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  • #31,001
  • Feb 18, 2024 1:45pm Feb 18, 2024 1:45pm
Quoting KarlKraus
{quote} You can’t help people who are so absolutely determined not to be helped. In the wider world of trading, they’re obviously a small minority. Here, however, they’re apparently the majority, or at least they’re the ones with the loudest voices, which really easily drown out anyone who tries to offer fact rather than (biased) opinion. As we’ve seen over the last few months, some people with real experience, qualifications and/or expertise, who actually understand the industry, DO actually appear in this thread, one at a time, but inevitably...
i dont understand you, you are uneducated (or do by purpose tell wrong facts about futures) in some trading topics, you speak about a facts wrong again and again...

and same times you rand about other people. its like you hate yourself and rand about yourself, because you hate what you do all the time.
how crazy is this???? and you friend is even applaud your mistakes again and again, you two create this Comedy show really hard here.

i really love when people educate other, even when they dont want here the truth. but what you 2 do, often tell wrong facts, that is really misleading.
it is like you are working for a future prop company and write this wrong facts by purpose. or you dont know about trading outside of funds, so no real market experience , and you really dont know it better. but you both are unable to learn from your mistakes, always repeating this mistakes from morning to the night , so looks like you do this by purpose to want misguiding other trader (or "players" in case of props, how ever you will call this gaming niche market around traders).
  • #31,002
  • Feb 18, 2024 1:54pm Feb 18, 2024 1:54pm
Quoting ladder
Why has Masterrmind not shown up for a long time? We have been watching daily circus shows presented by Quickly and Karlkraus (the same person). Now vidvad also comes to pollute this thread with their Futures prop crap.
-I honestly would not mind these guys popping in to share their knowledge and experience, but unfortunately, they choose to not do that, for some reason.

Instead, they make degrading remarks and condescending assumptions about everyone here, and then always follow up with the same, very generalized statements that do not offer any real value to this thread. Then they pretend like they are the victims, even though they are the ones that are insulting people at every turn.

I think, if they were to consider a less abrasive and condescending approach, then their message might be more well-received here. However, it does not seem like they are interested in doing that.
  • #31,003
  • Feb 18, 2024 1:54pm Feb 18, 2024 1:54pm
Quoting vidvad
You guys are touchy.
-Not everyone here is quick to pounce. But for those that seem that way, you can thank Quickly and Karlkraus for that.
  • #31,004
  • Feb 18, 2024 1:54pm Feb 18, 2024 1:54pm
Quoting Capablanca
there's a clear try to pick up business here from futures prop. Some are easy to spot, some are more subtle like this last one. I'm fine with futures prop.
-I am also fine with discussing futures prop. However, I have yet to see any that offer MT5 with no abusive trailing draw-down. As such, it is not something that I comment on here.
  • #31,005
  • Feb 18, 2024 1:55pm Feb 18, 2024 1:55pm
Quoting Nehemah
News from TFT : **New Minimum Stop/Limit Distances:**
-I would never, ever trade with/for anyone that imposed a minimum SL distance, especially since the draw-down limits are already defined. Anyone that wants to get that involved with my trading, should just be trading the accounts themselves.
  • #31,006
  • Feb 18, 2024 1:56pm Feb 18, 2024 1:56pm
Quoting TrAndy1
Crypto Fund Trader Announcement To protect our users and to anticipate possible circumstances due to the current news about propfirms and to keep our Full License of MetaQuotes, we will temporarily block purchases coming from the US on MetaTrader 5. Current US users will have no problem with this, accounts will remain active. They will also be able to purchase evaluations on CFT Platform. Thanks for your understanding!
These guys might be in a strong position with having their own trading platform. All they would have to do is to create a MT4/5 trade copier app for copying trades to CFT. After that they would have full independence from any platform provider. They could even license it to other props.
  • #31,007
  • Feb 18, 2024 1:58pm Feb 18, 2024 1:58pm
I'm really stuck here. I've managed to re-code most of my MT5 indicators and EA over to TradingView over the past week. I can send buy/sell signals either via webhook or alerts, or I can actually trigger a buy/sell by changing my indicator to a strategy (however I can't make it buy/sell mid candle with this method).

