if those sites are blackmail sites. {quote} Maybe the data entered is incomplete, such as account size and so on. If it's too complicated, why not try forex again? Futures accounts are expensive because they often include additional activation fees, and the platforms are usually not as good as MT4. I don’t trade futures because of certain principles I cannot compromise. With spot forex, it's fine. So just trade that instead.
YEAH MAN! cheers to meta trader & forex. Simplicity.
  • #46,527
  • Jan 28, 2025 10:10pm Jan 28, 2025 10:10pm
Quoting rizla101
Fxify now moving those with existing static funded accounts to trailing DD accounts. A comparatively awful offering for the trader. They may as well remove their 2 step offering.
Trailing Drawdown is always a BAD THING.
Trading Drawdown EOD or CLOSED is worse
Trading Drawdown HWM EQUITY REACHED is worst
BETTER TO TRADE RETAIL BROKERS, FULL FREEDOM

If there are like 20 Forex Props,
So there are like 40 Forex Retail Brokers, AMPLE TO LIVE LIFE JUST DOING PERSONAL RETAIL FOREX TRADING
  • #46,528
  • Jan 29, 2025 3:52pm Jan 29, 2025 3:52pm
Quoting Fisher755
5 days after requested withdrawal from 5ers 100k High Stakes account I received invitation for a videocall from their risk management team , funny thing is I do not have a camera on my PC as it is miniPC so I wonder how that will go if I even sceduled it correctly...it should last 20 minutes. Well, I expected a payout not this (since payout should be processed within 24-48h)....if this goes bad I will never touch 5ers again. It was not even 2% payout, a bit less then that. So it is not that I am a big risk danger for them or something, but It is...
5ers payed me 1 day after google meet, but it was a one week wait for no big payout. FTMO no hicups and no problem with payout.
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  • #46,529
  • Jan 29, 2025 4:15pm Jan 29, 2025 4:15pm
Quoting Fisher755
{quote} 5ers payed me 1 day after google meet, but it was a one week wait for no big payout. FTMO no hicups and no problem with payout.
If you don't mind plz share google meet experience? Did they ask journal or strategy?
  • #46,530
  • Jan 29, 2025 4:24pm Jan 29, 2025 4:24pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} If you don't mind plz share google meet experience? Did they ask journal or strategy?
It was terrible from a technical perspective as I had to have it on my phone and my PC at the same time and the sound was echoing terribly LOL. Like from a nightmare. But somethow I managed to share the screen window and shortly explain some trades and this was enough...plus he was asking some basic background and trading history. Then he thanked me and said I will receive my payout in 72h after already 6 days hold. Since I already made bigger gain for next payout that ment for me that I will have to wait for the next one even longer (14 days cycle). But ok, if that will help them and next payout is not such a pain then I will try to forget about this.
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  • #46,531
  • Jan 30, 2025 4:04am Jan 30, 2025 4:04am
Guys if you remember exactly a year ago. There had been issues to prop firms with metatrader platform because of regulation issues. I still there no proper regulation for that. So it's good have prop firms that has different platforms. RebelsFunding also has their own platform. Experience the difference trading without metatrader platform. They have been in the industry almost 2 years without any issue.
  • #46,532
  • Jan 30, 2025 4:23am Jan 30, 2025 4:23am
Quoting damsak
Guys if you remember exactly a year ago. There had been issues to prop firms with metatrader platform because of regulation issues. I still there no proper regulation for that. So it's good have prop firms that has different platforms. RebelsFunding also has their own platform. Experience the difference trading without metatrader platform. They have been in the industry almost 2 years without any issue.
5 second search shows that the biggest complaint is how laggy the trading platform is.
  • #46,533
  • Jan 30, 2025 7:09am Jan 30, 2025 7:09am
Quoting genuine007
{quote} Trailing Drawdown is always a BAD THING. Trading Drawdown EOD or CLOSED is worse Trading Drawdown HWM EQUITY REACHED is worst BETTER TO TRADE RETAIL BROKERS, FULL FREEDOM If there are like 20 Forex Props, So there are like 40 Forex Retail Brokers, AMPLE TO LIVE LIFE JUST DOING PERSONAL RETAIL FOREX TRADING
Therefore, look for prop firm challenges that are static, starting with the cheapest ones. Three affordable 25k challenges for around USD 100 are Blueberry, Instant Funding, and E8. Just one account is enough—if successful, you can earn around 2k, right? Then, you can level up to 50k or 100k. If you fail, it won’t cause permanent ruin. If you fail, try again another day—consider it a form of meditation. With 1k you can try 7 times. But you must start practicing; once you take the risk, whether you succeed or fail is not the audience's concern, and no one should mock you—it is already honorable.

