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  • #25,641
  • Nov 6, 2023 11:20pm Nov 6, 2023 11:20pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Several years ago I had access to Rithmic/Ninja. I can't remember why or what I had it for. It may have been for TopStep but who knows? All I know is it gave me a massive migraine. Anyway, I just purchased one 100K FULL account with Tradovate. Just trying to get signed in and get the disclosures signed gave me a migraine. Needless to say, I will be spending a lot of time watching and reading tutorials this week to get up to speed in the futures game. But for now, it's bedtime for Bonzo.
Agree ninja trader makes me feel like windows 95 or Mario video game....so outdated platform. MT4 is 100000000000 times better than any futures platform.
  • #25,642
  • Nov 6, 2023 11:58pm Nov 6, 2023 11:58pm
Quoting TrAndy1
So the fight with the hearing is tomorrow for MFF ?
Yep, let's see what comes from that
  • #25,643
  • Edited 12:49am Nov 7, 2023 12:10am | Edited 12:49am
Quoting Expo33
{quote} Several years ago I had access to Rithmic/Ninja. I can't remember why or what I had it for. It may have been for TopStep but who knows? All I know is it gave me a massive migraine. Anyway, I just purchased one 100K FULL account with Tradovate. Just trying to get signed in and get the disclosures signed gave me a migraine. Needless to say, I will be spending a lot of time watching and reading tutorials this week to get up to speed in the futures game. But for now, it's bedtime for Bonzo.
Eheheh, I laughed a bit when reading all their massive FAQs, setup instructions, etc.

At some point I was feeling like someone from Apex was going to come out of my screen and beat me with a baseball bat..... all those warnings in RED or in font size 25 bold with 4 exclamations marks are funny.
  • #25,644
  • Nov 7, 2023 1:31am Nov 7, 2023 1:31am
How do you manage risk when you trading on those futures platforms? I mean there is no trade assistant available where you can set your risk 1% and the lot size is calculated automatically. All has to be done manually, right?
  • #25,645
  • Nov 7, 2023 2:09am Nov 7, 2023 2:09am
Quoting forexbali
{quote} yes I have seen youtuber saying almost the same, after ninja bought tradovate, they switched to sierra, but I have heard some issue I don't remember what about some login not workting with rithmic or some futures prop, but I forgot. I will test Sierra Chart one day, I find Ninja trader obsolete, I don't like they have not done a restyle in so long time and I feel too old software. I have seen them when they came on the market in '00s all of them, I never liked sierra, but now I'm more flexible and open mind to everything.
In this field one must be open minded for sure. As for Ninjatrader one thing I never understood about them and their excuses for not showing degrees in angles with trendlines even that feature request is like decade old. Even CTrader got that feature. So can understand why people get bothered with them.
  • #25,646
  • Nov 7, 2023 3:57am Nov 7, 2023 3:57am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} What does Korbs say? FX is for kiddies and futures for adults. Not that I agree totally but futures is better in a sense that it is real and not a video game. The video game can still be used to make money but bucket shops can't afford to have too many winners. This whole space of late has revealed some hard reality and well, futures here I come baby. *** non-video endorsement alert! *** https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp7t97nar_8
Are you suggesting to take anything this guy says seriously?
https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/commu...tradacc.80114/
He is selling 10k courses on volume profile, lmao.
  • #25,647
  • Nov 7, 2023 4:25am Nov 7, 2023 4:25am
Quoting noox
{quote} Are you suggesting to take anything this guy says seriously? https://www.forexpeacearmy.com/commu...tradacc.80114/ He is selling 10k courses on volume profile, lmao.
Please read post before assuming I'm suggesting anything.
***Non-video endorsement alert!***
The point is he doesn't like forex. That's all. If he sells courses that's for him and you to discuss. Don't bring me into it. I do not endorse anything course sellers sell particularly for non-readers.
