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  • #28,181
  • Jan 12, 2024 11:07am Jan 12, 2024 11:07am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The irony is, with the size some were trading EVEN WITH THE SLIPPAGE MANIPULATION, those traders were still getting better conditions than live on their own. Most do not seem to realize this, as they no clue how markets actually work. They see "slip them to hell" and that he had a nice home and cars and automatically he is a cheater, liar and crook.
Eheheh, it's precisely the reverse. The ones hit with "slip them to hell" were the real cheaters.

In the meantime MFF is not operating and the kid of Bespoke, Cue Banks or Seaman couple are out there spreading their "magic".
  • #28,182
  • Jan 12, 2024 11:11am Jan 12, 2024 11:11am
Quoting Zuke
{quote}what is the true purpose of this investigation etc etc.
The purpose was to look into the complaints filed by the Twitter toddler traders who failed challenges because they didn't know how to trade and needed someone to blame other than themselves.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #28,183
  • Jan 12, 2024 11:31am Jan 12, 2024 11:31am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Eheheh, it's precisely the reverse. The ones hit with "slip them to hell" were the real cheaters. In the meantime MFF is not operating and the kid of Bespoke, Cue Banks or Seaman couple are out there spreading their "magic".
Right, that's what I'm saying....even the cheaters got better conditions than they would have on their own.
  • #28,184
  • Jan 12, 2024 11:39am Jan 12, 2024 11:39am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} I see CTI which has mt5 only had their own coding service for mt4 indicators to mt5. Not sure what they charge etc. I won't promote their link. You'll have to look it up.
thx!
  • #28,185
  • Jan 12, 2024 11:42am Jan 12, 2024 11:42am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} Good for you Josh. The only problem with 5%ers is they don't have mt4 and only glitchy mt5. My experience has been glitchy even with only mt5 and no other stuff loaded. It seems to load slowly with lag in ma's etc. unlike my mt4 with other stuff and loads pretty awesomly fast. Is ninja trader glitchy?
Yup, plus a PITA for tracking completed trades.
Thanks for the heads up on 5ers didn't know they were MT5 only.
I guess that leaves no good prop firms left for MT4 traders???
  • #28,186
  • Jan 12, 2024 12:28pm Jan 12, 2024 12:28pm
Quoting procrude
Hello my fellow Prop Firm Traders. I am looking in to a THREE Phase challenge. Only one I found is the Dragon Challenge with the funded trader program. Do you guys know any other prop firm that offers something similar? Thanks !
I ended up buying the Dragon Challenge of $200K. They had a great promotion which is valid till today. Did some trades today. Not a bad day so far.
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Drawdown is more important than Account Size !
  • #28,187
  • Jan 12, 2024 12:41pm Jan 12, 2024 12:41pm
Prop firm rundown from supposedly the most funded prop trader:
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  • #28,188
  • Jan 12, 2024 12:56pm Jan 12, 2024 12:56pm
Quoting josh1111
Prop firm rundown from supposedly the most funded prop trader: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrDyoX6hTAU
6 million funded trader.

I guess we'll take his word.
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #28,189
  • Jan 12, 2024 1:05pm Jan 12, 2024 1:05pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} 6 million funded trader. I guess we'll take his word.
He is, but he is a reverse trading cheater. Him and a bunch of the other twitter gurus
  • #28,190
  • Jan 12, 2024 1:30pm Jan 12, 2024 1:30pm
Quoting Nsak3y
MFF made it clear, many times, that they did not want cheaters gaming the system. Any artificial manipulations that they applied were an effort to deter cheating and to offer more-realistic conditions; not to cheat traders, but to level the playing field by making things fair and reasonable.
So they say.

How do we know that for a fact? Seems odd to take what MFF say on face value about one thing when they've lied about other things.

They discussed (the CFTC have the correspondence which is in the court documents) anyone making over 5% on the funded accounts being shifted to the 'scalping group' i.e. the group that had harder conditions to trade upon. That's nothing to do with catching cheaters, that's to make it harder for people to profit.

They also made their live conditions harder for some unknown reason. Perhaps if they'd left them alone they'd have been inline with the demo conditions - again we don't know. Plus the sample size of live traders who did worse is so small (<70), it's hard to draw conclusions given we have no idea of the selection criteria for who was placed on 'A-book'.

