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  • #45,621
  • Dec 27, 2024 4:10pm Dec 27, 2024 4:10pm
Quoting pipmaster77
So I think we've discussed the math on this previously..... a Tradeify STF account is $454 for 150K with 7500 DD, no eval, make 9K, pull out 3K and ability to pull out 3K 3 times monthly, so 9K PER ACCOUNT (max 5) a Topstep eval is $49 plus $149 activation, $198 and you'll need 3 for the same DD, totalling $594 and YOU MUST PASS AN EVAL. Even the 80-90% off like Apex and Bulenox will run $420 plus all-in for same DD of $7,500. STF, if sustainable, is a true game changer, even if you're moved to live immediately after pulling $15K first payout. No...
Just ban coz of 1 payout..... Now i am pesting them everyday on support and i think they are done not gonna take me back....
I think the reason maybe they saw the potential like mfffu... this mofo can milk us hard .. so throw some bs reason of payment gateway audit atleast we are not viable so no negative reviews....
I think the reason is i try to ge to first payment in minimal time i guess for ticktick from purchase to payout eligible was 7 days....
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  • #45,622
  • Edited 5:31pm Dec 27, 2024 4:26pm | Edited 5:31pm
Quoting josh1111
{quote} Yea this is the path I have been considering as I hate the YOLO shit. I spend so much time trying to be disciplined not to trade that way I feel like I undue all of that hard work going back to YOLO mindset. My hats off to those of you that can switch back and forth so easily. I am considering the STF with Futures Elite even though they are new. 5 STF 150K accounts will cost about $3300. There is no daily drawdown rule so 5X $7500+$37,500 total drawdown. Each account can withdrawal up to $3700 every 7 trading days. 20% consistency rule applies....
I am still advising dont go with them as there is no knowledge of big payout....why risking big money there.. Yeah earning potential is good but you need to think what if they dont pay you for some Bs reason... happened to me so many times....
I mean nearly 40-50% less price you can get tradeify or ticktick direct accounts which are paying...
But in the end your money and your choice.....
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  • #45,623
  • Dec 27, 2024 5:57pm Dec 27, 2024 5:57pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} Just ban coz of 1 payout..... Now i am pesting them everyday on support and i think they are done not gonna take me back.... I think the reason maybe they saw the potential like mfffu... this mofo can milk us hard .. so throw some bs reason of payment gateway audit atleast we are not viable so no negative reviews.... I think the reason is i try to ge to first payment in minimal time i guess for ticktick from purchase to payout eligible was 7 days....
Did you blow up the SIM accounts after payout and then couldn't purchase more?
or did they just ban you after payout?
I know you posted when it happened, but I cannot recall the scenario.
  • #45,624
  • Dec 27, 2024 6:47pm Dec 27, 2024 6:47pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} I am still advising dont go with them as there is no knowledge of big payout....why risking big money there.. Yeah earning potential is good but you need to think what if they dont pay you for some Bs reason... happened to me so many times.... I mean nearly 40-50% less price you can get tradeify or ticktick direct accounts which are paying... But in the end your money and your choice.....
Yea Tradeify is probably the better direction. My total daily drawdown gets reduced from $37,500 to $18,750(total Max DD $30K) compared to Futures Elite but like you said what really counts is that you actually get payouts.
Thanks for all of the input.
  • #45,625
  • Dec 27, 2024 8:07pm Dec 27, 2024 8:07pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Did you blow up the SIM accounts after payout and then couldn't purchase more? or did they just ban you after payout? I know you posted when it happened, but I cannot recall the scenario.
i blew them…. Made 7.8k profit in 7 days then pulled 3k then dll next day…
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  • #45,626
  • Edited Dec 28, 2024 12:52am Dec 27, 2024 8:10pm | Edited Dec 28, 2024 12:52am
Quoting josh1111
{quote} Yea Tradeify is probably the better direction. My total daily drawdown gets reduced from $37,500 to $18,750(total Max DD $30K) compared to Futures Elite but like you said what really counts is that you actually get payouts. Thanks for all of the input.
also i mentioned before what you can do is built a custom account probably with reduced target for example 50k account with 2.5k drawdown and 2k target is very much achievable will cost only 98 bucks….that way u can test the firm with payout…. If they do well then you can go with bigger accounts and go that big bag coz then i’ll do the same lol
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i am in hunt for direct funding as well saves me alot of efforts…… i looked into flexytrade as well then researched then found out like alot of traders denied payout on twitter with like 10k plus but small amount traders are happy as alot of them saying received money quick like 3k, 4k payouts…
same cases for bulenox small payouts are happy customers but big payouts guys have grievances
….



another plan that i am going to do as well is - buy 5x50k futures elite = 300$, 3x50k blueguardian = 150$ and 3x50k aquafutures = 180$ total 630$ cheapest challenges so if you fail yolo you can try again as it cost = 1straight to funded account…..

