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  • #40,481
  • Aug 10, 2024 10:26am Aug 10, 2024 10:26am
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} Pip, I need one more data. Could u share your current maximum and minimum VAR? Thanks before. {image}
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  • #40,482
  • Aug 10, 2024 10:32am Aug 10, 2024 10:32am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} This is an odd one......DD has been exponentially increased more than return. My assumption is risk engine was higher during the DD period????
Its strange to be honest, I didn't trade since the first image was captured.

Anyone wants to create a thread on Darwin so that we can share our record weekly?
  • #40,483
  • Edited 2:42pm Aug 10, 2024 11:12am | Edited 2:42pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} This is absolute nonsense: it’s just completely wrong. {quote} This is a good article, but (as its authors explain) everything in it is very specific to trading individual stocks: it has nothing to do with forex or indices CFD's at all.
One idiot correcting another idiot.

Now this is something I can sink my teeth into
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #40,484
  • Aug 10, 2024 11:14am Aug 10, 2024 11:14am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, futures trading on MT5.......just like amp.
do you know if it is possible to copy with FXblue from MT4/5 eur/usd spot to Amp MT5 Eurofx futures ?
  • #40,485
  • Aug 10, 2024 11:28am Aug 10, 2024 11:28am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} {image}
Ok. Very stable below 6.5%. Also, D-Leverage should not exceed 9.75 if the trade duration is more than 60 minutes. They only started calculating the my Monthly VaR stats after 10 days (July 24th). The first trade was actually on July 15th. The manual states that their calculation period is the last 45 days. It doesn't quite match. Maybe needed after readjusment.

Thanks again.
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  • #40,486
  • Edited 11:56am Aug 10, 2024 11:44am | Edited 11:56am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} So looks like your risk engine will fall between 1.35-1.40.....perfect results, IMO. I prefer to trade smaller and have them increase my size than vice versa.
Thank’s I remembered you liked that way. This suits better for my style. End of the day, results is same, thank’s for ”risk manager”
  • #40,487
  • Aug 10, 2024 11:55am Aug 10, 2024 11:55am
Quoting sheva89
{quote} Its strange to be honest, I didn't trade since the first image was captured. Anyone wants to create a thread on Darwin so that we can share our record weekly?
//-----

probably a good idea...... created the thread and posted my limited screenshots due to my short involvement...... will post more as those metrics become available......

darwin thread on forex factory......

my journal on enivids site will likely include more finite points......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #40,488
  • Aug 10, 2024 2:47pm Aug 10, 2024 2:47pm
Quoting navk
My wife account status {image}
This is my wife account before risk engine.
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  • #40,489
  • Aug 10, 2024 2:48pm Aug 10, 2024 2:48pm
And this is my wife account after darwin
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  • #40,490
  • Aug 10, 2024 2:49pm Aug 10, 2024 2:49pm
Quoting maltrader
{quote} What lot size or percentage of the margin did you use for it to be considered gambling there? I thought they had a anything goes style for the evaluation phases?
my mistake..the reason was not gambling..but spamming the trading book.

They showed me 2x occurance whereas I opened 4x in a row 1 lot on XauUsd in same price at same second. I say its layering or whatever. Its easier for me to close one per one.

They didnt agree. So, thats that.

Definately im gonna use them more, as they offer 300k per strategy, and thats the final goal with them really.
  • #40,491
  • Aug 10, 2024 2:50pm Aug 10, 2024 2:50pm
Quoting navk
And this is my wife account after darwin {image}
As expected.

Darwin has to have a system in place to protect investors. You simply can go down 13K in a couple of weeks without the risk engine stepping in and mitigating risk.

Now she will have 2 options. Start a new account or have her leverage severely reduced for a couple of months
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #40,492
  • Aug 10, 2024 2:54pm Aug 10, 2024 2:54pm
The one noticeble reduction is Max drawdown is considerably reduced.

Minus 13.28 % to minus 2 % now.