So... now what to do with that? I can use tradingconnector.com with alerts to get to MT5 (used it in the past OK), and the latency is low because it uses a Chrome browser extension to capture the alert and send it to MT5 via a local .exe file. Or I can use web hooks via pineconnector.com and then you aren't relying on a web browser or a local .exe at all, but latency can be up to a minute at times (might be OK if you are using higher timeframe candles of course). The first option lets me do more granular alerts for specific accounts if I want, meaning I could use alerts for other things at the same time like crypto, futures, etc. if I wanted. Neither have an option to filter news events, and I haven't figured out how to code all that into Trading View natively yet, so that rules out accounts like MFFX, The5ers, etc. for MT5 that don't allow trading news, but everyone is moving to DXTrade anyway, which is why I'm going down this road and trying to move away from MT5.

Currently, I have found zero solutions to automate anything with DXTrade. I can't find a way to copy trades from MT5 to DXTrade, and I can't find a way to automate buys/sells directly from TradingView to DXTrade. Since I'm being forced to DXTrade this week with several of my accounts, I'm unsure what to do. Trading each one manually is going to be a pill.

There appear to be several solutions for getting a Trading View alert or webhook to crypto exchanges, but most of them are ones that don't support US citizens or don't exist anymore, like binance.us. Coinbase has fees that are too high to be worth it. I haven't found a way to go to Kraken yet, still looking into that one.

I'd like to find a way to get Trading View alerts or webhooks to Tradeovate or NinjaTrader or whatever platform is best for trading futures. This is a new arena for me though and I don't know what most people use. I've been googling for over an hour and finding no real good solution for automating futures trading from Trading View.

Any suggestions or thoughts on all of this? This is why I said a few days ago that I thought Trading View was great for charting, but terrible for automation. I'm just not finding a lot of great solutions for these various markets. Love it or hate it, MT5 made things easy.
  • #31,008
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:04pm Feb 18, 2024 2:04pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} TFF is shit. They don’t payout the big payouts. They do ban cycles regularly. But I have also said for ages I have account there.
TFF is in the top 5 since 18 months.
A prop firm that pays 3 million per month can't be bad.
The only negative point is their support which has become robotic.
By the way, hope TFF will be back soon.
  • #31,009
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:10pm Feb 18, 2024 2:10pm
Quoting Nehemah
{quote} TFF is in the top 5 since 18 months. A prop firm that pays 3 million per month can't be bad. The only negative point is their support which has become robotic. By the way, hope TFF will be back soon.
Experienced very poor trade execution from them several times. Some times trades didn't close or open for up to 10-20 minutes.
  • #31,010
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:17pm Feb 18, 2024 2:17pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-I am also fine with discussing futures prop. However, I have yet to see any that offer MT5 with no abusive trailing draw-down. As such, it is not something that I comment on here.
Yes. I posted just the other day........provide me 20X max loss for my "fee", static DD, you can even keep the 1 stage bullshit, I'll do a 2 stage 8%/5% target with MT5. Amp has futures on MT5, so it is available.
I will purchase the max accounts available at whatever firm will give me an apples to aplles offering of the forex props.
Instead, any firm offering static is providing $625 max loss on a "100K" account with a 2K target and a 2 mini contract limit.
Even the evil trailing DD requires more than a flip. It looks cheap with all of the discounts, but once you pay the monthly sub or lifetime activation fee, it is parallel with a forex prop pricing without anything close to the value.
Apex, as an example, even with the 80% off, is $34 for $2,500 trailing, then you pay $140......now you are at $174 for 2500 trailing DD, equivalent of paying $700 for a 100K forex eval with 10K static loss.
Static is $27 for $625 max loss plus the I think $180 activation for this one........ $207 for $625, it's like paying $3,312 for a 100K with 10K loss and I need to flip 3+ times to pass....it's worse than having to pass an 8/5 forex eval TWICE OVER!!!!!!
  • #31,011
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:19pm Feb 18, 2024 2:19pm
Quoting TraderTero
{quote} Experienced very poor trade execution from them several times. Some times trades didn't close or open for up to 10-20 minutes.
That's true. Experienced that too. They solved several times this issue with more or less success
  • #31,012
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:26pm Feb 18, 2024 2:26pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} They are not permitted, they just have not come under the same regulatory pressure as Meta has........Meta has, by far, the largest market share, so very easy to instantly cease all prop operations with one shot. The new platforms are by no means a permanent solution, only temporary until they also fold to over reaching regulatory pressure from the CFTC. This really almost needs to be an underground space now. AS we keep advertising who is still accepting US clients, they go down within hours or days, same will happen with the platforms.......anyone...

