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  • #23,861
  • Oct 8, 2023 2:00pm Oct 8, 2023 2:00pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Before Prince said he was pursuing legal action. Why would he be doing this if he received it ? It's clear that he did not receive it. https://twitter.com/Princekrsangwan/...88324502987042 And what Kaler said in that tweet is that he has to issue this payout. That's afterwards. I think he realized that this took proportions that he didn't expect. How many Princes are out there without access to so much exposition to force Kaler to pay, like in this case ?
He cheated and broke the terms and conditions. Point. If you do not believe anything from Bespoke I cannot help you. I usually do not believe the trader because he is the bad guy who wants to cheat, based on my here made experiences following the discussions and complaints thereafter. As I know, Bespoke is paying out over 1 million every month if not more. They have no such problems. But there are always naysayers here. I believe Bespoke, because I know them after following them very, very closely for some months now. That is my impression and my opinion. Please stop now. I do not want to comment this further nor I want to defend here anymore. Believe it or not. It is up to you and everyone. I do not have problems with Bespoke. I hate (!!) defending Bespoke again and again as I do not want to be confrontated with uncomfortable situations about them, really. I always follow all discussions on Discord. I have my experience with them and they are fine (for me). Please stop.
  • #23,862
  • Oct 8, 2023 2:08pm Oct 8, 2023 2:08pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} Because you had no funded account with them waiting on a payout.
It is irrelevant whether I had a funded account or not. They tried the very same dirty tricks on me as they use on funded traders. Their behavior was the same wrong as in other cases when other people complain about fabricated evidence against them.

Quoting TrAndy1
{quote}They just did not like your trading style
Maybe. So why didn't they tell me straight? Why did they try lying that I breached their rules when later they admitted I didn't breach any? And they lied several times. When I proved them lying they tried another lie and so on.

Quoting TrAndy1
{quote}and you got your refund too.
yes, I got the basic fee refund. But they advertised 150% (or so) which they didn't give me. They also advertised bonus for passing phases 1 and 2 which they never gave me either.

Quoting TrAndy1
{quote}That is not a total fraud for me.
No. It's definitely not a total fraud. Next

Quoting TrAndy1
{quote}I also do not know how you traded and what confused. So I cannot go deeper in details.
I can only tell that I placed several subsequent buy orders on a raising market, all of the same size, one after another, always when the previous one was in profit. - I was adding to the winning position.
First they called it martingale (idiots). Then they called it grid (noobs). Eventually, after I tried everything to explain I didn't cheat or violate anything, after they blocked me on their Discord (cowards), I was left with no other option then to make my case public. Even then they first tried to ridicule me publicly (bastards) and kept telling I was a cheater (liars).
Only when I resisted and published all my evidence incl. trading logs they had to finally admit I didn't breach anything (losers)

Quoting TrAndy1
{quote}But yes they offered you to trade on your funded account and then you denied a large account. I do not understand this. Sorry. This is free money. If you ever made it to a payout on funded, why not take this free money then with you ?
Dignity?

Quoting TrAndy1
{quote}We already had this discussion and I do not want to repeat the whole. Only if you could provide all of your trades in details I would look again. Did you save your trades report on Metatrader with Bespoke ? Could you then insert this attachment in another post, so we all can have a look on this ?
No I didn't save the log. There's no reason. The case is closed for me. I don't need anyone to review if I'm right or wrong. I know I'm right. And I definitely don't want any "free money" from them. My only intention was always to warn others against Bespoke and their dirty practices.
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #23,863
  • Oct 8, 2023 2:14pm Oct 8, 2023 2:14pm
Quoting Vitore
{quote} It is irrelevant whether I had a funded account or not. They tried the very same dirty tricks on me as they use on funded traders. Their behavior was the same wrong as in other cases when other people complain about fabricated evidence against them. {quote} Maybe. So why didn't they tell me straight? Why did they try lying that I breached their rules when later they admitted I didn't breach any? And they lied several times. When I proved them lying they tried another lie and so on. {quote} yes, I got the basic fee refund. But they advertised...
I hope you are happy now.
  • #23,864
  • Oct 8, 2023 2:21pm Oct 8, 2023 2:21pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote}I hate (!!) defending Bespoke again and again as I do not want to be confrontated with uncomfortable situations about them, really. I always follow all discussions on Discord. I have my experience with them and they are fine (for me). Please stop.
Then why do you keep defending them? Why do you keep saying that all traders who ever complained are cheaters? Just stop defending Bespoke if you hate doing so for heaven's sake!
Money is made by sitting, not trading
  • #23,865
  • Oct 8, 2023 2:34pm Oct 8, 2023 2:34pm
hes paid now.