Returns plus 8.85 % is reduced to minus 0.27 %


what she needs to now ?
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  • #40,493
  • Aug 10, 2024 2:55pm Aug 10, 2024 2:55pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} As expected. Darwin has to have a system in place to protect investors. You simply can go down 13K in a couple of weeks without the risk engine stepping in and mitigating risk. Now she will have 2 options. Start a new account or have her leverage severely reduced for a couple of months
ok. thanks
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  • #40,494
  • Aug 10, 2024 2:55pm Aug 10, 2024 2:55pm
Quoting navk
The one noticeble reduction is Max drawdown is considerably reduced. Minus 13.28 % to minus 2 % now. Returns plus 8.85 % is reduced to minus 0.27 % what she needs to now ?
When the Darwin Index is created on Monday she will be able to see exactly what her risk adjustment is at. I'd imagine 0.2 or less
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #40,495
  • Aug 10, 2024 3:43pm Aug 10, 2024 3:43pm
Quoting navk
The one noticeble reduction is Max drawdown is considerably reduced. Minus 13.28 % to minus 2 % now. Returns plus 8.85 % is reduced to minus 0.27 % what she needs to now ?
Reduce trade size by 80%....probably nothing wrong with the strategy......just trading way too large (as most traders do)
  • #40,496
  • Aug 10, 2024 4:01pm Aug 10, 2024 4:01pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Reduce trade size by 80%....probably nothing wrong with the strategy......just trading way too large (as most traders do)
it is learning curve with black box in place.

yes, the black box teaches traders forcibly to reduce lot size.

she will try this month in order to improve. This month she paid subscription
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  • #40,497
  • Aug 10, 2024 5:24pm Aug 10, 2024 5:24pm
Quoting sheva89
{quote} Its strange to be honest, I didn't trade since the first image was captured. Anyone wants to create a thread on Darwin so that we can share our record weekly?
yes please !!! i had one but i had to restart , i kept breaking the rules it was a bad presentation of how i actually trade
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  • #40,498
  • Aug 10, 2024 5:35pm Aug 10, 2024 5:35pm
My staus stands like this as of Friday close.

I have absolutely no idea what the risk engine going to do with this stats. Have 2 more days to trade.

Would appreciate if some one shows a darwin link where it states what the risk engine does.
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  • #40,499
  • Edited 8:53pm Aug 10, 2024 8:21pm | Edited 8:53pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} As expected. Darwin has to have a system in place to protect investors. You simply can go down 13K in a couple of weeks without the risk engine stepping in and mitigating risk. Now she will have 2 options. Start a new account or have her leverage severely reduced for a couple of months
Quoting navk
{quote} it is learning curve with black box in place. yes, the black box teaches traders forcibly to reduce lot size. she will try this month in order to improve. This month she paid subscription
Yes, all of that is true, but Darwinex Zero doesn't address a trader's ability to recover, and it doesn't have a reward score for runnup. To understand it like this: there's a concept of return (positive and negative), but there's no concept or score for run-up (positive); there’s only a deduction for drawdown (negative). I've been saying this from the beginning: Darwinex needs to establish very clear rules from the start, such as limiting risk to no more than 0.3% per day (for example), rather than cutting returns as a penalty for drawdown before the account signal is copied by Darwinex. But that's how they are right now. Darwinex needs to learn about something too. As i said before VaR or risk engine system works no better than conventional ones. You can still lose a lot of money even with VaR in place, because you can still open D-Leverage up to 9.75 maximum for trades over 60 minutes before it's cut, and VaR doesn't help much either when used in profitable areas.

As a historical lesson, LTCM (Long-Term Capital Management L.P.) still collapsed in the past, despite having VaR integrated into its system.

For Navk: She has high adaptability as trader and is able to recover after disorder or shock. She's amazing trader.
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  • #40,500
  • Aug 10, 2024 9:49pm Aug 10, 2024 9:49pm
Quoting RoelsMajor
{quote} {quote} Yes, all of that is true, but Darwinex Zero doesn't address a trader's ability to recover, and it doesn't have a reward score for runnup. To understand it like this: there's a concept of return (positive and negative), but there's no concept or score for run-up (positive); there’s only a deduction for drawdown (negative). I've been saying this from the beginning: Darwinex needs to establish very clear rules from the start, such as limiting risk to no more than 0.3% per day (for example), rather than cutting returns as a penalty for...
Look at my stats.

Max drawdown is just 3.19 %. And returns are reasonable.

For any prop firm, 3.19 % is very good.

I would be surprised if the so called risk engine ( black box ) slashes the numbers.

I am waiting till next Monday
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