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  • #35,521
  • Apr 27, 2024 6:34pm Apr 27, 2024 6:34pm
Quoting _BBKing_
Hi everyone came around here looking for suggestions. I'm thinking to subscribe for a Topstep combine. I wonder how does the connection with Tradingview and Tradovate actually works. For what I see, there is a monthly cost (9$) and the tradingview subscription costs of course. A part of that, I would like to know if anyone uses it, and if there is some lagging or some issues regarding on slippages, or anything eventually affecting the trade execution. Tradovate itself looks a good platform btw, but I have some indicators missing and also some portability...
i bought their combine last friday. They are good trading condition wise. I dont pay extra 9 to tradingview for data. Instead connect my topstep account to tradingview to get the feed. Thats good enough for me.
for payout what i understood is once youre funded for ex 150k account first pull in 4500$ to stop the trailing. Then I take out anythin above it so that u’ll have atleast 4500 drawdown. That same goes with all the firms first pull in the initial to stop trailing and then take out anything above it.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #35,522
  • Apr 27, 2024 7:33pm Apr 27, 2024 7:33pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} i bought their combine last friday. They are good trading condition wise. I dont pay extra 9 to tradingview for data. Instead connect my topstep account to tradingview to get the feed. Thats good enough for me. for payout what i understood is once youre funded for ex 150k account first pull in 4500$ to stop the trailing. Then I take out anythin above it so that u’ll have atleast 4500 drawdown. That same goes with all the firms first pull in the initial to stop trailing and then take out anything above it.
Yo, you are a fucking gambler ..I like you, but the end is near
  • #35,523
  • Edited Apr 28, 2024 1:04am Apr 27, 2024 9:54pm | Edited Apr 28, 2024 1:04am
Quoting driven18
{quote} Yo, you are a fucking gambler ..I like you, but the end is near
Gambler, day trader, Lucker, scalper etc or whatever name you can call me with I dont mind. Coz in the end i get the MONEY IN MY BANK and NETT PROFITABLE.
Thats what i preach to everyone is no startegy, no risk management is wrong if its working for you and keeps you PROFITABLE. In the end money in the bank matters not the process.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #35,524
  • Apr 27, 2024 10:47pm Apr 27, 2024 10:47pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} i bought their combine last friday. They are good trading condition wise. I dont pay extra 9 to tradingview for data. Instead connect my topstep account to tradingview to get the feed. Thats good enough for me. for payout what i understood is once youre funded for ex 150k account first pull in 4500$ to stop the trailing. Then I take out anythin above it so that u’ll have atleast 4500 drawdown. That same goes with all the firms first pull in the initial to stop trailing and then take out anything above it.
ok sounds logic indeed.
Not simple tho having a 4/5 k profits and still need to increase more to start withdrawing.
will be probably aiming to reach the 10k and withdraw them all.

Will give it the 50 or 100k a go.
At worst, the cost will not affect my bank. It’s a 350 to 400$ total cost
90% of traders use TA, indicators and prediction
  • #35,525
  • Edited 1:03am Apr 28, 2024 12:27am | Edited 1:03am
Quoting Takisd
I have a question for the folks who have played with Darwinex Zero. VaR - is it a "fair" tool to use to measure a users trading capabilities? In your experience has the scoring system been of benefit? I am trying to get an idea out of my head after a conversation today with an "ex" prop firm employee and so if anyone can shed some light would appreciate it .
I think it's a fair way to assess/compare trader's abilities over the long term. It also protects investors from some rogue trader (expo33) going coo coo for cocoa puffs. The example in the video explaining VaR really makes sense to me. It keeps the YOLO crowd from getting rewarded over a consistent trader with solid risk management. Otherwise, it would be like competing in a prop firm competition where you need to earn 400% in a month to win anything. Especially since you can reset you account for $70. It would encourage the YOLO strategy.

My risk adjustment factor was 1.25 for the first week as I was trading conservatively during the initial calibration phase. The risk engine was increasing my trade size by 25%. Now that I'm trading like a maniac my risk factor is 0.61. Decreasing my trade size by nearly 40% which is a good thing. It's nice to be able to see in real time how the risk engine is managing your trading behavior.