Bespoke once again after twitter attacks them, pay like they should have.
  • #23,866
  • Oct 8, 2023 2:39pm Oct 8, 2023 2:39pm
Quoting Vitore
Then why do you keep defending them? Why do you keep saying that all traders who ever complained are cheaters? Just stop defending Bespoke if you hate doing so for heaven's sake!
-It can be difficult when someone has such strong beliefs about something; they often have trouble dealing with anyone that does not agree with them. This is true for politics and religion, especially. Oftentimes, it is better to just respect each other's differences and beliefs, and just let things be.

Maintaining a neutral/understanding position, keeping silent, staying objective, controlling your emotions etc. can require a lot of discipline. Fortunately, we have many opportunities, over many lifetimes, to learn these lessons.

It's interesting, because as traders, these are things that we should understand very well.
  • #23,867
  • Oct 8, 2023 3:36pm Oct 8, 2023 3:36pm
Quoting Vitore
{quote} Then why do you keep defending them? Why do you keep saying that all traders who ever complained are cheaters? Just stop defending Bespoke if you hate doing so for heaven's sake!
because he's a zealot first, and a trader second.
  • #23,868
  • Oct 8, 2023 5:18pm Oct 8, 2023 5:18pm
Quoting TrAndy1
{quote} He cheated and broke the terms and conditions. Point. If you do not believe anything from Bespoke I cannot help you. I usually do not believe the trader because he is the bad guy who wants to cheat, based on my here made experiences following the discussions and complaints thereafter. As I know, Bespoke is paying out over 1 million every month if not more. They have no such problems. But there are always naysayers here. I believe Bespoke, because I know them after following them very, very closely for some months now. That is my impression...
If he cheated why is Kaler paying him ?
  • #23,869
  • Oct 8, 2023 5:25pm Oct 8, 2023 5:25pm
Quoting Vitore
{quote} It is irrelevant whether I had a funded account or not. They tried the very same dirty tricks on me as they use on funded traders. Their behavior was the same wrong as in other cases when other people complain about fabricated evidence against them. {quote} Maybe. So why didn't they tell me straight? Why did they try lying that I breached their rules when later they admitted I didn't breach any? And they lied several times. When I proved them lying they tried another lie and so on. {quote} yes, I got the basic fee refund. But they advertised...
It's their modus operandis.

They know that only a very small % make it public. And usually their army of supporters is enough to discredit them.

So:
1. They deny people
2. They block people and don't reply
3. They try to discredit people
4. They finally admit their mistake (most of the people already gave up and doesn't get to this phase), which means the traders was right since the beginning.

This guy was a month until Kaler decided to pay him and admit they did a mistake. And that's because this achieve enormous proportions in social media and Kaler realized that their fans were not able to hide the case.

This happens over and over again.
  • #23,870
  • Oct 8, 2023 6:00pm Oct 8, 2023 6:00pm
Quoting Artcool
I don't understand how you guys can take an unknown man's side against a business, without knowing if he is lying or not.
-It is always best to remain objective and to consider all possibilities. Asking questions is a good practice.

