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  • #25,741
  • Nov 8, 2023 1:49pm Nov 8, 2023 1:49pm
Quoting TrAndy1
Hi, Apex Trader Funding Fall Flash Sale! 71% OFF Evaluations and Half Priced Resets! Now Until November 28th! Half Priced Resets--- No Coupon Needed!! Price at checkout has been reduced! Also—for any size Newly purchased Evaluation Accounts: 71% Off First Month and 71% off recurring months! (Coupon Code Required) Something for everyone! Reset Evaluation Accounts you have or discounts on new ones if needed! Applies to new Evaluation Account purchased now until Nov 28th with a coupon code, Does NOT apply to PA, Resets, Data, existing—only to new Evaluations...
this should be their standard discount? so 19% less of our 90% discount.

I think they are always at discount of around 70% if I saw well in youtube

But why to reset an account and not to buy a new eval? isn't it cheaper?
in holiday till end of November
  • #25,742
  • Nov 8, 2023 2:16pm Nov 8, 2023 2:16pm
Quoting Markula
{quote} this doesn't really deserve a response but most people who claim to be futures gurus only trade metals and indices which are highly correlated to the usd. For me, what I like about futures over fx is the idiosyncratic movements of the commodities. The reason why I like agricultural commodities, oil, and nat gas is they move idiosyncratically. This way you can diversify, have multiple positions open without your account blowing up. That is only an advantage if you can predict everything though. If you can only trade indices or fx futures...
Almost all high level traders specialize in 1,2, maybe 3 instruments. Another common trait is a minimal (think 1 or 2 daily) amount of trades. Much easier to manage than tracking multiple instruments accross multiple asset classes and being in and out all day. Persoanlly, I prefer being OUT of the market. The quicker and easier I can accomplish my profit goals, the better.
  • #25,743
  • Nov 8, 2023 2:38pm Nov 8, 2023 2:38pm
Wow is it me or do these platforms just plain suck?
I am humbled to have to ask such a newbie question here for something that comes so easily in MT4.
After watching videos, reading through the help section, etc. I still can not figure out how to close a particular position when there are multiple positions open! Feels ridiculous, what am I missing?
Example: I take a buy position on Nas100Emicro bla blah blah. Then the price moves away from me and I decide to add another NCA Buy position. Next the second position is now in profit but the first is not and I want to close the profitable position while leaving the first one in drawdown. Seems Tradovate has no way to do this? Seriously? Please help.
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  • #25,744
  • Nov 8, 2023 3:02pm Nov 8, 2023 3:02pm
Quoting josh1111
Wow is it me or do these platforms just plain suck? I am humbled to have to ask such a newbie question here for something that comes so easily in MT4. After watching videos, reading through the help section, etc. I still can not figure out how to close a particular position when there are multiple positions open! Feels ridiculous, what am I missing? Example: I take a buy position on Nas100Emicro bla blah blah. Then the price moves away from me and I decide to add another NCA Buy position. Next the second position is now in profit but the first is...
It’s not that they suck, it’s just completely different animal. You can close partials by executing in the opposite direction. If you have 10 contract buy and want to close half, you sell 5 contracts.

You also can’t “add” additional positions. What happens is price is then adjusted and averaged in. You only see one entry line, not a bunch like in MT4.

There is also no hedging in futures. It’s one direction only.