Quoting josh1111
Prop firm rundown from supposedly the most funded prop trader: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrDyoX6hTAU
6 million in nominal demo money

Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Eheheh, it's precisely the reverse. The ones hit with "slip them to hell" were the real cheaters.
As above, where they? Or were they just people making profit?

Not sure I'd trust a company that apparently can't set up a basic CFD environment to stop EAs (which are so unsophisticated for cheating) from abusing the feed to actually recognise cheating.
  • #28,191
  • Jan 12, 2024 1:39pm Jan 12, 2024 1:39pm
Anyone seen new prop with 50% discount. They use Acg broker and got exactly same rules like Alpha capital.

https://ascendxcapital.com/
  • #28,192
  • Jan 12, 2024 2:01pm Jan 12, 2024 2:01pm
Quoting youngD
Anyone seen new prop with 50% discount. They use Acg broker and got exactly same rules like Alpha capital

OMG.

No address, no phone number, and under "meet the team" there’s only one person, who has no surname!!!!!

Are there REALLY people gullible enough to pay money to things like this?!

I suppose there must be ...
  • #28,193
  • Jan 12, 2024 2:17pm Jan 12, 2024 2:17pm
Quoting KarlKraus
Are there REALLY people gullible enough to pay money to things like this?! I suppose there must be ...
-Give it a rest.
  • #28,194
  • Jan 12, 2024 2:59pm Jan 12, 2024 2:59pm
if not this comment you guys are just saying now i wont now that the MFF are frauds i have been planning to go get an account from them thanks GUYS
  • #28,195
  • Jan 12, 2024 3:06pm Jan 12, 2024 3:06pm
Quoting KarlKraus
Are there REALLY people gullible enough to pay money to things like this?!
There are. The principle is the same as all the deliberate spelling and grammar mistakes in the "Nigerian prince" email fraud: the complete idiocy of it is deliberately and specifically designed to attract ONLY very stupid people (never any payouts, that way).
  • #28,196
  • Jan 12, 2024 3:49pm Jan 12, 2024 3:49pm
TFF (true forex funds) offering 20% discount’thru Jan.17.

”USA20”

appropriately named as they try to grab all the shipwrecked American FTMO traders
A snails pace wins the race :-)
  • #28,197
  • Edited 4:23pm Jan 12, 2024 4:01pm | Edited 4:23pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} The irony is, with the size some were trading EVEN WITH THE SLIPPAGE MANIPULATION, those traders were still getting better conditions than live on their own. Most do not seem to realize this, as they no clue how markets actually work. They see "slip them to hell" and that he had a nice home and cars and automatically he is a cheater, liar and crook.
I love the morons that compare the fill execution on a .5 lot order in their personal account to a 50 lot fill with a 200K prop account... these 2 things are not equal lol.
  • #28,198
  • Jan 12, 2024 5:55pm Jan 12, 2024 5:55pm
Quoting josh1111
Well boys I am over Apex/Futures. Nothing wrong with them, I just have no love for Ninja Trader/Tradovate and felt it was taking some of the fun of trading out for me(especially after losing my ass). That is even after investing in the Replikanto software just to keep multiple accounts trading with risk management settings. Pushed all accounts full throttle super scalper mode and hit the wall hard, no fault but my own. It was a fun distraction but I can't tell you how happy I am putting my focus back into MT4. So much easier for me to use and less...
Trade copying from MT4 to MT5 May rectify your issue if you want to use 5. Although if you prefer 4 as trade interface this suggestion appears redundant
  • #28,199
  • Jan 12, 2024 8:02pm Jan 12, 2024 8:02pm
Quoting Takisd
{quote} He is, but he is a reverse trading cheater. Him and a bunch of the other twitter gurus
See, that's why I took his word
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #28,200
  • Jan 12, 2024 10:07pm Jan 12, 2024 10:07pm
I will say this about MFF.... it's completely baffling why they decided to have their business split in 2 different regulatory jurisdictions. Now they are getting screwed by both the CFTC (US) & OSC (Canada).
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