If you trade Forex, how much capital do you think is enough? Do you have 25k free? Because anything below that makes your account less meaningful, and if you lose just 10% of 25k, that’s already 2.5k gone. Besides, for a country with a middle-income level, that amount of money is huge—it’s not ideal to use it in a random world like trading, even though not everything is random.
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  • #46,534
  • Jan 30, 2025 7:54am Jan 30, 2025 7:54am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} Therefore, look for prop firm challenges that are static, starting with the cheapest ones. Three affordable 25k challenges for around USD 100 are Blueberry, Instant Funding, and E8. Just one account is enough—if successful, you can earn around 2k, right? Then, you can level up to 50k or 100k. If you fail, it won’t cause permanent ruin. If you fail, try again another day—consider it a form of meditation. With 1k you can try 7 times. But you must start practicing; once you take the risk, whether you succeed...
I will buy 25k E8 Pro-1 Step next month & start trading it from March. I will update the stats here as well of that particular account.
  • #46,535
  • Jan 30, 2025 11:25pm Jan 30, 2025 11:25pm
How to train your brain with such huge lot size. I can only trade when I am on revenge mode that too only once when I was trading with funding talent and MyFF 50 lots max. Any one traded like this just came across random video.
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  • #46,536
  • Jan 31, 2025 1:27am Jan 31, 2025 1:27am
Quoting sampat
How to train your brain with such huge lot size. I can only trade when I am on revenge mode that too only once when I was trading with funding talent and MyFF 50 lots max. Any one traded like this just came across random video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-igXla1MBbM
I can't detect when a video or account is fake or not, but this guy makes this amount of money and is wasting his time doing YT videos and selling courses for pennies ?
  • #46,537
  • Jan 31, 2025 3:36am Jan 31, 2025 3:36am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I can't detect when a video or account is fake or not, but this guy makes this amount of money and is wasting his time doing YT videos and selling courses for pennies ?
the one with trades on it is a demo account. He just deposited into one live account to show he has money and then hid the demo deposit in the other. Its not the brokers doing its his attempt to lie to people.
  • #46,538
  • Jan 31, 2025 4:20am Jan 31, 2025 4:20am
Quoting Takisd
{quote} the one with trades on it is a demo account. He just deposited into one live account to show he has money and then hid the demo deposit in the other. Its not the brokers doing its his attempt to lie to people.
So, this part where it says Real it's fake ?

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I never used my ICM account with web version but I just logged in there to see how it shows up and seems the same format:
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  • #46,539
  • Jan 31, 2025 4:46am Jan 31, 2025 4:46am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} So, this part where it says Real it's fake ? {image} I never used my ICM account with web version but I just logged in there to see how it shows up and seems the same format: {image}
I am not too sure, but putting his camera where it is is intentional.

Just realized its web terminal, you can HTML edit it. The trade order is also strange, the dates seem out of order and sorted by close time. Why close time?
  • #46,540
  • Jan 31, 2025 6:32am Jan 31, 2025 6:32am
Quoting sampat
How to train your brain with such huge lot size. I can only trade when I am on revenge mode that too only once when I was trading with funding talent and MyFF 50 lots max. Any one traded like this just came across random video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-igXla1MBbM
Did he share the investor password for MT4 or FF T Explorer? I prefer following the 2025 World Cup Championship of Forex Trading—real money, real account, live.

Source:
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