earning potential 1500x5 futureselite, 1500x3 blue and 1500x3 aqua total 16500$ (higher chances of achieving once passed. Aim for 2500-2600 pull the payout..)
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  • #45,627
  • Dec 27, 2024 8:51pm Dec 27, 2024 8:51pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} i blew them…. Made 7.8k profit in 7 days then pulled 3k then dll next day…
So you pulled 15K (3K*5). I am wondering what the scenario would be had you not blown them. They would have had to pay another 15K. They don't move you to live until the 6th payout, but, of course, they reserve the right to move you to live at any point they wish.
  • #45,628
  • Dec 27, 2024 9:21pm Dec 27, 2024 9:21pm
Can someone tell me what is the spread of ftmo with US30 and XAU?
thanks.
  • #45,629
  • Dec 27, 2024 9:50pm Dec 27, 2024 9:50pm
Quoting Tuatuanlq
Can someone tell me what is the spread of ftmo with US30 and XAU? thanks.
US30: Asian session about 330 and it slowly goes down to 160 to 190 in the Europe/US sessions.
XAUUSD: ~21 during Asian session and down to ~17 during US sessions.
  • #45,630
  • Dec 27, 2024 10:05pm Dec 27, 2024 10:05pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} So you pulled 15K (3K*5). I am wondering what the scenario would be had you not blown them. They would have had to pay another 15K. They don't move you to live until the 6th payout, but, of course, they reserve the right to move you to live at any point they wish.
i dont know but i am willing to go for 250kx5 accounts i.e 899x5 big money investment but they are outright saying no..... i am 100% sure people are blowing accounts and able to purchase (for eg kyle from good damn trading youtuber he blows accounts now n then on streams and able to purchase and he is claiming pulled 270k payouts from prop firm this year) but they saw or maybe know my potential thats why blocking....tick was my first straight to funded ever and now its tradeify turn.....

On the other hand i am sniffing changes on their plan soon as well alot of 15k payouts happening ...... coz this too sweet deal of 7.5k drawdown and make 7.5k in like 5 days possible to pull 3000$
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  • #45,631
  • Dec 27, 2024 10:49pm Dec 27, 2024 10:49pm
Another one gone...... FLEXYTRADE....
Atleast they are going out properly by paying out people.....
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  • #45,632
  • Dec 27, 2024 11:55pm Dec 27, 2024 11:55pm
APEX has HWM Trailing Drawdown & a List of around 15 rules
Whoever using APEX is already a G.O.A.T in Trading
Anyone here who has a pdf or some word file managing & updating current list of apex rules with new updates??
  • #45,633
  • Dec 28, 2024 12:19am Dec 28, 2024 12:19am
Quoting montygoldy
Another one gone...... FLEXYTRADE.... Atleast they are going out properly by paying out people..... {image}
No sympathy here for anyone that used Flexytrade. I would be very surprised if they're actually paying anyone out.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #45,634
  • Dec 28, 2024 12:44am Dec 28, 2024 12:44am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} No sympathy here for anyone that used Flexytrade. I would be very surprised if they're actually paying anyone out.
I mean some of them reporting on twitter who recently asked for a payout got it but balances in the account are gone.........Btw these mofo recently released instant funding and selling them in bunch like candies
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  • #45,635
  • Dec 28, 2024 12:48am Dec 28, 2024 12:48am
Quoting genuine007
APEX has HWM Trailing Drawdown & a List of around 15 rules Whoever using APEX is already a G.O.A.T in Trading Anyone here who has a pdf or some word file managing & updating current list of apex rules with new updates??
Just focus on these two rules you be good

1. Use same contract size always. Increase them with balance but keep them constant for a while. Think like for each payout cycle same contract size.
2. max drawdown per trade should be below 30% i.e 750$ (50k account).

Rest doesnot matter if you follow above two.
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  • #45,636
  • Dec 28, 2024 12:52am Dec 28, 2024 12:52am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} i dont know but i am willing to go for 250kx5 accounts i.e 899x5 big money investment but they are outright saying no..... i am 100% sure people are blowing accounts and able to purchase (for eg kyle from good damn trading youtuber he blows accounts now n then on streams and able to purchase and he is claiming pulled 270k payouts from prop firm this year) but they saw or maybe know my potential thats why blocking....tick was my first straight to funded ever and now its tradeify turn..... On the other hand i am sniffing changes on their plan...
Thinking if I should max out my STF accounts with them. Maybe with the next payout.
  • #45,637
  • Dec 28, 2024 1:35am Dec 28, 2024 1:35am
Quoting maltrader
{quote} Thinking if I should max out my STF accounts with them. Maybe with the next payout.
go for it... best for the bucks right now......
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  • #45,638
  • Dec 28, 2024 3:04am Dec 28, 2024 3:04am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} go for it... best for the bucks right now......
Even tradeify reduced the drawdown by 20% to 6k only for the 150k account with a 20% higher withdrawal threshold.
  • #45,639
  • Dec 28, 2024 3:24am Dec 28, 2024 3:24am
Quoting maltrader
{quote} Even tradeify reduced the drawdown by 20% to 6k only for the 150k account with a 20% higher withdrawal threshold.
yep i am holding before the change accounts… so kinda have 7 accounts with that big threshold
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  • #45,640
  • Dec 28, 2024 7:42am Dec 28, 2024 7:42am
Quoting mrdfx
Ok so after looking at all the options right now with the futures props, and who has the best deals currently, (no Apex or MFFU) it looks like Futureselite is the one to go for. It's a bit risky cos they're new to the futures game, but that could also be an advantage to get in early and milk them while I can. I considered Blue guardian, but FE edges them slightly in product offering. I would have gone for Topstep if there wasn't that extra fee. Unfortunately MFFU and Apex are not having any promos or I would consider them first. Does anyone know...
Hi mrdfx,

Not sure if they offer the best in as far as their purchase price, but they are an outstanding future prop firm from my ongoing experience. Although the purchase price is highly important, it's the after-purchase experience that really counts for me & so far, I am well satisfied with the after-purchase experience in every way. Having said that I'm not very happy with the Tradingview charts that comes with their software, but since I have a private futures account, I'm able to use MT5 for charting. So, all is still good using TopStepX. Our dear trading friend montygoldy seems to have several TopStepX accounts so maybe you can get his viewpoint from his experiences with TopStepX. Just my views & nothing more. Best of trades to you.
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