Not clear to me then why these firms r hurting their business by going against us authority. If cfds or certain leverage or certain instruments r not permitted for USA clients then isn't it possible to offer two different packages for USA n non USA clients. When a USA client want to join they will get USA permitted trading environment n other clients wiil get normal one.

As USA has big client base so no one want to miss them, so why it's so difficult to offer USA clients as per USA authority
  • #31,013
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:31pm Feb 18, 2024 2:31pm
Quoting inversio
{quote} Not clear to me then why these firms r hurting their business by going against us authority. If cfds or certain leverage or certain instruments r not permitted for USA clients then isn't it possible to offer two different packages for USA n non USA clients. When a USA client want to join they will get USA permitted trading environment n other clients wiil get normal one. As USA has big client base so no one want to miss them, so why it's so difficult to offer USA clients as per USA authority
The 20 million dollar capital requirement to be registered with CFTC/NFA would be my guess.
Same reason all of the good brokers of the world do not have a US trading environment.
No offence to anyone and I know most are trying to help, but unless you live it, you truly have no idea what "the land of the free" is like.
  • #31,014
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:32pm Feb 18, 2024 2:32pm
Quoting Tim_isoara
{quote} You told us that TFF is shit company...and now you have an account... Me...I am happy that TFF comes back.
What's the surprise ? I have been saying bad thing about lots of props, despite I have accounts there and received payouts. A prop can be sh*t and we can milk them anyway. If you just go with the most honest one you are leaving money on the table.
  • #31,015
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:39pm Feb 18, 2024 2:39pm
Quoting Nsak3y
{quote}-I am also fine with discussing futures prop. However, I have yet to see any that offer MT5 with no abusive trailing draw-down. As such, it is not something that I comment on here.
Which is strange because if they are honest and legit, abiding by law, as several already said, then they could offer MT5 without any problem with US.
That's what a real futures broker like AMP Futures does. We can trade futures in MT5 there.
Doesn't matter if MT5 is good or bad, let traders decide that, but it's strange that no "honest" prop is offering it when so many are used to it (and for sure would prefer it over tradovate, rithmic, Nonja, etc.)
  • #31,016
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:43pm Feb 18, 2024 2:43pm
Quoting TraderTero
{quote} Experienced very poor trade execution from them several times. Some times trades didn't close or open for up to 10-20 minutes.
True, I experienced that twice. I don't think it's enough to consider them bad because other props also had glitches, like E8 and even MFF.
What pisses me off id they bad posture of not reimbursing traders for their technical problems. This is what makes them bad compared to others in that particular.
Out of that their execution is excellent for low lots up to 5, aprox, and very good spreads, although they charge heavily (7/lot)
  • #31,017
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:44pm Feb 18, 2024 2:44pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes. I posted just the other day........provide me 20X max loss for my "fee", static DD, you can even keep the 1 stage bullshit, I'll do a 2 stage 8%/5% target with MT5. Amp has futures on MT5, so it is available. I will purchase the max accounts available at whatever firm will give me an apples to aplles offering of the forex props. Instead, any firm offering static is providing $625 max loss on a "100K" account with a 2K target and a 2 mini contract limit. Even the evil trailing DD requires more than a flip. It looks cheap with all of...
And they say forex are the evils....
  • #31,018
  • Edited 3:02pm Feb 18, 2024 2:49pm | Edited 3:02pm
Guys is myfundedfx accepting us clients? there support is offline. I know they have active dxtrade. I am itching to buy a challenge tonight.
Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #31,019
  • Feb 18, 2024 2:54pm Feb 18, 2024 2:54pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The 20 million dollar capital requirement to be registered with CFTC/NFA would be my guess. Same reason all of the good brokers of the world do not have a US trading environment. No offence to anyone and I know most are trying to help, but unless you live it, you truly have no idea what "the land of the free" is like.

Then I believe only option is to go off-shore, that's also has some cost but not like this much, and that would also help to leave some shitty firm behind.

And finally that might be the final outcome by going offshore, cz u can't fight with the shark .
  • #31,020
  • Feb 18, 2024 3:07pm Feb 18, 2024 3:07pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The 20 million dollar capital requirement to be registered with CFTC/NFA would be my guess. Same reason all of the good brokers of the world do not have a US trading environment. No offence to anyone and I know most are trying to help, but unless you live it, you truly have no idea what "the land of the free" is like.
Even FTMO decided that was too costly for them.
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