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  • #34,861
  • Apr 13, 2024 8:19am Apr 13, 2024 8:19am
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} there is no radar its just a misconception. They have the details of total payout so either you make 2k in 2 payouts or in 1 payout samething.
I don't think so. I have received more than 10 payouts in some firms (some that don't even exist) amounting a reasonable amount. I doubt that I have received that if I've chosen to receive it in 1 or 2 payouts.
It's different to realize at some point that some guy stole 30K from them in very small chunks than having a big 20K hit in first payout.

I believe they get may get annoyed with my lifetime payouts but they are more cautious in denying a 2K, 3K or 5K payout because of reputation of denying a small amount.

Even more strange is that some with reasonable negative P&L with me allow me to buy new challenge after I blow up the acocunt.
  • #34,862
  • Apr 13, 2024 8:23am Apr 13, 2024 8:23am
As expected the artists are starting to invade the futures arena.

https://twitter.com/FuturesFlow
I think they didn't start but are preparing it. This will be the branch of Funding Pips in the futures arena.

All the scumbags will come to futures.
  • #34,863
  • Apr 13, 2024 8:28am Apr 13, 2024 8:28am
Quoting Capablanca
As expected the artists are starting to invade the futures arena. https://twitter.com/FuturesFlow I think they didn't start but are preparing it. This will be the branch of Funding Pips in the futures arena. All the scumbags will come to futures.
FundingPips too with FundingTicks
I saw khaled talking that is was FundingTicks maybe is FuturesFlow idk
  • #34,864
  • Apr 13, 2024 9:03am Apr 13, 2024 9:03am
Quoting procrude
I am confused as how some people can get so much payout with apex... i would this work when draw down is so low? {image}
trailing drawdown stops at some level and stays there.

For 50 K account when you get to 52500, drawdown stops then at 52500. Even if your account is at 100000 your drawdown stays at 52500.
  • #34,865
  • Apr 13, 2024 9:19am Apr 13, 2024 9:19am
I hope Future Prop Firms remain for a long time ! We all wanna make money !
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #34,866
  • Apr 13, 2024 9:22am Apr 13, 2024 9:22am
Quoting procrude
I am confused as how some people can get so much payout with apex... i would this work when draw down is so low? {image}
poeple make alot man.. patrick youtuber have 30k on each on account and his goal is to pull 500k after the 3 month cap.
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  • #34,867
  • Apr 13, 2024 9:32am Apr 13, 2024 9:32am
Quoting Eren10
{quote} Actually smart thought to try it once . With 10 contracts you need 60 points. And the price should not come back when visited 50-59 range. There are spots where the price forms double bottom, there one can try its luck. Actually US100 is more suited for one attempt tries. As far as I saw US100 goes more one directional.
thats hoe i yolo’ed 100 evals in a week to get to 20 pa accounts. aimed for 1 trade for 60 points on dow
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  • #34,868
  • Apr 13, 2024 9:34am Apr 13, 2024 9:34am
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Quoting montygoldy
Final Update improved PnL, could have easily made over 1500$ today but i am trying to be consistent around 300-500$. ALready have a 950$ day a huge spike in my APex pnl chart. Well done monty, the futures cowboy..I remember in the beginning you not happy with the trailing DD but obviously you found your way here. I'm so happy for you..keep it going..
yep bro we learn from failures and adapt. Now i have openly failed 100evals.. prepared me for other firms challenges taking 3 x 150 on myfundedfutures which costs with current offers is in total 150$. Hoping to clear them with less failures. Thats always been my gameplan for prop firms from the beginning buy cheap challenges and try out all sort of things and gain experience. Once you know what works for you then milk the good ones.
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  • #34,869
  • Apr 13, 2024 9:39am Apr 13, 2024 9:39am
Quoting procrude
I hope Future Prop Firms remain for a long time ! We all wanna make money !
it will my gut feeling says coz of the rules in place and more regulated as well. They”ll sustain atleast the good ones.
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  • #34,870
  • Apr 13, 2024 9:45am Apr 13, 2024 9:45am
Next week is way important
1.4.5k + fess withdrawal from FundingTraders on monday
2. friday 30k withaw date for apex
3. ftmo also try to pull some money in order to get challenge fees back by changing the withdaw date trick.

thats all of my prop firm portofolio.

after payout i have planned some things
1. Upgrade my workstation and get a pc coz quantower wont work on mac.
2. Get more funding already bought 3x150k evals from myfundedfutures. Next in line is topstep max, elitetrader max and bulenox max.
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  • #34,871
  • Apr 13, 2024 10:56am Apr 13, 2024 10:56am
Quoting Capablanca
I doubt that I have received that if I've chosen to receive it in 1 or 2 payouts. It's different to realize at some point that some guy stole 30K from them in very small chunks than having a big 20K hit in first payout.
-Honestly, I think that these firms are probably looking at things through a narrow lens. They are probably more concerned about what a trader is doing this month, rather than what sort of total damage he has done up to this point. I doubt that they are tracking trader totals unless a trader is pulling higher figures each month.

I suspect that they are worried about what is happening this month, not about what has happened in previous months or what could happen in future months etc.. They are concerned with the now and about being able to make payouts. Just my guess, but if I am right, then it's all the more reason to not be greedy and to just stay under the radar.

