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  • #45,661
  • Edited 8:32pm Dec 28, 2024 8:10pm | Edited 8:32pm
hey guys, are you guys serious ?

Ticktick and Tradeify will go out of business ?

They are bringing in new rules just like Apex.

A business is started by them for earning money.

If you guys feel they go out of business, it means they are loosing in the business.

Are they loosing, so bringing in more rules.?

The same theory applies to Apex too.

Aprex is loosing ?

MFFU is bringing in new rules effective 1 st jan.

MFFU llosing too ?

A common sence must prevail.
Intraday only.
  • #45,662
  • Dec 28, 2024 8:10pm Dec 28, 2024 8:10pm
Yea I am thinking about paying for a reset on my TakeProfit 150K PRO Funded account.
Seems like a lot of money at $1500. The major plus side is I can take 80%share of anything over the $4500 buffer zone instantly with no consistency rule or max amount.
So if it made $30K you can take your share of $25,500 same day if it went down that way.

I stopped using them before because of the Intraday Trailing Drawdown and slippage.
  • #45,663
  • Dec 28, 2024 8:11pm Dec 28, 2024 8:11pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} TickTick 1 of the oldest ? 2022 {image} TopStep 2012 Earn2Trade 2017 OneUpTrader 2017 TradeDay 2020
Their website and dashboard is also of dinosaur age….mofo cant even get a pre built service that handles that stuff:….its been long and same fake promises and i think they following the same ftt timeline… first payout big to gain attraction and then slowly milk the traders out:…….
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  • #45,664
  • Edited 10:48pm Dec 28, 2024 8:13pm | Edited 10:48pm
Quoting navk
hey guys, are you guys serious ? Ticktick and Tradeify will go out of business ? They are bringing in new rules just like Apex. A business is started by them for earning money. If you guys feel they go out of business, it means they are loosing in the business. Are they loosing, so bringing in more rules. The same theory applies to Apex too. Aprex is loosing ? MFFU is bringing in new rules effective 1 st jan. MFFU llosing too ? A common sence must prevail.
in case of ticktick i am seeing some cracks…. Sniffing the same patterns like ftt..,,

futures prop firm game has become similar to meme coins theory i.e right time to enter n to exit otherwise wrecked….
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  • #45,665
  • Edited 10:49pm Dec 28, 2024 8:13pm | Edited 10:49pm
Quoting josh1111
Yea I am thinking about paying for a reset on my TakeProfit 150K PRO Funded account. Seems like a lot of money at $1500. The major plus side is I can take 80%share of anything over the $4500 buffer zone instantly with no consistency rule or max amount. So if it made $30K you can take your share of $25,500 same day if it went down that way.
missing the big point INTRA TRAILING which is a no no for that bs reset price… better to yolo as many challenges for that price and i bet you’ll pass more account with eod:..


my advice for everyone… you just not only want markets to work in you favour to print money but also MATH SHOULD ALSO WORKS IN your FAVOUR GIVES YOU EDGE
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  • #45,666
  • Dec 28, 2024 8:28pm Dec 28, 2024 8:28pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} missing the big point INTRA TRAILING which is a no no for that bs reset price… better to yolo as many challenges for that price and i bet you’ll more account with eod
They have intraday trailing with daily loss limit which is worst of both world. Only thing good about this firm is daily payout.
  • #45,667
  • Dec 28, 2024 8:29pm Dec 28, 2024 8:29pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} They have intraday trailing with daily loss limit which is worst of both world. Only thing good about this firm is daily payout.
also the bigger bulljive is dll is a hard breach
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  • #45,668
  • Dec 28, 2024 8:31pm Dec 28, 2024 8:31pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} in case of ticktick i am seeing some cracks…. Sniffing the same patterns like ftt..,, futures prop firm game has become similar to meme coins theory i.e right to enter n to exit otherwise wrecked….
Ticktick is doing what Tradeify is doing.

Because these are the only two firms competing each other, they are the only ones offering Direct funding model in futures.