Unfortunately, it is easy to become biased, either because we see so many firms doing dirty things to try to trip up traders and/or deny payouts, or, because we see so many traders doing dirty things to try to cheat and/or lie about what they are really doing etc..
  • #23,871
  • Oct 8, 2023 6:47pm Oct 8, 2023 6:47pm
Does anyone using funded engineer?
I'm gonna payout soon
Share experience about payout please thanks folks ,
  • #23,872
  • Oct 8, 2023 6:55pm Oct 8, 2023 6:55pm
Quoting Expo33
{quote} That's too bad. I'm a few dollars away from passing an FXIFY One-Step. Even if I get through the KYC I guess I'll never get paid anyway.
omg...me too..just need 2% to pass 50k account
  • #23,873
  • Oct 8, 2023 7:15pm Oct 8, 2023 7:15pm
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} It's their modus operandis. They know that only a very small % make it public. And usually their army of supporters is enough to discredit them. So: 1. They deny people 2. They block people and don't reply 3. They try to discredit people 4. They finally admit their mistake (most of the people already gave up and doesn't get to this phase), which means the traders was right since the beginning. This guy was a month until Kaler decided to pay him and admit they did a mistake. And that's because this achieve enormous proportions in social media...
bro any heads up on your fxify withdrawal?
  • #23,874
  • Oct 8, 2023 7:49pm Oct 8, 2023 7:49pm
Quoting voeltoez
{quote} omg...me too..just need 2% to pass 50k account
Yeah, I was at 9.5% on my one-step 15K and finished it up trading Bitcoin yesterday. Got the KYC verification done last night so I'm hoping to get the funded credentials by Tuesday.

Only 5 days of time and $60 invested but it would be nice to extract some money from them.

Good luck!
Pride always comes before destruction.... -Proverbs 16:18
  • #23,875
  • Oct 8, 2023 10:55pm Oct 8, 2023 10:55pm
Good day everyone,
Has anyone tried The Funded Trader? If not, I like you to give them a trial on any of their programs .
You can trade up to $600,000 on a TFT Account. Receive up to 95% of the earnings. Trade demo accounts and get paid for your performance.
You can even take advantage of more additional drawdowns.

https://dashboard.thefundedtraderpro...ge-n/?sl=13142
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  • #23,876
  • Oct 9, 2023 12:30am Oct 9, 2023 12:30am
Quoting KoyaAndy18
{quote} bro any heads up on your fxify withdrawal?
Yesterday was Sunday and before yesterday was Saturday. Backoffice doesn't work during weekends in UK.
  • #23,877
  • Oct 9, 2023 12:31am Oct 9, 2023 12:31am
Quoting kenny4real
Good day everyone, Has anyone tried The Funded Trader? If not, I like you to give them a trial on any of their programs . You can trade up to $600,000 on a TFT Account. Receive up to 95% of the earnings. Trade demo accounts and get paid for your performance. You can even take advantage of more additional drawdowns. https://dashboard.thefundedtraderpro...ge-n/?sl=13142 {image}
Uau, I had never heard about TFT!

I'm rushing to try them immediately.
  • #23,878
  • Oct 9, 2023 1:16am Oct 9, 2023 1:16am
Quoting Capablanca
{quote} Uau, I had never heard about TFT! I'm rushing to try them immediately.
Just like seeing the swag pics posted by Bespoke CEO and now this unbiased post , I just cannot handle this and my actions and I just must cave in and give these kids more stuffs so they can post more cool pics. Oh yea.
  • #23,879
  • Oct 9, 2023 2:15am Oct 9, 2023 2:15am
I have opted out of my idea. But I have passed on the work I have done to someone I really like to do my idea. If they follow through, I will not comment on that company at all this is my vacuum cleaner salesman promise money back guarantee
  • #23,880
  • Oct 9, 2023 2:31am Oct 9, 2023 2:31am
Quoting Takisd
I have opted out of my idea. But I have passed on the work I have done to someone I really like to do my idea. If they follow through, I will not comment on that company at all this is my vacuum cleaner salesman promise money back guarantee
Just say which company it is when it comes to life haha. Hopefully in faq there will be answers for which type of trader they would be looking, because tbh I have no clue what are some characteristics of a trader off of which you can make money when it comes to orderflow.
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