This explains why my meta4 account balance at one point was at 103,200 but my profit percentage on the Darwinex site was only showing 2.5%.

The only negative thing I can think of is if you swing trade with lets say a 3 lot position size on average then you open a scalp trade of 6 lots. I'm assuming the risk engine may decrease that scalp size to get you back into the desired VaR range but I'm not entirely sure.

Overall, I like it and see it as a good thing. I think it makes the model sustainable. But then again I'm just some random guy clicking buttons. Check with Karl, he's got all the answers.

I'm curious what idea was in your head
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #35,526
  • Apr 28, 2024 1:07am Apr 28, 2024 1:07am
Quoting _BBKing_
{quote} ok sounds logic indeed. Not simple tho having a 4/5 k profits and still need to increase more to start withdrawing. will be probably aiming to reach the 10k and withdraw them all. Will give it the 50 or 100k a go. At worst, the cost will not affect my bank. It’s a 350 to 400$ total cost
yep most of the firms require a buffer safety net to be cleared first before pulling out the profits. SO in short its kinda 2 step. First evaluation and then the buffer. Better check their payout policy.
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #35,527
  • Apr 28, 2024 1:11am Apr 28, 2024 1:11am
I was checking the youtube and found some interesting prop firms which i never heard of :=
Inserted Video


Here is the list -
https://www.fintokei.com/
https://funderpro.com/
https://monevis.com/en
https://alphacapitalgroup.uk/
https://fundsfortraders.com/
https://www.indigotraderfunding.com/
Extreme gut feeling trader
  • #35,528
  • Apr 28, 2024 1:49am Apr 28, 2024 1:49am
Quoting montygoldy
I was checking the youtube and found some interesting prop firms which i never heard of := https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pln-...rndSkorupinski Here is the list - https://www.fintokei.com/...
Thanks.

And these have MT4:
https://fundsfortraders.com/
https://www.indigotraderfunding.com/
MetaTrader 4 - so many advantages.
  • #35,529
  • Apr 28, 2024 1:51am Apr 28, 2024 1:51am
Quoting HengkiTjen
Hi Capablanca Did you fill out form ?get 1 % instead? Or should we wait ? What a shame FE really good firm have to go under Not enough registered fee to pay trader I
I didn't fill anything because I'm still doing the challenge. I don't have a funded in FE.
  • #35,530
  • Apr 28, 2024 1:54am Apr 28, 2024 1:54am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The only "extra" rule is 3 profitable days of 0.5%, othere than that it is traditional 2 step MFF, FTMO, with better scaling........every 10% without having to wait 3-4 months every time. I am the same, 1, maybe 2 trades daily.
5ers has, by far, the best scaling program. Miles away from the others I'm aware of.
E8 is also good. They pay but the payment is not deducted from the balance so it's like increasing the DD for that amount in each payout.
Finotive has the worse (they forfeit profits for scale).
Alpha is the second worse because we need to have the 10% in the account for scaling (after scaling it can be withdraw).
  • #35,531
  • Apr 28, 2024 2:11am Apr 28, 2024 2:11am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} I didn't fill anything because I'm still doing the challenge. I don't have a funded in FE.
they still owed me payout $5k+
that really sad, because no business form us all firms struggling
  • #35,532
  • Apr 28, 2024 2:18am Apr 28, 2024 2:18am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} I think it's a fair way to assess/compare trader's abilities over the long term. It also protects investors from some rogue trader (expo33) going coo coo for cocoa puffs. The example in the video explaining VaR really makes sense to me. It keeps the YOLO crowd from getting rewarded over a consistent trader with solid risk management. Otherwise, it would be like competing in a prop firm competition where you need to earn 400% in a month to win anything. Especially since you can reset you account for $70. It would encourage the YOLO strategy....
There is a potential innovation of existing props combining all the models best pieces. But you have to have some degree of math abilities for the actual trading. Even if someone has a good VaR score you probably have to clean the flow a bit. I am still somewhat skeptical about Darwinex actually giving “real” capital because of emotional variance that is super common in retail traders but it gives me some ideas on how it can be managed
  • #35,533
  • Apr 28, 2024 2:30am Apr 28, 2024 2:30am
Hi, there anyone can tell me some way to get some 5k free challenge giveaway or 10k free challenge giveaway
I have made a strategy and I want to test out but I don't have any money left to buy even the smallest challenge
I want to know ways how I can get some giveaway or earn atleast 50 $ online
I am trying youtube videos as well but as you know its not easy to get youtube channel monetized
So if I did not get any giveaway it will be tough to make atleast 50 $ online via youtube
  • #35,534
  • Apr 28, 2024 2:41am Apr 28, 2024 2:41am
I have joined every prop firm discord just in case some giveaway pops in
  • #35,535
  • Apr 28, 2024 3:38am Apr 28, 2024 3:38am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The only "extra" rule is 3 profitable days of 0.5%, othere than that it is traditional 2 step MFF, FTMO, with better scaling........every 10% without having to wait 3-4 months every time. I am the same, 1, maybe 2 trades daily.
If I compare to the ruleless type it also is the news rule etc. But its fine, I am going to the moon on my 5ers account. Actually its the first account I am excited for because of the scaling dopamine hit. The scaling does promote a consistency element which is good and fits into what I have been thinking about recently with the prop firm model and sustainability.