Has nothing to do with the platforms. It’s just how futures market works.
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  • #25,745
  • Nov 8, 2023 3:12pm Nov 8, 2023 3:12pm
Quoting josh1111
Wow is it me or do these platforms just plain suck? I am humbled to have to ask such a newbie question here for something that comes so easily in MT4. After watching videos, reading through the help section, etc. I still can not figure out how to close a particular position when there are multiple positions open! Feels ridiculous, what am I missing? Example: I take a buy position on Nas100Emicro bla blah blah. Then the price moves away from me and I decide to add another NCA Buy position. Next the second position is now in profit but the first is...
Yes, when you are accustomed to MT4 or MT5...these futures platforms suck. I am going in and out of orders half-assed, barely knowing what I am doing. I am setting SL and TP by creating new stop and limit orders. Of course, I understand that is exactly what SL and TP is, but man, it is much simpler in MT4/5. It's why I love my amp account.....MT5 is what I use there. Closing a partial on the fly requires an opposite position......I get it, it's a REAL market....just hard to adapt when you are used to much simpler ways.
  • #25,746
  • Nov 8, 2023 4:06pm Nov 8, 2023 4:06pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Almost all high level traders specialize in 1,2, maybe 3 instruments. Another common trait is a minimal (think 1 or 2 daily) amount of trades. Much easier to manage than tracking multiple instruments accross multiple asset classes and being in and out all day. Persoanlly, I prefer being OUT of the market. The quicker and easier I can accomplish my profit goals, the better.
I know that's fine. for me, since I mastered all of them, I like many small positions.
  • #25,747
  • Nov 8, 2023 4:20pm Nov 8, 2023 4:20pm
Quoting Contessa22
Apex just launched their official discord channel: discord.gg/apextraderfunding
time to buy CME stocks, is getting hot CME ha ha.

Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} It’s not that they suck, it’s just completely different animal. You can close partials by executing in the opposite direction. If you have 10 contract buy and want to close half, you sell 5 contracts. You also can’t “add” additional positions. What happens is price is then adjusted and averaged in. You only see one entry line, not a bunch like in MT4. There is also no hedging in futures. It’s one direction only. Has nothing to do with the platforms. It’s just how futures market works.
I wouldn't say "futures markets" but platforms available for futures. They could add that feature, in fact, in Crypto exchanges you can do it, you can choose to have just one position or several, similar to MT5 MT4.

Agree?

Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Yes, when you are accustomed to MT4 or MT5...these futures platforms suck. I am going in and out of orders half-assed, barely knowing what I am doing. I am setting SL and TP by creating new stop and limit orders. Of course, I understand that is exactly what SL and TP is, but man, it is much simpler in MT4/5. It's why I love my amp account.....MT5 is what I use there. Closing a partial on the fly requires an opposite position......I get it, it's a REAL market....just hard to adapt when you are used to much simpler ways.
I think you just need time and you get used it. Do you believe that I installed MT5 again today, and I could manage it anymore ha ha, and I went back to my lovely Tradovate. BTW, test Tradovate, may be you will love it. You can also have footprint charts (order flow) and many add ons for free. I love it.
in holiday till end of November
  • #25,748
  • Nov 8, 2023 4:26pm Nov 8, 2023 4:26pm
Quoting navk
Any news about MFF case ?
anyone?
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  • #25,749
  • Nov 8, 2023 5:00pm Nov 8, 2023 5:00pm
Update time. My emotions and appetite for risk got the best of me and I blew 2 x 200k accounts
1. My Flash Funding - Funded account ()
2. Blue guardian - Phase 2 ()
3. SKilledFundedTrader - Passed phase 2 need to complete 5 days.

Thats the ratio for me last time bought 5 x 100k and got funded account.
This time bought 3 x200k and able to keep 1 funded.

Learnt valuable lesson to use smaller lots on funded account. Lets see if i can get to a payout. Any money made through it will be used to purchase more challenges Btw payout date is end of the month so gonna target 2.5% to 3% gain on the account and then stop trading.
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  • #25,750
  • Nov 8, 2023 5:39pm Nov 8, 2023 5:39pm
Quoting forexbali
{quote} time to buy CME stocks, is getting hot CME ha ha. {quote} I wouldn't say "futures markets" but platforms available for futures. They could add that feature, in fact, in Crypto exchanges you can do it, you can choose to have just one position or several, similar to MT5 MT4. Agree? {quote} I think you just need time and you get used it. Do you believe that I installed MT5 again today, and I could manage it anymore ha ha, and I went back to my lovely Tradovate. BTW, test Tradovate, may be you will love it. You can also have footprint charts...
Has nothing to do with "platforms." CME wont allow orders to be filled that way. No matter the futures platform, they all have to adhere how orders are to be executed set by CME.

The contract specs under each instrument includes what is called "EXCHANGE RULEBOOK" which dictates how orders are to be handled. Some of these rules go back before we or our parents were even born.