I do not think any other firm has direct funding.

And, both Ticktick and Tradeify new rules applicable mostly to direct funding models.

That is where they can make money.
Intraday only.
  • #45,669
  • Dec 28, 2024 8:37pm Dec 28, 2024 8:37pm
Quoting navk
{quote} Ticktick is doing what Tradeify is doing. Because these are the only two firms competing each other, they are the only ones offering Direct funding model in futures. I do not think any other firm has direct funding. And, both Ticktick and Tradeify new rules applicable mostly to direct funding models. That is where they can make money.
its not just rules alot of orher stuff is happening …. I was checking their discord alot of grievances….they are spending 0 dollars on tech…. Yes ticktick is oldest but people forgetting they were irrelevant for so long … just now in talks because of boom of direct funding because of ftt…

we cant compare it with tradeify because they are progressing with tech n everything following the same patterns of mffu
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  • #45,670
  • Dec 28, 2024 8:43pm Dec 28, 2024 8:43pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} what advice you need?? Already purchased the challenge…
No worries, I found the rules.
  • #45,671
  • Dec 28, 2024 8:49pm Dec 28, 2024 8:49pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Their website and dashboard is also of dinosaur age….mofo cant even get a pre built service that handles that stuff:….its been long and same fake promises and i think they following the same ftt timeline… first payout big to gain attraction and then slowly milk the traders out:…….
Yep not sure why dont they spend money on technology. Same thing is true for apex they advertise to spend millions on payouts but not sure why not on website with proper dashboard.
  • #45,672
  • Dec 28, 2024 8:50pm Dec 28, 2024 8:50pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} Yep not sure why dont they spend money on technology. Same thing is true for apex they advertise to spend millions on payouts but not sure why not on website with proper dashboard.
but atleast its decent not the best also they spending on backend of things thats what they say….i am just taking their word…
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  • #45,673
  • Dec 28, 2024 8:58pm Dec 28, 2024 8:58pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} but atleast its decent not the best also they spending on backend of things thats what they say….i am just taking their word…
Apex is pretty lenient in terms payouts....Even if you break rules they give chance to fix it....other prop firms either put cap on payouts, move live or in case of tick tick if you risk more like max lot size they put you under probation. I think they understood that and thats why we dont see any promo going on...I think apex is following Topstep in terms of removing all discounts.
  • #45,674
  • Dec 28, 2024 10:52pm Dec 28, 2024 10:52pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} Apex is pretty lenient in terms payouts....Even if you break rules they give chance to fix it....other prop firms either put cap on payouts, move live or in case of tick tick if you risk more like max lot size they put you under probation. I think they understood that and thats why we dont see any promo going on...I think apex is following Topstep in terms of removing all discounts.
probably but they need to do something about product offering either make it eod or reduce prices of intra accounts... as the current price is not justifiable if you compare with the competition where the average 50k trailing is close or below 20$........
If they keep on this path they wont last much as new money is drying up and only the previous accounts holder are carrying on.....Even the streamers moving away from apex is bad sign..... they were like apex bread n butter when it comes to promotion....
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  • #45,675
  • Dec 28, 2024 11:20pm Dec 28, 2024 11:20pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} probably but they need to do something about product offering either make it eod or reduce prices of intra accounts... as the current price is not justifiable if you compare with the competition where the average 50k trailing is close or below 20$........ If they keep on this path they wont last much as new money is drying up and only the previous accounts holder are carrying on.....Even the streamers moving away from apex is bad sign..... they were like apex bread n butter when it comes to promotion....
May be but since they are not running promo tells me that they dont need new money ....I think with Pile of cash they figured out way to choose low risk traders and copy them. I can't see any other reason for not running promo...They have become like FTMO for futures no promo my way or highway.
  • #45,676
  • Dec 28, 2024 11:40pm Dec 28, 2024 11:40pm
Quoting sampat
{quote} May be but since they are not running promo tells me that they dont need new money ....I think with Pile of cash they figured out way to choose low risk traders and copy them. I can't see any other reason for not running promo...They have become like FTMO for futures no promo my way or highway.
it not about promo its the point when they released 3.0 and increased the activation fees. Competition is catching up pretty fast as new n new firms are coming up with better pricing and services… i can gurantee they cant survive just by copying… look at topstep they have to somewhat match the industry standards to be relevant….
But in long run they be more like elite trader funding irrelevant heck even their pricing is better… industry is for eod and now slowly transitioning to straight funded account and they still believe people going to pay overall 200$+ to get a intra trailing drawdown… they must be smoking good…
we also need to factor in at one point they were at the top… when you at that spot its not easy to become average…

