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  • #33,761
  • Mar 31, 2024 8:39am Mar 31, 2024 8:39am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} https://www.flexytrade.com/
You sure this isn't run by the guy who owns The Funded Trader? One man's cartoon knight is another man's bullfighter.
  • #33,762
  • Mar 31, 2024 9:48am Mar 31, 2024 9:48am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-All I know is that several people on the list have already been confirmed. I think, it is also not difficult to surmise what is possible. {quote}-“Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.” ― Henry Ford
but wait, confirmed about how high was payment?
was ist very high or only 4 or 5 figures?
was ist a legit person or can be a person connected to company?
is it a famous person (youtube, influencer ...) , so this dont count and calculates as marketing costs.....

i know only some people who can earn more then 100k in private real accounts month over month. nobody would even touch a prop because of their experience and not paying.
  • #33,763
  • Mar 31, 2024 9:52am Mar 31, 2024 9:52am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} You’re the one having a speculating meltdown over what others are achieving. I couldn’t care less.
you wrote without arguments ,just attacking words...

and then you write about other has a meltdown to hide your problem? irony, or ?

but lets really stop this, you dont have arguments to discuss in this situation because of personality or trading topic or are not experienced enough (looks like even you have real account dont help you here).

this is a good example of the internet problem of trolling without arguments and then hiding (i did only see you do this now once to me (and still dont know why, because you cant bring any argument or reason), so no need to block you. but when you do often just trolling and no arguments, thats the time to block someone).
  • #33,764
  • Mar 31, 2024 10:38am Mar 31, 2024 10:38am
Quoting JustPipMe
{quote} I read NinjaTrader not taking on any new futures props. Unverified source but can dig up where I read it, if anyone cares enough. I don’t, haha.
I think that is good for all of us. I wish the forex space would have been like that......but they just kept popping up daily.
  • #33,765
  • Mar 31, 2024 10:40am Mar 31, 2024 10:40am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-The simple fact that they cannot interfere with the data feed (presumably) and the products are regulated, should hopefully set these props apart from their FX counterparts.
That's what I'm assuming (hoping).
  • #33,766
  • Mar 31, 2024 10:42am Mar 31, 2024 10:42am
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-Speaking of Quantower, I am actively working on trying to transition to QT. I am in contact with a programmer that might be able to convert two TradingView indicators so that they work in QT. If I can manage that, then I should be golden. I know you mentioned it, but I do not like the idea of using MT5 for charting and QT for trades. I am just too OCD for that. Worse-case, I will compromise though. By the way, I noticed that AMP offers a fully-licensed version of QT for trading, whereas Apex doesn't. I wonder if we are able to use the fully-licensed...
Great point, however, when I am in quantower, it appears as AMP and rithmic are two different feeds. I use MT5 with AMP, I am going to try quantower with them and investigate a bit further. I simply do not know enough to comment if it'll work or not.
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  • #33,767
  • Mar 31, 2024 10:47am Mar 31, 2024 10:47am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Great point, however, when I am in quantower, it appears as AMP and rithmic are two different feeds. I use MT5 with AMP, I am going to try quantower with them and investigate a bit further. {image}
Yes CQG is a feed for AMP and rithmic is another
  • #33,768
  • Mar 31, 2024 10:48am Mar 31, 2024 10:48am
I'm hearing the providers who'd enable a firm to get in the Futures space are rejecting applications / proposals and doing more due diligence.

Perhaps they've see the types who've got involved with the FX prop and don't want to attract attention from regulators / others.