Especially with firms like Apex... keeping your withdrawals in line with their default maximums ensures that you and everyone else can maintain access for the long-term. Feeding your ego by trying to set records and make top-10 will not serve the community well and is really just selfish and greedy. Being able to dump 80k into your personal account each month should be enough for anyone. Just my opinion, but the fact remains that if enough people try to be hotshots, then it could ultimately kill the whole opportunity.

Probably not what people want to hear, but all-too-often we talk about responsibility when it comes to how firms should behave. But I believe that responsibility should fall on everyone, including the traders.
  • #34,872
  • Apr 13, 2024 10:57am Apr 13, 2024 10:57am
Quoting montygoldy
Next week is way important 1.4.5k + fess withdrawal from FundingTraders on monday 2. friday 30k withaw date for apex 3. ftmo also try to pull some money in order to get challenge fees back by changing the withdaw date trick. thats all of my prop firm portofolio. after payout i have planned some things 1. Upgrade my workstation and get a pc coz quantower wont work on mac. 2. Get more funding already bought 3x150k evals from myfundedfutures. Next in line is topstep max, elitetrader max and bulenox max.
can you elaborate on tye FTMO withdraw trick ?
  • #34,873
  • Apr 13, 2024 11:28am Apr 13, 2024 11:28am
Quoting montygoldy
Next week is way important 1.4.5k + fess withdrawal from FundingTraders on monday 2. friday 30k withaw date for apex 3. ftmo also try to pull some money in order to get challenge fees back by changing the withdaw date trick. thats all of my prop firm portofolio. after payout i have planned some things 1. Upgrade my workstation and get a pc coz quantower wont work on mac. 2. Get more funding already bought 3x150k evals from myfundedfutures. Next in line is topstep max, elitetrader max and bulenox max.

Hi Montygoldy.

You say that:

3. ftmo also try to pull some money in order to get challenge fees back by changing the withdaw date trick.

What do you mean with changing the withdraw date trick? I am in a challenge account with them - what do you advise me to do, in order to get my challenge fee back and withdrawing profits?
  • #34,874
  • Apr 13, 2024 11:41am Apr 13, 2024 11:41am
Hi, can u some suggestions as per ur experience best propfirms with less challenges and genuine.
I am reading ur blogs. I also want try.
  • #34,875
  • Edited 12:46pm Apr 13, 2024 12:31pm | Edited 12:46pm
Quoting Stoneyrocks
{quote} can you elaborate on tye FTMO withdraw trick ?
i saw it on youtube you have option to change withdrawal dates 3 times so once you make some money in account change the withdrawal date to something closer rather than 2 weeks.

I am not sure how it works need to try it once funded coz k saw on one of the youtube videos
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  • #34,876
  • Edited 12:46pm Apr 13, 2024 12:33pm | Edited 12:46pm
Quoting deroty
{quote} Hi Montygoldy. You say that: 3. ftmo also try to pull some money in order to get challenge fees back by changing the withdaw date trick. What do you mean with changing the withdraw date trick? I am in a challenge account with them - what do you advise me to do, in order to get my challenge fee back and withdrawing profits?
youtube it i saw it on a video you can change the withdrawal date 3 times you can change it to something closet maybe next day after passing the challenge. Play conservatively for first 1% profit and then go with regular risk and loss should go beyond account original balance. Thats how i do it risk my profits to make more so even if i fail i come back to breakeven
i am not also sure how it works so need to try it once passed
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  • #34,877
  • Apr 13, 2024 12:46pm Apr 13, 2024 12:46pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} youtube it i saw it on a video you can change the withdrawal date 3 times you can change it to something closet maybe next day after passing the challenge. Play conservatively for first 1% profit and then go with regular risk and loss should go beyond account original balance. Thats how i do it risk my profits to make more so even if i fail i come back to breakeven i am not also sure how it works so need to try it once passed
Thank you Montygoldy.
  • #34,878
  • Apr 13, 2024 12:51pm Apr 13, 2024 12:51pm
Quoting montygoldy
{quote} thats hoe i yolo’ed 100 evals in a week to get to 20 pa accounts. aimed for 1 trade for 60 points on dow

So you have spent about $ 6-7 k and now you have a trading balance of $ 50 k.

That looks definitely promising.
  • #34,879
  • Apr 13, 2024 1:28pm Apr 13, 2024 1:28pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Being able to dump 80k into your personal account each month should be enough for anyone.
Greed will kill a trading account faster than a crappy strategy
  • #34,880
  • Apr 13, 2024 1:30pm Apr 13, 2024 1:30pm
Quoting Eren10
{quote} So you have spent about $ 6-7 k and now you have a trading balance of $ 50 k. That looks definitely promising.
Check my previous post i posted the exact statistics of apex investment. 6580$ to be exact in evals(this money could have been way way way less if i didnot try to pass it in 1 trade coz 99% odf time price hit my tp but before that it went to breakeven to take me out) + one time fee. 15 accounts will be eligible to pull 2k out of it on friday leaving behind atleast 2k or more drawdown (so its not like payment then account gone no no aim is to pull 2k every 10 days out of them) and rest 5 account the following week.
30k - 6580$ --> 23k + change in aprrox 2 to 2.5 weeks is a good deal in my eyes and well worth for my efforts.
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