firms are progressing forward and they are going totally oposite for eg denying alot of payout, adding too many bs rules i mean literally too many, increasing pricing, support is still pathetic, removed discord etc..

also ftmo example is wrong their product offering is matching the industry standards i.e drawdown, targets, platforms etc only thing is they are a bit expensive
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  • #45,677
  • Dec 28, 2024 11:51pm Dec 28, 2024 11:51pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} it not about promo its the point when they released 3.0 and increased the activation fees. Competition is catching up pretty fast as new n new firms are coming up with better pricing and services… i can gurantee they cant survive just by copying… look at topstep they have to somewhat match the industry standards to be relevant…. But in long run they be more like elite trader funding irrelevant… industry is for eod and now slowly transitioning to straight funded account and they still believe people going to pay overall 200$+ to get a intra...
Agreed. My point is without promo price is like 200$ per account (including PA fees) which makes it expensive considering trailing drawdown. They are not running promo from last 1 month when everyone was expecting discount and still paid 30 million for the month considering they disallow withdrawal from threshold. They removed payout window that means more withdrawal requests will be coming.
So only one of the few things have happened either they figured out that cheap price gives more headaches in terms of so called SCAMMERS OR SCHEAMERS or traders continue to buy accounts irrespective of price. Or they are B-booking it otherwise not sure how they are still maintaining current payouts. If they are able to do same payouts in December there must be something they are doing that doesn't rely on new signups.
  • #45,678
  • Dec 29, 2024 12:29am Dec 29, 2024 12:29am
Quoting sampat
{quote} Agreed. My point is without promo price is like 200$ per account (including PA fees) which makes it expensive considering trailing drawdown. They are not running promo from last 1 month when everyone was expecting discount and still paid 30 million for the month considering they disallow withdrawal from threshold. They removed payout window that means more withdrawal requests will be coming. So only one of the few things have happened either they figured out that cheap price gives more headaches in terms of so called SCAMMERS OR SCHEAMERS...
yep my guess is reserve funds coz they were at the top literally printing millions .. but that cant sustain for long … right now able to pay but not for long …. Either they planning something behind the scenes… even with 80% promo they are not worth it…

schemers n everything is bs excuse now. Even if the case you improve the product not the other way around. Atleast follow the topstep footsteps they been in game the longest…
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  • #45,679
  • Dec 29, 2024 3:42am Dec 29, 2024 3:42am
I'm not sure if ticktick is in trouble, but tradeify's changes suggests that their generous STF might not be sustainable in the long run.

For forex, a 100k account requires you to make 16-18k before a 3k payout and it costs about the same the same as the 150k STF account that requires you to earn 7.5k to get a 3k payout. Granted there's a consistency rule, trailing drawdown, and a payout limit, but I think it's much easier to get to a 3k payout there versus on forex.

Think they'll have more rule changes slowly to resemble the tradeify model.
  • #45,680
  • Dec 29, 2024 5:20am Dec 29, 2024 5:20am
TopStep and MyFundedFutures is like the FTMO of the Futures world. I think they will survive.

I am going to start trading my own futures account from mid Jan. You dont need a lot of money to start trading in micro's specially with Ninjatrader and AMP Futures... the margin requirements are very low specially on the Micro ES. Put a $1000 and start compounding. As long as the Strategy is good ....money will be made.
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
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