Although like anything with lots of money involved, it may not take long for anyone to be able to get in the space.
  • #33,769
  • Mar 31, 2024 11:10am Mar 31, 2024 11:10am
Quoting PropDude1234
I'm hearing the providers who'd enable a firm to get in the Futures space are rejecting applications / proposals and doing more due diligence. Perhaps they've see the types who've got involved with the FX prop and don't want to attract attention from regulators / others. Although like anything with lots of money involved, it may not take long for anyone to be able to get in the space.
Yes!!!!!Awesome news. For once, folks are actually going to learn from previous mistakes.
  • #33,770
  • Edited 11:30am Mar 31, 2024 11:17am | Edited 11:30am
As it seems like I'm the only one left on this thread trading prop, I'm actually rooting for Angelo and company to get in there and disruprupt the industry you know revolutionize it a bit. Maybe then prop can go back to normal. Just kidding I wish you all well going forward with futures. Im going to stay put until the lights are cut off. Which might not be to far away.
  • #33,771
  • Mar 31, 2024 11:25am Mar 31, 2024 11:25am
Quoting woody70
As it seems like I'm the only one left on this thread trading prop, I'm actually rooting for Angelo and company to get in there and disruprupt the industry you know revolutionize it a bit. Maybe then prop can go back to normal. Just kidding I wish you all well going forward with futures. Im going to stay put until the lights are cut off. Witch might not be to far away.
I am very keen on the opportunity after this trash is removed. Matt Leech and Sean Bainton next and finally khaled. Once they are gone the industry can move forward without the stench.
  • #33,772
  • Mar 31, 2024 12:35pm Mar 31, 2024 12:35pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Great point, however, when I am in quantower, it appears as AMP and rithmic are two different feeds. I use MT5 with AMP, I am going to try quantower with them and investigate a bit further. I simply do not know enough to comment if it'll work or not. {image}
AMP isn't a feed. The platforms they provide are compatible with different feeds. CQG, Rithmic, etc. MT5 is only available with CQG feed. Some platforms are compatible with both. 50+ Best Trading Platform | AMP Futures
Trade with confidence, trade without fear.
  • #33,773
  • Mar 31, 2024 1:22pm Mar 31, 2024 1:22pm
Quoting pipmaster77
For once, folks are actually going to learn from previous mistakes.
Apparently so. Many posters in this thread have apparently seen the light of day and switched to futures. None will switch back, that’s for sure. I congratulate them all and wish them well.
  • #33,774
  • Mar 31, 2024 1:54pm Mar 31, 2024 1:54pm
Quoting Quickly
{quote} Apparently so. Many posters in this thread have apparently seen the light of day and switched to futures. None will switch back, that’s for sure. I congratulate them all and wish them well.
A few have already switched back because futures firms suck.
  • #33,775
  • Mar 31, 2024 2:26pm Mar 31, 2024 2:26pm
Quoting Quickly
{quote} Apparently so. Many posters in this thread have apparently seen the light of day and switched to futures. None will switch back, that’s for sure. I congratulate them all and wish them well.
Never switched to futures and never will
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #33,776
  • Mar 31, 2024 2:31pm Mar 31, 2024 2:31pm
Quoting woody70
As it seems like I'm the only one left on this thread trading prop, I'm actually rooting for Angelo and company to get in there and disruprupt the industry you know revolutionize it a bit. Maybe then prop can go back to normal. Just kidding I wish you all well going forward with futures. Im going to stay put until the lights are cut off. Which might not be to far away.
There's still a fair few left trading fx props, obviously a lot of the US guys had the better options removed so futures it is for them. Fx still has the better offers from my view point, however I'm giving futures props a run out on the side.
  • #33,777
  • Mar 31, 2024 2:39pm Mar 31, 2024 2:39pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} I am very keen on the opportunity after this trash is removed. Matt Leech and Sean Bainton next and finally khaled. Once they are gone the industry can move forward without the stench.
Leave Matt till last please, he's still paying me nicely without issue. Lovely chap, unless your on the lookout for an EA that is
  • #33,778
  • Mar 31, 2024 2:42pm Mar 31, 2024 2:42pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} AMP isn't a feed. The platforms they provide are compatible with different feeds. CQG, Rithmic, etc. MT5 is only available with CQG feed. Some platforms are compatible with both. 50+ Best Trading Platform | AMP Futures
Ah, OK. Thanks for explanation. As I stated, I admittedly do not know enough. So if I go amp with rithmic feed, I should get full quantower license included and be able to copy all accounts? That is awesome.
  • #33,779
  • Mar 31, 2024 2:48pm Mar 31, 2024 2:48pm
Quoting PropDude1234
I'm hearing the providers who'd enable a firm to get in the Futures space are rejecting applications / proposals and doing more due diligence. Perhaps they've see the types who've got involved with the FX prop and don't want to attract attention from regulators / others. Although like anything with lots of money involved, it may not take long for anyone to be able to get in the space.
Someone here mentioned ninja, and on twitter I heard tradovate not accepting any new evaluation firms.
  • #33,780
  • Mar 31, 2024 2:49pm Mar 31, 2024 2:49pm
Quoting Vitore
{quote} Never switched to futures and never will
After having analyzed futures for a few years I can finally understand why the old dogs here are so reluctant with futures. Especially last year I noticed how the HFT in futures picked up speed. Creating way more noise than earlier. Maybe since Im a newbie I just started to really notice it. But it was somewhere around 5 months ago a major change in speed HFT picks up and changed noise more.

So can understand retail traders who likes manual trading and avoids the futures arena as it seems will be very tough for "manual" traders in the future to do futures. They will have to hire programmers as I see it to keep up. But then again I mostly think about NQ. I never cared about the rest. From what I read about history the big algo boom in 2000s shook the retail traders. Now it seems another level of HFT is arising. Theres ways to adapt to this new HFT arising, but due to AI rapidly growing now too. I would if I was a professional manual trader do anything to escape markets heavily influenced by HFT as much as possible. I can see how futures prop firms lick their mouths without the unknowingly newbie retail traders as the HFT decreases the chance of success for the manual trading as time moves on now.

This is just some unbiased newbie view.
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