There is a way to measure traders beyond static % returns. So long as that way is clearly written I think its the best way forward in terms of sustainability.

Also I was introduced to an actual virtual game with cash rewards that I have passed onto the "ex" prop firm people I know as that would satiate the small account value and gambling types. There will be a way to have everything and be sustainable, but it won't come from these kids with FPFX contracts.
  • #35,536
  • Apr 28, 2024 3:49am Apr 28, 2024 3:49am
Quoting genuine007
Hi, there anyone can tell me some way to get some 5k free challenge giveaway or 10k free challenge giveaway I have made a strategy and I want to test out but I don't have any money left to buy even the smallest challenge I want to know ways how I can get some giveaway or earn atleast 50 $ online I am trying youtube videos as well but as you know its not easy to get youtube channel monetized So if I did not get any giveaway it will be tough to make atleast 50 $ online via youtube
that's a shame
  • #35,537
  • Apr 28, 2024 4:32am Apr 28, 2024 4:32am
Quoting genuine007
Hi, there anyone can tell me some way to get some 5k free challenge giveaway or 10k free challenge giveaway I have made a strategy and I want to test out but I don't have any money left to buy even the smallest challenge I want to know ways how I can get some giveaway or earn atleast 50 $ online I am trying youtube videos as well but as you know its not easy to get youtube channel monetized So if I did not get any giveaway it will be tough to make atleast 50 $ online via youtube

The cheapest tested offer is swift funding. Currently 15$ 5k account. I bought one for 10$ and already been paid twice for total 500$ now waiting for 3 payout around 300$ . Payouts take 5 business days by rise but they pay as far as i check discord.
  • #35,538
  • Apr 28, 2024 5:01am Apr 28, 2024 5:01am
Hearing rumors Fundingpips is going to rug. I suspect that it’s not rug but they will take the moment to do something whilst others down
  • #35,539
  • Apr 28, 2024 5:23am Apr 28, 2024 5:23am
Quoting Takisd
Hearing rumors Fundingpips is going to rug. I suspect that it’s not rug but they will take the moment to do something whilst others down
Every day a new episode of this fantastic prop show

I'm probably following the wrong accounts in X because I saw nothing yet.
  • #35,540
  • Apr 28, 2024 5:27am Apr 28, 2024 5:27am
Quoting youngD
{quote} The cheapest tested offer is swift funding. Currently 15$ 5k account. I bought one for 10$ and already been paid twice for total 500$ now waiting for 3 payout around 300$ . Payouts take 5 business days by rise but they pay as far as i check discord.
15$ for 5k
but how you bought it for 10$ only?
I would like to buy 1 at 10$ only
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