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  • #24,601
  • Oct 24, 2023 11:38am Oct 24, 2023 11:38am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Exactly what I was assuming with Bespoke. Exactly that. And all the hard work of obtaining the 800k funded accounts are gone. What do I get for this effort ? Nada.
experience!

you could see in theory that the end would be like this, but so you learned in try in real/practise what could never work in theory.
and learning by practise is burning deeper and you learn more about and never forget. by theory not many can learn, gets more easy after many years or decades trading (because anything you have seen over time is same most of time repeating) and you get older.
  • #24,602
  • Oct 24, 2023 11:45am Oct 24, 2023 11:45am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Anyone knows other props doing this the same like Bespoke ? Just to be warned. Some do banning traders for account management (it maybe just different IPs used) that is even worse, because then you do not get your last payout. This happens I am reading at MFFX, FE and TFF frequently. Any other props ?
IMO, the only props to use if you expect to be treated fairly and PAID are FTMO and the 5%ers. I am funded with FTMO, doing a challenge with the 5%ers. I still have funded accounts with TFTP and TFF...........TFTP I am all but writing off as I cannot see any way of survival for them.
  • #24,603
  • Oct 24, 2023 11:47am Oct 24, 2023 11:47am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} You cannot complain, it is the real market. If I were you I would go with the SP500 emini SP500 Futures because they are broad, you should get much less slipp.
12 points on a limit order? As I mentioned, price never even struck that target until way after my trade closed. I mean 100 points is 100 points, but I never got hit like that with amp.
  • #24,604
  • Oct 24, 2023 11:52am Oct 24, 2023 11:52am
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} IMO, the only props to use if you expect to be treated fairly and PAID are FTMO and the 5%ers. I am funded with FTMO, doing a challenge with the 5%ers. I still have funded accounts with TFTP and TFF...........TFTP I am all but writing off as I cannot see any way of survival for them.
I also think ACG is very fine. And FXIFY should also be worth a try. But then my latin has ended.
  • #24,605
  • Oct 24, 2023 11:55am Oct 24, 2023 11:55am
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Anyone knows other props doing this the same like Bespoke ? Just to be warned. Some do banning traders for account management (it maybe just different IPs used) that is even worse, because then you do not get your last payout. This happens I am reading at MFFX, FE and TFF frequently, correct ? Any other props ?
TFF never heard about IP stuff.
MFFx, Blue Guardian and Funded Next there were plenty of stories.

FE is funded engineer ? I didn't know they were already doing that.