E-mini Dow Jones Industrial Average Index Futures Contract Specs - CME Group
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  • #25,751
  • Edited 8:15pm Nov 8, 2023 7:10pm | Edited 8:15pm
Wow the rabbit hole goes deeper and darker the more I explore these platforms.
Found this video that shows how to connect Tradovate to Tradingview which gives a better interface to analyze charts and trade from directly.
Next problem is how to perform Group/Copy trades with what they call Brackets(i.e.SL/TP)
Really can't believe 20 year old MT4 is so superior to all of this Futures Platform crap. Future needs to get with the Future part and get a little more futuristic.
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  • #25,752
  • Nov 8, 2023 7:51pm Nov 8, 2023 7:51pm
Quoting josh1111
Wow the rabbit hole goes deeper and darker the more explore these platforms. Found this video that shows how to connect Tradovate to Tradingview which gives a better interface to analyze charts and trade from directly. Next problem is how to perform Group/Copy trades with what they call Brackets(i.e.SL/TP) Really can't believe 20 year old MT4 is so superior to all of this Futures Platform crap. Future needs to get with the Future part and get a little more futuristic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCDE1c0ODDU
Well for the longest time, majority of futures were traded via the DOM ladder. Charting was never widely utilized.

Tradovate group copy wont work with Tradingview. You can still connect to it and follow orders placed but orders will need to originate within Tradovate.

And you're gonna love this. Bracket orders wont work in group copy. You'll have to place your SL on the DOM.
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  • #25,753
  • Nov 8, 2023 7:53pm Nov 8, 2023 7:53pm
Many FX chaps are going to get hurt...

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  • #25,754
  • Edited 8:35pm Nov 8, 2023 8:02pm | Edited 8:35pm
If you're serious about trading futures, theres a FB group that is no BS. Futures Day Traders | Facebook

There's an old school chap on there by the name of Jim Gasson. He posts regularly with potential price targets and commentary and has a exceptional track record.

There is also a really good futures only forum thats a great resource as well. https://nexusfi.com
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  • #25,755
  • Nov 8, 2023 8:45pm Nov 8, 2023 8:45pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
Many FX chaps are going to get hurt... {image}
Oh boy!!!!! Yes, still goes back to the same old thing.....folks get involved with things they know nothing about and then blame everyone and everything when they fail.
  • #25,756
  • Nov 8, 2023 8:53pm Nov 8, 2023 8:53pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Oh boy!!!!! Yes, still goes back to the same old thing.....folks get involved with things they know nothing about and then blame everyone and everything when they fail.
Gonna be a great influx of $$$ for APEX with the FX degen’s piling in.
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  • #25,757
  • Nov 8, 2023 9:00pm Nov 8, 2023 9:00pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
Many FX chaps are going to get hurt... {image}
Bro. Comedy show is about to begin. Prepares my popcorn.
  • #25,758
  • Nov 8, 2023 9:06pm Nov 8, 2023 9:06pm
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Gonna be a great influx of $$$ for APEX with the FX degen’s piling in.
This may actually be better than "why did my GBPNZD trade get closed at 5 pm?....I had a 10 pip stop"
Now we have folks looking for instruments to trade that aren't even there.
  • #25,759
  • Nov 8, 2023 9:09pm Nov 8, 2023 9:09pm
Quoting youngD
Topstep done, paid 50$ for 50k evaluation. Now i paid 149$ activation fee. Withdrawal up to 50% of profits when you reach minimum 5 winning days of 200 $ each. So basically need to earn 1000 or more and i can withdraw half of profits. After 30 winning days u are able withdraw 100% of profits. Now interesting fact, no rules at funded account. No consistency , no news trading rule etc. {image} {image}
Be careful, I saw a video from a trader that during the 50% payout period once you withdraw the trailing immediately moves to initial balance.
  • #25,760
  • Nov 8, 2023 9:10pm Nov 8, 2023 9:10pm
Quoting josh1111
{quote} I agree, my first impressions of Ninjatrader and Tradovate are not good. I am researching a software bridge to use MT4 to control the futures accounts.
I thought you guys were joking when you said MT4 the 2 decade old technology seems better to you compared to the new modern trading platforms... Guess not. Lets just neglect the fact that NT8, Tradovate etc already got all functionalities built into them which one normally needs tons of plugins for using Metatrader versions.
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