***Non-video endorsement alert!***
  • #25,648
  • Nov 7, 2023 5:20am Nov 7, 2023 5:20am
Quoting FocusWinReal
{quote} Please read post before assuming I'm suggesting anything. ***Non-video endorsement alert!*** The point is he doesn't like forex. That's all. If he sells courses that's for him and you to discuss. Don't bring me into it. I do not endorse anything course sellers sell particularly for non-readers. ***Non-video endorsement alert!***
spamming shit videos from known scammers is an endorsement in itself however loudly you are yelling that it's not
  • #25,649
  • Nov 7, 2023 6:21am Nov 7, 2023 6:21am
Quoting noox
{quote} spamming shit videos from known scammers is an endorsement in itself however loudly you are yelling that it's not
Its almost as if forex is a magnet for scammers, be it individuals or prop firms. Makes me feel silly that I even bothered with forex tbh. Trying to sell volume profile education to futures traders. Im guessing it comes from a forex background or forex traders curious about Volume Profile and new to futures regarding his target audience. The innocent indian boy traded some forex and had it tough doing so. Then he sees the chance with the opportunity with those expensive packages.
  • #25,650
  • Nov 7, 2023 6:30am Nov 7, 2023 6:30am
The entry barrier is maybe lower on Forex than on Futures. But that does not mean one asset class is better or worse than the other. Forex is more liquid and 24/5 to be traded possible. You do not have that much liquidity with Index Futures. Also for the currency futures I needed to trade at Apex I can say it is much more expensive in terms of spreads and replicating minors with 2 majors resulting in paying double the spread and then again I need to close out every day and then reenter 1 hour later. All in all it is much more cost involved. Only if you concentrate on Index Futures and do a lot of trades then it is better to do Futures props. Otherwise the trailing DD makes it much harder to pass anyway. Do not say one is better than the other. These asset classes are totally different, who wants to compare Apple with Oranges ?
  • #25,651
  • Nov 7, 2023 6:46am Nov 7, 2023 6:46am
TFT won't refund those who have purchased the challenge more than 60 days from Vietnam and Malaysia, even though they didn't breach any rules. This statement is claimed on their website. If this is not a scam I don't know what is, what is the point of the unlimited time trading challenge?, the traders who took their time to pass the challenge are the people who took the most loss in this case, doesn't this means they encourage people to gambling pass the challenge as fast as possible? But why 60 days tho? Doesn't this make any sense? Everyone should get a refund equally. This literally ROBBING in the daylight. Don't know what to say, I think they're way worse than MFF. People who still trading with them be aware y'all

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-UkJLtW...name=4096x4096
*EDIT: it's claim in the email not website
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-Uii8Mb...g&name=900x900
  • #25,652
  • Nov 7, 2023 6:48am Nov 7, 2023 6:48am
Also the trailing DD on Future props let you to do overtrading by looking more on intraday scalps. But after the facts of being a consistent profitable trader we all know that intraday trading Indices/Futures is more difficult than to do swing trading on Forex. But of course overall Forex trading is harder than Indices trading. So it is certainly very on its own of everyone to say what is more difficult or easier to pass. There is no general rule to say Future props are easier to get payouts from than FX'.
  • #25,653
  • Nov 7, 2023 6:50am Nov 7, 2023 6:50am
Quoting longcanlun12
TFT won't refund those who have purchased the challenge more than 60 days from Vietnam and Malaysia, even though they didn't breach any rules. This statement is claimed on their website. If this is not a scam I don't know what is, what is the point of the unlimited time trading challenge?, the traders who took their time to pass the challenge are the people who took the most loss in this case, doesn't this means they encourage people to gambling pass the challenge as fast as possible? But why 60 days tho? Doesn't this make any sense? Everyone should...
Agree, this is not okay what TFT is doing. Today is the MFF hearing, so the big fight with the CFTC. So this could be challenging in the next time for all props, let's see...
  • #25,654
  • Nov 7, 2023 6:59am Nov 7, 2023 6:59am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Agree, this is not okay what TFT is doing. Today is the MFF hearing, so the big fight with the CFTC. So this could be challenging in the next time for all props, let's see...