Anyway, I guess that they don't have the sophistication that MFF had to manage risk so all firms need to get rid of profitable traders.
  • #24,606
  • Oct 24, 2023 12:01pm Oct 24, 2023 12:01pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} TFF never heard about IP stuff. MFFx, Blue Guardian and Funded Next there were plenty of stories. FE is funded engineer ? I didn't know they were already doing that. Anyway, I guess that they don't have the sophistication that MFF had to manage risk so all firms need to get rid of profitable traders.
TFF especially when you do higher payouts, like 5 digits, they need an excuse to not payout you and also for need a reason for banning in one go.
  • #24,607
  • Oct 24, 2023 12:08pm Oct 24, 2023 12:08pm
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  • #24,608
  • Oct 24, 2023 12:08pm Oct 24, 2023 12:08pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} TFF never heard about IP stuff. MFFx, Blue Guardian and Funded Next there were plenty of stories. FE is funded engineer ? I didn't know they were already doing that. Anyway, I guess that they don't have the sophistication that MFF had to manage risk so all firms need to get rid of profitable traders.
Ironic, isn't it........1 of the 2 firms that WERE ACTUALLY PAYING profitable traders gets shut down......and everyone (besides most of us here) is yelling, "Oh Thank God! What a scam, thankfully they got caught" Meanwhile, all of the firms DENYING PAYOUTS continue to carry on.....Yep, the CFTC sure knows what they are doing....NOT
  • #24,609
  • Oct 24, 2023 12:21pm Oct 24, 2023 12:21pm
Quoting Capablanca
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If they need or are "forced" to write romans for an excuse why they are banning a good profitable trader...that tells us they need to hide beyond their real face..too bad.
  • #24,610
  • Oct 24, 2023 12:23pm Oct 24, 2023 12:23pm
Quoting Capablanca
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Do you know how much this trader made on all payouts as sum together before he got banned ? Just to get an impression if it is that >50k in payouts formula for them.
  • #24,611
  • Oct 24, 2023 12:31pm Oct 24, 2023 12:31pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Do you know how much this trader made on all payouts as sum together before he got banned ? Just to get an impression if it is that >50k in payouts formula for them.
I have no ideia
  • #24,612
  • Oct 24, 2023 12:32pm Oct 24, 2023 12:32pm
Quoting Capablanca
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lol...."we have determined your trading style"....what style is that? oh, profitable....no profitable strategies allowed....this space is a complete fucking joke now. It truly could have worked, just way too many bad actors got involved....just like anything I guess.
  • #24,613
  • Edited 2:05pm Oct 24, 2023 12:53pm | Edited 2:05pm
Any experience good or bad about Funded Engineer ? Their trustpilot makes them suspicious. A score of 4.8 really that good ?
  • #24,614
  • Oct 24, 2023 1:10pm Oct 24, 2023 1:10pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} Ironic, isn't it........1 of the 2 firms that WERE ACTUALLY PAYING profitable traders gets shut down......and everyone (besides most of us here) is yelling, "Oh Thank God! What a scam, thankfully they got caught" Meanwhile, all of the firms DENYING PAYOUTS continue to carry on.....Yep, the CFTC sure knows what they are doing....NOT
IMHO, a lot of people didn't like them just because they actually pay a lot of traders... It's called jealousy. When you cannot have it, you don't want others to have it.
Don't give up on your dreams. Keep sleeping.
  • #24,615
  • Oct 24, 2023 1:16pm Oct 24, 2023 1:16pm
Looks like FTMO is rn the only sensible one rn judging by the recent fuckery with 5ers. I can only say that ACG is running really smooth but I am not at pay out stage yet and don't see anything negative in their discord.
  • #24,616
  • Oct 24, 2023 2:17pm Oct 24, 2023 2:17pm
Quoting pipmaster77
{quote} 12 points on a limit order? As I mentioned, price never even struck that target until way after my trade closed. I mean 100 points is 100 points, but I never got hit like that with amp.
Was there an abnormal 1m bar spike? Typically both mini & micro have around a max of 10 contracts 2 levels deep. If someone else tried to fill 30+ in 1 click @ your same price level that kind of slippage could happen.

If you had the L2 order book open @ the same time, you should have the tick data for the time period. You can search the time of sales around your fill time to see exactly what may have happened.
  • #24,617
  • Oct 24, 2023 2:23pm Oct 24, 2023 2:23pm
Quoting Nic2020
{quote} 5ers has own dashboard?
yes they do


stay away from giveaway prop firms
MY OPINION NOT FINANCIAL ADVISE
  • #24,618
  • Oct 24, 2023 2:24pm Oct 24, 2023 2:24pm
Do you have the same kind of strange (?) feelings ? I made about €100k this year from my hedge fund account and prop firms, but I still feel poor. I spent around 25k and 45k is for taxes reserved, so I saved now 30k. Maybe it is the normal quite low spending here in Germany, why I do not feel overwhelming. Also a 30k deposit account looks not too great. Still not much money. Is there anything I am wrongfeeling about here ? Opinions ? My goal was to make 200k this year with my current 800k funded account which I suddenly lost at Bespoke, unexpected. I thought I could make another 100k on the next 4 payouts until this year end, but no, they kicked me off. Now I have only made 100k so far. Somehow I cannot describe it fully, it feels bit bad. I do not know why. Hmm...
  • #24,619
  • Oct 24, 2023 2:27pm Oct 24, 2023 2:27pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} I also think ACG is very fine. And FXIFY should also be worth a try. But then my latin has ended.
I was seriously considering FXIFY but having to resort to social media begging to get paid is not very appealing. I also trade indices, so being limited to 10:1 was problematic.
  • #24,620
  • Oct 24, 2023 2:28pm Oct 24, 2023 2:28pm
Quoting CableJ
{quote} I was seriously considering FXIFY but having to resort to social media begging to get paid is not very appealing. I also trade indices, so being limited to 10:1 was problematic.
Okay I understand. And what do you think about Funded Engineer ?
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