Dude, this is by far one of the most ridiculous things I ever heard in the entire history of the prob firm industry, literally a few days ago, TFT claimed on their Twitter that their revenue was equal to UFC's revenue. I mean seriously they compared themself to a f*cking UFC?? such a delusional bastard if you don't wanna use the word scammer
  • #25,655
  • Nov 7, 2023 7:06am Nov 7, 2023 7:06am
Quoting longcanlun12
{quote} Dude, this is by far one of the most ridiculous things I ever heard in the entire history of the prob firm industry, literally a few days ago, TFT claimed on their Twitter that their revenue was equal to UFC's revenue. I mean seriously they compared themself to a f*cking UFC?? such a delusional bastard if you don't wanna use the word scammer
If I were you I would still claim my full refund with a dispute over the credit card where you paid your challenge fees. Good chances that you win I would say. Because TFT cannot change their Terms after the fact over the past. That is not within international laws good standing practice. So you must get your full refund. Of course there is some paperwork for you to be involved here, but it should be worth to do all the efforts. No company can do what it wants on their Terms. Both parties need to agree too, so if you do not not agree then the old terms are still valid. So all in all this must be in easy case to win. All people must get their full refunds with TFT. Point.
  • #25,656
  • Nov 7, 2023 7:50am Nov 7, 2023 7:50am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} If I were you I would still claim my full refund with a dispute over the credit card where you paid your challenge fees. Good chances that you win I would say. Because TFT cannot change their Terms after the fact over the past. That is not within international laws good standing practice. So you must get your full refund. Of course there is some paperwork for you to be involved here, but it should be worth to do all the efforts. No company can do what it wants on their Terms. Both parties need to agree too, so if you do not not agree then...
Thank you for the advice. Fortunately tho, I'm not a victim here, those a just some pictures from other traders posted on their twit accounts. I never ever want any relation with TFT or other "twit CEO" firms in the first place.
  • #25,657
  • Nov 7, 2023 7:57am Nov 7, 2023 7:57am
Quoting longcanlun12
{quote} Thank you for the advice. Fortunately tho, I'm not a victim here, those a just some pictures from other traders posted on their twit accounts. I never ever want any relation with TFT or other "twit CEO" firms in the first place.
Did something recent go down with TFT? I haven't been following along with most of these FX Prop firms, outside of what's being mentioned here.
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  • #25,658
  • Nov 7, 2023 8:22am Nov 7, 2023 8:22am
Quoting Cryptosurf
{quote} Did something recent go down with TFT? I haven't been following along with most of these FX Prop firms, outside of what's being mentioned here.
Okay, so a couple of days ago, TFT announced that they banned all traders from Vietnam and Malaysia without mentioning at least 1 reason. It's okay, there's nothing new they are not the only ones who doing this, and that is their business decision as long as they pay back all the challenge fees for all traders from these two countries every is all good, and they should do that. But a couple of days after they sent an email that they would only pay for people who bought the challenge in the last 60 days only, people who bought before 60 days would not get a single penny no matter what, one of the traders that I know lost $1k4 for 400k challenge that he hasn't finished and not breach any rules. Tell me this is not a robbing or what? $1k4 for the developed countries' citizens may not be much but for developing countries like Vietnam and Malaysia that is a big sum of money. This is IMMORAL
This is their announcement: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-CCPHsX...jpg&name=large
  • #25,659
  • Nov 7, 2023 8:28am Nov 7, 2023 8:28am
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  • #25,660
  • Nov 7, 2023 8:29am Nov 7, 2023 8:29am
Quoting longcanlun12
{quote} Okay, so a couple of days ago, TFT announced that they banned all traders from Vietnam and Malaysia without mentioning at least 1 reason. It's okay, there's nothing new they are not the only ones who doing this, and that is their business decision as long as they pay back all the challenge fees for all traders from these two countries every is all good, and they should do that. But a couple of days after they sent an email that they would only pay for people who bought the challenge in the last 60 days only, people who bought before 60 days...
Yeah that’s shady as hell imo.
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